Value of: Gaudreau vs Landeskog
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Oh my god stop this. Gaudreau is not going to get traded and no the flames don't do his. Landy is a very good player but cmon Gaudreau is in a different league.
Avs44
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I'd clearly take Gaudreau, even despite the likely contract difference and how much I love Landeskog. The only way the Flames would consider a trade is if Gaudreau's demands are obscene, and at that point the Avs couldn't afford Gaudreau right now anyway.
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you're not wrong landeskog is in the nhl, and gaudreau doesn't have a contract.
gaurdreau is the better player but to claim their is some gigantic gap is a little much.
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Well there is a considerable gap between the both of them. Gaudreau is a top 10 forward in the league and Landy is more in the 25-30 range. I would want a considerable asset to compensate for this gap. If ever we were looking to trade Gaudreau Landeskpg is exactly the type of base I would want though. Strong two way forward.
The add would most likely have to be a first.
Foppa
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Not close.
Landeskog is more comparable to Monahan in terms of level. Great player. Johnny is a different level of game breaker and his superior vision and creativity are just another level.
Contract doesn't matter. Landeskog is on a solid deal but Johnny will be worth whatever he ends up getting.
Edit: thought this was just player comparison - in terms of trade value, I guess contract will factor but still think Johnny is a considerable step ahead of Landeskog in value - and that is no slight on Gabe who is a great great player on a great contract.
Landeskog is more comparable to Monahan in terms of level. Great player. Johnny is a different level of game breaker and his superior vision and creativity are just another level.
Contract doesn't matter. Landeskog is on a solid deal but Johnny will be worth whatever he ends up getting.
Edit: thought this was just player comparison - in terms of trade value, I guess contract will factor but still think Johnny is a considerable step ahead of Landeskog in value - and that is no slight on Gabe who is a great great player on a great contract.
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I'm honestly not so sure Sakic would pull the trigger on a Landy for Gaudreau 1 for 1 swap.
Landy has been playing TOUGH 1st line minutes since his 1st season in the NHL (as an 18 year old). Hes one of the best 2 way wingers in the game, he's gonna be good for at least 60-70 points a season (25-30 goals), he's Colorado's captain and most importantly he makes 5.5M for the next 5 seasons. Gaudreau at 7-8M or Landeskog at 5.5M? I'd take Landeskog. Gaudreau at 6M is a different story tho.
Landy has been playing TOUGH 1st line minutes since his 1st season in the NHL (as an 18 year old). Hes one of the best 2 way wingers in the game, he's gonna be good for at least 60-70 points a season (25-30 goals), he's Colorado's captain and most importantly he makes 5.5M for the next 5 seasons. Gaudreau at 7-8M or Landeskog at 5.5M? I'd take Landeskog. Gaudreau at 6M is a different story tho.
I think we're getting close to similar value. As a Flames fan, and the Flames forced into a trade, Landeskog is a very decent return.
If Gaudreau's contract was 5 years, bringing him to his first year of UFA, we're probably not looking at anywhere near 7.5M. It's the last 3 UFA years that have people suspecting 7M+.
Landeskog's remaining contract is 5 years.
If Gaudreau's contract was 5 years, bringing him to his first year of UFA, we're probably not looking at anywhere near 7.5M. It's the last 3 UFA years that have people suspecting 7M+.
Honestly, if it's in a trade right now, I'd do lande and a solid prospect for Gaudreau. Not an amazing prospect, just one that is a sure bet to be like a solid third liner.
I think gabe brings enough to the table that with an added depth piece it'd be a good trade. Maybe not the best but a good one. I love both players though.
I think gabe brings enough to the table that with an added depth piece it'd be a good trade. Maybe not the best but a good one. I love both players though.
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Gaudreau is not a top ten forward in the league.
He is a very good player but not in that tier yet. Scoring isn't everything and there are alot of things he can't do because of size and strength limitations.
