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qc

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B's fan coming in peace..

Paul Gaustad: What did Sabres fans think of him? Were you guys happy to see him go? From my perspective he always seemed like a character guy and a good teammate, and he was really the only guy who stood up to Lucic following the Miller incident. Has a lil scoring touch too. Why does this guy get the door? Boggles my mind that Ruff puts Scott out there when a Gaustad would be 15x as productive.
 

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Generally well liked. 3rd/4th line player, decent amount of grit, above average faceoff guy. Seemed to be a good voice in the room as far as you could tell from interviews, accountable,etc.

Traded because, frankly, getting a 1st for Gaustad is a steal as an upcoming UFA. Unlikely he would have been given the raise he got in Nashville, so they effectively turned him into Girgensons.
 

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Gaustad started to slow down. He wasn't that productive he once used to be. That Gaustad-Lucic "fight" was rather embarrassing for Gaustad.
However, he was a good FO guy - that's what we are currently lacking (amongst other things). But in the end i am not disappointed to lose him, especially as we received a 1st rounder for him. It was time to move on without him.
 

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Great at face-offs and PKing.
Did not actually have a scoring touch.
Didn't hit as much as he used to.
Never was fast, but slowed down after some injuries and with age.

I'd love to have him back over Hecht, for $1-1.75M, but that's about it. He's way overpaid right now.
 

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I'd take him back for faceoffs only and screening goalies. He didn't stand up for his pal Miller when it counted, and he doesn't hit as often as he should. No one on the Sabres does, they're just not minded that way.
 

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B's fan coming in peace..

Paul Gaustad: What did Sabres fans think of him? Were you guys happy to see him go? From my perspective he always seemed like a character guy and a good teammate, and he was really the only guy who stood up to Lucic following the Miller incident. Has a lil scoring touch too. Why does this guy get the door? Boggles my mind that Ruff puts Scott out there when a Gaustad would be 15x as productive.

Gaustad is also like 15x more expensive. He was overpaid when he was here, he's overpaid now. Getting a 1st round pick for a 4th line center on a poor contract in his late 20's was great for us.

He lost a lot of luster in my eyes the night Lucic laid out Miller and 6'4" Paul Gaustad did absolutely nothing the rest of the game. He only fought Lucic in the next game because he had too. Not enough heart and grit for a guy that big in the role he had, for way too much money. He also almost never threw body checks, mind boggling for a 6'4" fourth liner.
 

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B's fan coming in peace..

Paul Gaustad: What did Sabres fans think of him? Were you guys happy to see him go? From my perspective he always seemed like a character guy and a good teammate, and he was really the only guy who stood up to Lucic following the Miller incident. Has a lil scoring touch too. Why does this guy get the door? Boggles my mind that Ruff puts Scott out there when a Gaustad would be 15x as productive.

You're kidding, right? He generally takes the most blame for this because he was on the ice, one of the first ones there, looked right at Lucic and decided he wanted nothing to do with it. I'm pretty sure they made up their minds not to bring him back right after that game. A character guy that was exposed in a moment of crisis as a fraud.
 

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You're kidding, right? He generally takes the most blame for this because he was on the ice, one of the first ones there, looked right at Lucic and decided he wanted nothing to do with it. I'm pretty sure they made up their minds not to bring him back right after that game. A character guy that was exposed in a moment of crisis as a fraud.


My mistake, I didnt think gaustad was on the ice at the time of the actual incident. I just remember hearing him say how disgusted he was with how it was handled. But do you cut the guy slack for one incident? Or are there more examples of him not answering for his teammates? I'm not asking in an argumentative way, I'm just curious. I tend to have an affinity for 6'5 guys that can enforce, get points, create traffic, win face offs, etc.
 

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My mistake, I didnt think gaustad was on the ice at the time of the actual incident. I just remember hearing him say how disgusted he was with how it was handled. But do you cut the guy slack for one incident? Or are there more examples of him not answering for his teammates? I'm not asking in an argumentative way, I'm just curious. I tend to have an affinity for 6'5 guys that can enforce, get points, create traffic, win face offs, etc.

Gaustad was never an 'enforcer'. He had occasional moments that he would bang bodies, and he would get into the occasional fight, but wasn't feared or all that good at it.

When Lucic ran Miller, Gaustad came in late and asked Lucic for an angel food cake recipe. That's it. His 'disgusted' comment was mostly pointed at himself.
 

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I always liked him but I thought he was asked to do too much for a player of his ability. He is the perfect 4th line Center, the kind that playoff teams drool over and that is why Nashville paid a King's ransom for his services.

I didn't like his environmental commercials, he made him seem a lot less tough. ;)
 

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My mistake, I didnt think gaustad was on the ice at the time of the actual incident. I just remember hearing him say how disgusted he was with how it was handled. But do you cut the guy slack for one incident? Or are there more examples of him not answering for his teammates? I'm not asking in an argumentative way, I'm just curious. I tend to have an affinity for 6'5 guys that can enforce, get points, create traffic, win face offs, etc.

