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GDT: Game # 70 - New York Rangers vs Philadelphia Flyers - 7pm EST - MSG+ ( Rescue Rangers edition)

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I finally get my wish for the 3rd line. Been wanting that, but because of injuries /covid I dont think GG has used before.
Really seems that could work as Filip has found his game much better lately, GOAT brings what he brings, but Laffy has absolutely got to understand that he should be SHOOTING every opportunity.
Puck will die on Gautier's stick one way or the other and Filip isnt exactly a sniper, even though his backhander has got to be one of the strongest and most used in the NHL.
 
Lafreniere-Chytil-Gauthier actually had great chemistry earlier in the season. Gauthier and Chytil were just having gargantuan struggles with finishing off plays.
 
Feel sorry for the Flyers (not really, in fact not at all, in fact not in a million years) as the Rangers should really be pissed with themselves for that last "performance", if you wanna call it that.
 
Harbour Dog said:
Yeah, I have no issues with Brodzinkski being in the linup; he was part of that 4th line, and he likely is a little more versatile and trustworthy than Hunt.

My problem with dressing Reaves over Hunt is that Hunt is just as physical, but his hits seem to be more effective at affecting puck possession. If we knew, for whatever reason, that there was going to be a lot of scrums and altercations after the whistles, then that would be where Reaves gains value for me. The problem with regular season games, is that they don't generally get that chippy, and when they will isn't always predictable.

To your last point, I'm willing to admit that I almost certainly underestimate what he brings to the room. He may very well be one of the more important veteran voices in the room, but it isn't something that I factor into lineup decisions at all.

And don't get me wrong, I'm glad that we have him. Especially in the playoffs, if another team wants to outgoon us, that is going to be very difficult to do when we have one of the league's trump cards. A trump card that comes with the nice bonus of having been to the Finals recently.
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AHL players I would have in the line-up over McKegg or Hunt:

Gauthier
Brodzinski
Greco
Gettinger
 
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AHL players I would have in the line-up over McKegg or Hunt:

Gauthier
Brodzinski
Greco
Gettinger
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From what we've seen, at the LEAST the first two on the list. I would say the *main* reason why I am not an NHL level coach is because I cannot fathom why McKegg and to an extent Hunt gets in the lineup over those two guys. If I figure that one out...
 
Amazing Kreiderman said:
AHL players I would have in the line-up over McKegg or Hunt:

Gauthier
Brodzinski
Greco
Gettinger
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Agree on Gauthier. And Brodzinski is right on their tier too.

For Greco and Gettinger, I wouldn't mind getting another look at them both, but I would be very surprised if either one proved to be as good a 4th liner right now as Hunt.

Maybe with some more reps, either one could give McKegg a run for his money. Greco may actually be able to step right in and take his spot right now, without too many growing pains. But Hunt is a top tier 4th liner. His curse is that he plays so well in that role that he keeps getting moved up to spots in the lineup where he doesn't fit.
 
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Harbour Dog said:
Agree on Gauthier. And Brodzinski is right on their tier too.

For Greco and Gettinger, I wouldn't mind getting another look at them both, but I would be very surprised if either one proved to be as good a 4th liner right now as Hunt.

Maybe with some more reps, either one could give McKegg a run for his money. Greco may actually be able to step right in and take his spot right now, without too many growing pains. But Hunt is a top tier 4th liner. His curse is that he plays so well in that role that he keeps getting moved up to spots in the lineup where he doesn't fit.
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My reasoning is this:

We already know McKegg and Hunt aren't NHL caliber. At least with Gettinger and Greco, in the right role, we saw decent performances albeit a small sample size.
 
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My reasoning is this:

We already know McKegg and Hunt aren't NHL caliber. At least with Gettinger and Greco, in the right role, we saw decent performances albeit a small sample size.
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That's where the disconnect is then. I think Hunt is a great 4th liner; definitely NHL calibre. Big, strong, quick, aggressive, knows the role well.