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Johnnybegood13
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Name 10 forwards you wouldn't trade straight up for Gaudreau.
But know this, I will show you more holes in most of your guys game than Gaudreau has. Gaudreau's 200 ft game is extremely underrated. When watching him live you really notice his hockey sense isn't a one track offensive pony.
strictlyrandy
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Name 10 forwards you wouldn't trade straight up for Gaudreau.
But know this, I will show you more holes in most of your guys game than Gaudreau has. Gaudreau's 200 ft game is extremely underrated. When watching him live you really notice his hockey sense isn't a one track offensive pony.
Holy over rating of Gaudreau. He's a a good player but pump the brakes a bit.
I'll even avoid homer votes for my Avs..
Crosby, Malkin, Ovechkin, Backstrom, Benn, Seguin, P. Kane, Tavares, McDavid, Kopitar, and Bergeron.
There's 11 off the top of my head. I'd even argue Barkov over Gaudreau. I'd take Auston Matthews just off of potential alone as well.
Pump. The. Brakes.
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A guy like Ovechkin is beginning to exit his peak years. Gaudreau outproduced him handily last season as a 22 year old sophomore on a way worse team with less offensive support. Ovechkin was the 3rd most productive player on the Caps last year on a PPG basis, with only one more point than Backstrom in 4 more games. It's certainly nice to have 2 of the best playmaking centers on the planet if you're Ovechkin. I like Monahan, but he can't do for Johnny what Backstrom and Kuznetsov can do for OV.
He only had 7 more ESGs than Gaudreau last season, yet had 10 less ESP.
It's a good bet that over the next 5 years, Gaudreau continues to outproduce him, probably by an increasing margin. Over the next 8 years, it's a near certainty.
If you were building a team to compete for a cup for the next decade, you'd be crazy to start with Ovechkin over Gaudreau.
Ovechkin is the best goal scorer of his generation, but his generation is on its way out. A new wave of talent is coming into the league. Guys like McDavid, Eichel, Matthews, Gaudreau, Laine etc are well positioned to become the next wave of perennial all stars. The value of these types of players is higher than pretty much every star that is on the wrong side of 30. How many teams these days are winning championships when their best forward is in their 30's?
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Bolded players yes, the rest are either too old,too expensive or IMO not as good. McDavid is unproven to be better so I'm on the fence.
And LOL for Barkov, Monahan is just as good. Matthews I would do for sure, I think he'll be the best player in the league in 5 years.
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I agree some players on the list may be better now, though older and on the wrong side of their prime. I won't throw names out for more debate, as I think Gaudreau is a phenomenal player, but not bolding Tavares is criminal. The man can play.
Jarey Curry
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Name 10 forwards you wouldn't trade straight up for Gaudreau.
But know this, I will show you more holes in most of your guys game than Gaudreau has. Gaudreau's 200 ft game is extremely underrated. When watching him live you really notice his hockey sense isn't a one track offensive pony.
You forgot the difference between the words forward and left winger, Gaudreau is top ten lw in the game
Estimated_Prophet
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Agreed, and would add Toews, Stamkos, Getzlaf, off the top of my head. Not to mention Eichel , MacKinnon, Laine etc. for their upside.
Gaudreau is in the same class as Pavelski, Kucherov, Duchene, Kuznetsov etc.....He is not a center piece but is a darn good player in his own right.
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In what way is Mackinnon's upside greater than Gaudreau's? And how is he not a center piece?
strictlyrandy
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Still a no, would need something along with him, for Johnny,
maybe something like Johnny + Wideman for Landy + Iggy + ?
maybe something like Johnny + Wideman for Landy + Iggy + ?
strictlyrandy
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No for the Avs. They need more like Landeskog not less. Gaudreau would be nice but not at any cost for the Avs. Also Iggy and Wideman are a wash. Would rather let one of the D prospects have time as well.
There's no fit here at all.
