Vatrano
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Yeah his 23 goals would make zero difference to Jimmy's 13... at least Hayes can "hit".... lol also don't forget he's a -10
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Yeah his 23 goals would make zero difference to Jimmy's 13... at least Hayes can "hit".... lol also don't forget he's a -10
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I think you can't just say Smith would have 23 goals here and that's it. It doesn't really work like that. He was terrible here last year and floated like crazy. I'm neither a Hayes lover (who is?) nor a Smith hater but wishing Smith were here feels similar to people whining about Caron. Neither of those guys really make any difference.
Vatrano
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Smith has much more talent then Hayes and Caron combined. I know for a fact he'd be better on the PP then Hayes at the very least. The fact you're saying a 2x 20 goal scorer wouldn't make a difference and is similar to Caron in anyway is ridiculous. All I know is Smith > Hayes... sure he had one inconsistent season here... he was definitely more consistent than Hayes is this season though
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comparing a guy with 23 goals and 44 points this year to a guy who might never play in the NHL again is a really absurd statement and shows just how wrong and biased you apparently are.
This myth that Reilly Smith was useless has really got to end. This fan base has a tendency to repeat falsehoods until they believe them and it really makes us all look stupid.
Did Smith have his flaws? Sure, like any middle 6 winger. But Smith is unquestionably a better player than Hayes and Connolly both (maybe even combined) and their inability to step up and replace Reilly is a big reason Sweeney had to go out and get a Stempniak for the Bergeron line.
If it were up to me I'd happily have Smith right now instead of Hayes and Connolly and then let Vatrano fill the extra spot that would leave.
Vatrano
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Exactly, Smith is a better shooter, playmaker, skater, puck handler, and his hockey IQ is much higher. I'm not saying he should have stayed on the 37-63 line but he would be far better playing with Spooner and Beleskey... then maybe that line would be a threat to score... unlike now with a plug like Hayes on it
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Smith's softness is also wildly overstated but once people make up their mind on a guy they will see what they want to see and there's no changing their minds.
Doesn't help that he had a down year after a contract extension in a year where the entire team played like crap. I think it's generally a mistake to form a final opinion on a player under those circumstances but what's done is done.
Vatrano
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Actually put up a solid fight against a bigger Anders Lee too.. Heres 6'5" Hayes looking like a fool and barely being able to stay on his feet
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I wasn't trying to compare Caron and Smith. All I mean is that there is little difference between Smith & Hayes to me. Just like having Caron instead of some other 4th line plug makes little difference IMO (I never should have brought up Jordan).
But I'm definitely not going to go on any more about any of them. I do agree that I wanna see Vatrano up in Boston.
Vatrano
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Smith is far more talented and skilled than Hayes.. you have to be able to see that. The only thing Hayes has on Smith is size and he doesn't even use it.
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Oates2Neely
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Hayes isn't Marchand but he isn't as bad as some are portraying here. He's young, maybe he can improve
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This place makes me chuckle. After the TDL many hated (I too voiced real concern) this team takes points and mostly wins from CHI, WAS, FLA, TB, and NYI. Anyone who says that was a likely outcome is either clairvoyant or full of doo.
After the debacle that was last season -- and need I remind anyone of the putrid tank we put in the last 6 weeks of last season -- we make ballsy changes such as shipping out Lucic and Hamilton. And even so, would anyone have predicted we'd be fighting for 2nd seed in East with a dozen games to go? Again, clairvoyant or full of doo.
Did anyone think we'd restock the prospects (there were few) and get out of an seemingly intractable cap hell and still be in the position we're in? No, another case of clairvoyant or doo.
And yet we lose a tight game against one of the hottest teams in the West, let alone the League, and all we get is Sweeney was a fool for moving Hayes for Smith.
Anyone can play armchair GM and Monday morning quarterback trades --- but the real trick is to build a whole team while managing the Cap. Sum of the parts people, sum of the parts.
With playoffs nearly assured, you'd think there would be some joy in mudville.
I guess not.
After the debacle that was last season -- and need I remind anyone of the putrid tank we put in the last 6 weeks of last season -- we make ballsy changes such as shipping out Lucic and Hamilton. And even so, would anyone have predicted we'd be fighting for 2nd seed in East with a dozen games to go? Again, clairvoyant or full of doo.
Did anyone think we'd restock the prospects (there were few) and get out of an seemingly intractable cap hell and still be in the position we're in? No, another case of clairvoyant or doo.
And yet we lose a tight game against one of the hottest teams in the West, let alone the League, and all we get is Sweeney was a fool for moving Hayes for Smith.
Anyone can play armchair GM and Monday morning quarterback trades --- but the real trick is to build a whole team while managing the Cap. Sum of the parts people, sum of the parts.
With playoffs nearly assured, you'd think there would be some joy in mudville.
I guess not.
The biggest joke is how all you guys look at is goals and points . Do you guys not think Claude and management aren't smart enough to know he has lots of guys in the minors that would get more points than hayes. Do you think he doesn't know if he used koko on the 4th line he would score more than 55 lol. There is a lot more to this game . I am not a Hayes fan and I like r. smith more but to say he does nothing at all better is a joke . Pretty well all players have a few areas they can do better than another guy in rather they are better or not.
