Big Phil
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Okay, I am not one of those "blame the refs" type of fans. Not even when my team loses. I just never have been and I tend to be consistent with that. In the NFC championship game last year with the Saints a couple minutes away from going to the Super Bowl I was not mad about the non-call on pass interference, but rather than they weren't running the ball and draining the clock. I do the same in hockey. But what moments do you think the refs had the biggest hand in the outcome? This was inspired by the most recent spring's collapse of Vegas vs. San Jose. So I'll start there.
2019 Vegas vs. San Jose Game 7 - Okay, the obvious thing to say here, Vegas blew a 3-1 series lead and in Game 7 blew a 3-0 lead with half a period to go. No doubt, they blew it. But I was watching that game and Vegas was cruising in Game 7. They did everything right and then that awful call on Pavelski gives them a 5 minute major. I thought there might be trouble but a 3-0 lead is still pretty safe and if you have a good penalty kill you should get away with it. After two goals were scored, I as a fan of neither team, got a lump in my throat. It was one of those "Oh, no, don't let this happen hockey gods!" I mean, for the sake of the NHL I was cheering for Vegas to pull this one out because the ramifications of them losing would be horrible. Then San Jose ties it, then they go ahead and the momentum was just on their side. Vegas does tie it and send it to overtime and have ample chances to win it but Fleury finally lets one in and its over. To Fleury's credit, while he did allow 4 goals on one power play he was absolutely stellar in overtime, robbing the Sharks blind at times. I just hated this game because it isn't how you want it to go as a hockey fan. It was just blatant and it flipped things immediately. I guess if anyone could have nailed things down it may have been Fleury, so you can give him some blame there but that call just should have never been made to a team that was completely out of the game by then.
1980 Cup finals Game 6 - I thought Potvin's goal was good. The stick wasn't high and if video replay existed back then it would count. I don't know why that one gets brought up. But Duane Sutter's goal was completely offside. I honestly don't know how Leon Stickle missed that one, it was right in front of him with a lot of white real estate (ice) in front of him. It made the Flyers hesitate just enough. Now, I still think the Islanders win the Cup and were the better team. Somehow they still just win in my mind but that was a bad call by Stickle who doesn't have any friends in Philly.
Okay, pick ones that you think apply here.
P.S. - No, I didn't pick Gretzky's high stick in 1993 vs. the Leafs. Because the Leafs still had overtime and then even after a loss they had Game 7 at home. Kerry Fraser and the linesmen probably knew they should have made that call, and if you watch the footage of the game you can see Gretzky nervously pacing after Gilmour is talking to the ref, but this was not an elimination game.
Almost....................one of the greatest games in NHL history was Game 5 the deciding game of the best of 5 between the Rangers and Islanders in 1984. The Islanders have a lead in the final minute and have the "drive for 5" on the line. Don Maloney scores the tying goal against Billy Smith on what was a blatant high stick that did not need video review. It was way too high. It was above his head. Yet the goal stood and overtime was end to end before the Islanders won it and made that bad call just a footnote.
2019 Vegas vs. San Jose Game 7 - Okay, the obvious thing to say here, Vegas blew a 3-1 series lead and in Game 7 blew a 3-0 lead with half a period to go. No doubt, they blew it. But I was watching that game and Vegas was cruising in Game 7. They did everything right and then that awful call on Pavelski gives them a 5 minute major. I thought there might be trouble but a 3-0 lead is still pretty safe and if you have a good penalty kill you should get away with it. After two goals were scored, I as a fan of neither team, got a lump in my throat. It was one of those "Oh, no, don't let this happen hockey gods!" I mean, for the sake of the NHL I was cheering for Vegas to pull this one out because the ramifications of them losing would be horrible. Then San Jose ties it, then they go ahead and the momentum was just on their side. Vegas does tie it and send it to overtime and have ample chances to win it but Fleury finally lets one in and its over. To Fleury's credit, while he did allow 4 goals on one power play he was absolutely stellar in overtime, robbing the Sharks blind at times. I just hated this game because it isn't how you want it to go as a hockey fan. It was just blatant and it flipped things immediately. I guess if anyone could have nailed things down it may have been Fleury, so you can give him some blame there but that call just should have never been made to a team that was completely out of the game by then.
1980 Cup finals Game 6 - I thought Potvin's goal was good. The stick wasn't high and if video replay existed back then it would count. I don't know why that one gets brought up. But Duane Sutter's goal was completely offside. I honestly don't know how Leon Stickle missed that one, it was right in front of him with a lot of white real estate (ice) in front of him. It made the Flyers hesitate just enough. Now, I still think the Islanders win the Cup and were the better team. Somehow they still just win in my mind but that was a bad call by Stickle who doesn't have any friends in Philly.
Okay, pick ones that you think apply here.
P.S. - No, I didn't pick Gretzky's high stick in 1993 vs. the Leafs. Because the Leafs still had overtime and then even after a loss they had Game 7 at home. Kerry Fraser and the linesmen probably knew they should have made that call, and if you watch the footage of the game you can see Gretzky nervously pacing after Gilmour is talking to the ref, but this was not an elimination game.
Almost....................one of the greatest games in NHL history was Game 5 the deciding game of the best of 5 between the Rangers and Islanders in 1984. The Islanders have a lead in the final minute and have the "drive for 5" on the line. Don Maloney scores the tying goal against Billy Smith on what was a blatant high stick that did not need video review. It was way too high. It was above his head. Yet the goal stood and overtime was end to end before the Islanders won it and made that bad call just a footnote.