McKegg is replacement level, which I could see Greco also being, perhaps.

From Gettinger's games earlier this year, I think he's below replacement level. There's potential there, and he's huge, but he isn't quick and was making a couple very poor decisions a game, despite the limited minutes.
 
Harbour Dog said:
That's where the disconnect is then. I think Hunt is a great 4th liner; definitely NHL calibre. Big, strong, quick, aggressive, knows the role well.

McKegg is replacement level, which I could see Greco also being, perhaps.

From Gettinger's games earlier this year, I think he's below replacement level. There's potential there, and he's huge, but he isn't quick and was making a couple very poor decisions a game, despite the limited minutes.
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Our 4th line is already set with Motte-Goodrow-Reaves/Rooney. There's no need for Hunt on this team.

He's not an NHL caliber top-9 player, and he's not good enough to beat out our 4th liners IMO when we are healthy. And compared to Gettinger and Greco, I'm not sure Hunt brings anything this team needs which the otehr two don't.
 
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Our 4th line is already set with Motte-Goodrow-Reaves/Rooney. There's no need for Hunt on this team.

He's not an NHL caliber top-9 player, and he's not good enough to beat out our 4th liners IMO when we are healthy. And compared to Gettinger and Greco, I'm not sure Hunt brings anything this team needs which the otehr two don't.
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Motte-Goodrow-Rooney as a 4th line would be a good enough reason to scratch Hunt for me. We need to be perfectly healthy for that to happen though, which is very unlikely.

In the playoffs, there will be plenty of room for guys to get into the lineup just like there is now; and Hunt is a much better option than Greco or Gettinger would be. Even if you think that Hunt is replacement level, and shouldn't get minutes on a good team; taking the guy that's definitely replacement level over the guy that you hope might be replacement level is the way to go.
 
Harbour Dog said:
Yeah, I have no issues with Brodzinkski being in the linup; he was part of that 4th line, and he likely is a little more versatile and trustworthy than Hunt.

My problem with dressing Reaves over Hunt is that Hunt is just as physical, but his hits seem to be more effective at affecting puck possession. If we knew, for whatever reason, that there was going to be a lot of scrums and altercations after the whistles, then that would be where Reaves gains value for me. The problem with regular season games, is that they don't generally get that chippy, and when they will isn't always predictable.

To your last point, I'm willing to admit that I almost certainly underestimate what he brings to the room. He may very well be one of the more important veteran voices in the room, but it isn't something that I factor into lineup decisions at all.

And don't get me wrong, I'm glad that we have him. Especially in the playoffs, if another team wants to outgoon us, that is going to be very difficult to do when we have one of the league's trump cards. A trump card that comes with the nice bonus of having been to the Finals recently.
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Looks like the Flyers have MacEwen, Seeler and Thompson in the lineup tonight. Probably a good idea to have Reaves in this one. MacEwen did take a beating last night from Wayne Simmonds.
 
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Harbour Dog said:
Yeah, I have no issues with Brodzinkski being in the linup; he was part of that 4th line, and he likely is a little more versatile and trustworthy than Hunt.

My problem with dressing Reaves over Hunt is that Hunt is just as physical, but his hits seem to be more effective at affecting puck possession. If we knew, for whatever reason, that there was going to be a lot of scrums and altercations after the whistles, then that would be where Reaves gains value for me. The problem with regular season games, is that they don't generally get that chippy, and when they will isn't always predictable.

To your last point, I'm willing to admit that I almost certainly underestimate what he brings to the room. He may very well be one of the more important veteran voices in the room, but it isn't something that I factor into lineup decisions at all.

And don't get me wrong, I'm glad that we have him. Especially in the playoffs, if another team wants to outgoon us, that is going to be very difficult to do when we have one of the league's trump cards. A trump card that comes with the nice bonus of having been to the Finals recently.
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Completely agree with you. 4th line should be some combination of Motte, Goodrow, Brodzinski, and Hunt. Pretty baffling that it isn't.
 
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