I don't know, the whole thing was so bad that I don't think he deserves any slack around here. On another team, you can move past it, a fresh start, but here, he became the face of a team that many always accused of having no heart. Now you can point to that play and Gaustad's response and the heartless claim became a reality and had a face and a moment. Gaustad wasn't the only one, Myers was there too, and if this happened this year with the way things are going for him, you can bet people would be ready to ship him off as well.
 

MayDay

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I liked Gaustad, but I liked even better getting a 1st round pick for him, which is more than he was worth.

He was basically a 3rd/4th line center who was good at faceoffs. That's about it. He was big but not overly physical. He didn't fight very much, and he scored even less. All told, he seemed a good guy, but getting a first rounder for him was a steal.

The way I think about it, Gaustad started out as a 7th round draft pick, and was eventually traded for a 1st rounder. That's a nice return.
 

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The Sabres were in a position where the cost of Gaustad was going up and the on ice return was going down. Nashville clearly over payed for him at the deadline.

Not having him clearly hurts this season, but after his weak response to the Lucic incident (doing nothing at the time, then going through the motions in a staged fight in the next game) you won't hear many fans asking for him back. I've never seen a single incident turn so many fans off to a single player. I guess it was building over time, but the feeling is almost unanimous among Sabres fans... and how often does that happen?
 

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Actually Gaustad didn't even see what happened when Lucic hit Miller, and he was one of the last people in the scrum because he was far away when it happened. I'm not sure what he was supposed to do at the moment...tear through four guys and two officials when you're not totally sure what happened? Wait to sabatoge Lucic as he's escorted to the box? Later in the game Gaustad could've challenged Lucic, after he had the chance to see replays, but so could a number of other players. We don't know what Ruff said during the game, he could've told the team to allow the league to handle it (thinking something was going to be done).

If anyone should catch flak for not doing anything, that would be Myers. He was the next closest to Lucic after Sekera (who at least shoved Lucic) and despite not being a fighter, is big enough with enough reach to grapple and prove a point.

Gaustad gets way too much grief over it, but it was a great trade to pick up a 1st for him and a 4th rd pick that most people forget about. The deal would look better if Buffalo ever picked someone up that was an upgrade to Gaustad, but we're still waiting on that...
 

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Actually Gaustad didn't even see what happened when Lucic hit Miller, and he was one of the last people in the scrum because he was far away when it happened. I'm not sure what he was supposed to do at the moment...tear through four guys and two officials when you're not totally sure what happened? Wait to sabatoge Lucic as he's escorted to the box? Later in the game Gaustad could've challenged Lucic, after he had the chance to see replays, but so could a number of other players. We don't know what Ruff said during the game, he could've told the team to allow the league to handle it (thinking something was going to be done).

If anyone should catch flak for not doing anything, that would be Myers. He was the next closest to Lucic after Sekera (who at least shoved Lucic) and despite not being a fighter, is big enough with enough reach to grapple and prove a point.

Gaustad gets way too much grief over it, but it was a great trade to pick up a 1st for him and a 4th rd pick that most people forget about. The deal would look better if Buffalo ever picked someone up that was an upgrade to Gaustad, but we're still waiting on that...

Yes. You see your goaltender down and possibly injured, and see half your team staring at Looch, you go in there and start swinging.

Everyone on the ice deserves blame for that.
 

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His currently running at 60.9 FO% which is all we needed him to do. Thanks for the 1st!
 

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Yes. You see your goaltender down and possibly injured, and see half your team staring at Looch, you go in there and start swinging.

Everyone on the ice deserves blame for that.

Yeah, I get that mentality, but there were several players/offifcials in the way anyway. It's one thing to swing away on Lucic, it's another to go through several players and officials (knowing the certain league discipline) when you're not sure exactly what happened. At that immediate time, Gaustad only had access to Lucic when officials were escorting people to the box. That's a pretty dicey time to go berserker.
 

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I liked Goose and appreciated what he brought to the team when he was here.
That said, he was over paid and over used last season.

I didn't mind losing him at all, but I certainly expected a better replacement for him than Hecht.
That is a large part of where they are in the standings right now, IMO. :shakehead
 

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Gaustad after 2007 wasn't really a fighter. He broke in the league a lot heavier than he is currently, which allowed him to actually fight in his weight class (as opposed to getting grappled by Prust last season). He dropped the weight in 2010 to avoid nagging knee and shoulder injuries and lost a lot of his physical effectiveness. Goose was still a big body, and good on the cycle, but the flashes of power-forwardness he used to show were fewer and further between.

He was an alright teammate, but he already had a few "not responding to blatant cheapshot" strikes on his resume (Gomez), and the Miller incident combined with his physical inconsistency and 3 mil asking price to force him out of town.
 

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We could probably use him more on this present team than Roy, who somehow became a defensive stalwart after he left in the eyes of some.
 
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Truth be told i would happily have him around at the moment

Small world.

He is a decent but overpaid 3rd line C, good at faceoffs, i think he could have hit people and use his body more but i think we were happy with the 1st round pick and a "change of the core character" we harp on about round here. We could do with a consistent faceoff guy right now though.
 

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