Hayes certainly has more to offer than several of our projects over the last four or five yrs. If you asked me who has given us more this yr him or Connolly I would have a very hard time answering and for the record I was very high on Connolly coming here and didn't like the hayes-r smith trade. I love the future of vatrano but yet I really thought his play had dropped enough that he really deserved the demotion not just a waiver thing unlike Colin who I don't think played himself to the minors.
Hayes certainly has more to offer than several of our projects over the last four or five yrs. If you asked me who has given us more this yr him or Connolly I would have a very hard time answering and for the record I was very high on Connolly coming here and didn't like the hayes-r smith trade. I love the future of vatrano but yet I really thought his play had dropped enough that he really deserved the demotion not just a waiver thing unlike Colin who I don't think played himself to the minors.
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Being negative is the new positive.
The Clode Posse has been somewhat silenced by the record breaking and Coach of the Year talk. Krejci's been taking hits but too many posters know the foolishness of that. Hayes, a really easy target at the moment.
Bad year for Bruins fans.
I hope we do better next year.
Fire Claude?
Pining for Reilly Smith?
Bailing on Bergeron and the core with an almost unheard of demand for a sell-off at the deadline.
Riding Zdeno Freaking Chara all year like he is a donkey.
yikers
I hope we do better next year.
Fire Claude?
Pining for Reilly Smith?
Bailing on Bergeron and the core with an almost unheard of demand for a sell-off at the deadline.
Riding Zdeno Freaking Chara all year like he is a donkey.
yikers
20 hours later, DK46 line looked like men playing with boys in the first.
Makes the third so much fungercarb.
Makes the third so much fungercarb.
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I suggest anyone missing Reilly Smith think back to last year when he signed that contract and subsequently was benched should go read those Smith threads
soft as a babies butt
also while you are taking a break thru the Reilly Smith beatdown on HF Boards (its pretty brutal 10 times more dislike than Hayes is getting here)
Fantasy wise I'd take Smith but reality he was a bad fit for this team
go watch the Brad Marchand videos this summer and I can tell you if you cant figure it out he was talking about Smith
Removing him was addition by subtraction
Chiarelli shoved Smith down that teams throat to justify the Seguin deal and overpaid him hoping
the security would help him
soft as a babies butt
also while you are taking a break thru the Reilly Smith beatdown on HF Boards (its pretty brutal 10 times more dislike than Hayes is getting here)
Fantasy wise I'd take Smith but reality he was a bad fit for this team
go watch the Brad Marchand videos this summer and I can tell you if you cant figure it out he was talking about Smith
Removing him was addition by subtraction
Chiarelli shoved Smith down that teams throat to justify the Seguin deal and overpaid him hoping
the security would help him
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I suggest anyone missing Reilly Smith think back to last year when he signed that contract and subsequently was benched should go read those Smith threads
soft as a babies butt
also while you are taking a break thru the Reilly Smith beatdown on HF Boards (its pretty brutal 10 times more dislike than Hayes is getting here)
Fantasy wise I'd take Smith but reality he was a bad fit for this team
go watch the Brad Marchand videos this summer and I can tell you if you cant figure it out he was talking about Smith
Removing him was addition by subtraction
Chiarelli shoved Smith down that teams throat to justify the Seguin deal and overpaid him hoping
Agreed. I am glad he is gone. He was taking shifts off, playing soft, was making horrific turnovers on an epic scale at times, and looked like he didn't give a rat's ass. Don't need players like that on this team. Certainly a bad fit.
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Thats one of the worst comparisons I have seen in a long time. Those two guys have two fights collectively. You found the only sample size and made a deduction based on that. Yikes
But this leads to, why in the world are we talking about Riley Smith? He's gone and that locker room is happy he is gone. Just who do you think Marchand and Neely were talking about when they said "members" of this team quit during the season?
Vatrano
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To be fair, you have absolutely 0 proof that Reilly Smith is the player they were referring to and have never been inside that locker room. Could have been any of the many players that left this team after last season. If you're not impressed with Smith holding his own in that fight, you're kidding yourself. Anders Lee is 6'3" 228 while Smith is 6' 185. I included the Jimmy Hayes fight because it was hilarious, not to prove he's a worse fighter or softer than Smith. If you actually watch Hayes play, he plays softer than Charmin. He's 6'5" 215 but sure as hell doesn't play like it. You can say that's not his game to play a tough physical game but then what else does he provide? Offense? Barely. Good defensive play? Ha no. The guy is a plug and makes just as many mistakes if not more than Smith. My point isn't that Smith is tougher than Hayes.. He just brings a hell of a lot more to the table.
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Ray Ferraro was on TSN Radio in Vancouver this afternoon and he said "his Bruin insider" told him the ice in San Jose was basically unplayable last night, the worst he's ever seen.
The team played well, on the road against a good team, got severely unlucky and the officiating was hilarious. A good loss.
They need to get something out of the next two though. Need to find a way to steal a win and come home with something.
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