GDT: Game 66: Columbus at Carolina | 3/10 7PM EDT

[Mayor Bee]

The late, great Sparky Anderson once remarked, "every dog has its day" when some pitcher beat the Reds. Forget who it was.

It was Joaquin Andujar, who I've actually mentioned on here a couple times before but to illustrate a different point.

Andujar came up with Cincinnati, was a bit of a hothead, and never really got a good chance because Sparky didn't like that. He was traded to Houston in 1975 for a player to be named later, pitched well, and beat the Reds twice in 1977 in addition to a complete game loss in which he didn't get run support. Sparky was asked if he regretted giving away Andujar, and he said "every dog has its day".

Andujar drove everyone nuts except Whitey Herzog. Most managers would be on the receiving end of one of Andujar's blowups and either send him home or to the bullpen until he learned to fall in line, which he wouldn't do....Herzog would just send him out to start every few days and got his best years as a result. In fact, he got enough out of Andujar that he was almost traded to Detroit straight-up after the 1985 season for Jack Morris.

 

[Forepar]

Johansen>Balastik.

 

[Forepar]

So in this thread so far, we have a reference to Hrdina, Norrena, Balastik and now Picard.

And Duvie Westcott for good measure

Scott "No Chance" LaChance

 

[KJ Dangler]

ESPN

http://scores.espn.go.com/nhl/recap?gameId=400564566

Redicolous, alot of players are adopting this tactic or really coming wide then middle slowly, as long as hes still moving forward, totally legal goal. Atleast Carolina got 1 point, and one of our future core made play to win game. Im ok with this result, just hope we dont get hot and win meaningless games.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Redicolous, alot of players are adopting this tactic or really coming wide then middle slowly, as long as hes still moving forward, totally legal goal. Atleast Carolina got 1 point, and one of our future core made play to win game. Im ok with this result, just hope we dont get hot and win meaningless games.

I should have used boldface. Read the start of the third paragraph.

 

[Forepar]

Porty is correct, Bob shouldn't have shown up Prout, even though it was soft ass D and he was right to be mad, you just don't embarrass the guy during the game, you can yell at him while looking away or something. That being said, it certainly sparked Bob, he was lights out the rest of the game because he knew he had to be after losing his cool. I'm sure they laughed about it after the game but Bob was in the wrong for looking up at Prout.

A no-no 99% of the time. But last night might have been the right move at the right time. Not just because of the game result (thought that helped!), but because doing it behind closed doors hasn't been working, and I doubt Bob ever does it again.
Did wake up call for 2015/16 happen at 8:00 pm last night?

I don't believe that, just was damn glad to see somebody pissed, and at the right thing. Not Prout personally, but finally some accountability, even if it was over the top. As much as Bob won't do that again, I bet Prout (and others) do a better job of clearing lanes in coming games.

 

[ca5150]

ESPN

http://scores.espn.go.com/nhl/recap?gameId=400564566

Ha, they probably think that IS a forehand shot at ESPN

 

[Forepar]

I should have used boldface. Read the start of the third paragraph.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dalrphHivOs
"Just a bit outside"

 

[We Want Ten]

No problem with Bob or the win last night. Sometimes venting does a soul or team good.

 

[DarkandStormy]

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=757489#&navid=nhl-search

That title though....

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=757489#&navid=nhl-search

That title though....

Same dumbass reference to Johansen going with the forehand as in the ESPN article. All must be coming from the same wire service.

 

[Kev22]

A no-no 99% of the time. But last night might have been the right move at the right time. Not just because of the game result (thought that helped!), but because doing it behind closed doors hasn't been working, and I doubt Bob ever does it again.
Did wake up call for 2015/16 happen at 8:00 pm last night?

I don't believe that, just was damn glad to see somebody pissed, and at the right thing. Not Prout personally, but finally some accountability, even if it was over the top. As much as Bob won't do that again, I bet Prout (and others) do a better job of clearing lanes in coming games.

Might not have been the best thing for Bob to do, but I loved it. Prout basically had his big ass in Bob's face. Anyone on this board could have scored that goal because the goalie was blind. Prout's been guilty of this type of thing before, so maybe Bob had just had enough. All I know is that club played totally different after that. They dominated the final forty minutes. If that's what it takes, then so be it.

I wish Dubi or one of the leaders of the team would lose their **** more often to spark this club. Hopefully instead of these guys dusting off their same lame excuses for getting outplayed from the start and losing, it will be replaced by a couple of tantrums resulting in a focus, pissed off club. I can handle the losing as long as there is a winning effort, not some of the crap we've been fed this year.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

It was Joaquin Andujar, who I've actually mentioned on here a couple times before but to illustrate a different point.

Andujar came up with Cincinnati, was a bit of a hothead, and never really got a good chance because Sparky didn't like that. He was traded to Houston in 1975 for a player to be named later, pitched well, and beat the Reds twice in 1977 in addition to a complete game loss in which he didn't get run support. Sparky was asked if he regretted giving away Andujar, and he said "every dog has its day".

Andujar drove everyone nuts except Whitey Herzog. Most managers would be on the receiving end of one of Andujar's blowups and either send him home or to the bullpen until he learned to fall in line, which he wouldn't do....Herzog would just send him out to start every few days and got his best years as a result. In fact, he got enough out of Andujar that he was almost traded to Detroit straight-up after the 1985 season for Jack Morris.

I've tried to find a condensed video version of his game 7 meltdown in the 1985 WS, but haven't been able to locate one.

Here are some quotes:

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/quotes/quoandj.shtml

 

[Mayor Bee]

I've tried to find a condensed video version of his game 7 meltdown in the 1985 WS, but haven't been able to locate one.

Here are some quotes:

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/quotes/quoandj.shtml

It was a total team meltdown. Even Ozzie Smith said something stupid after the game to reporters, I think it was "When you feel like you've been robbed, it's understandable to be mad".

That was the problem with the Herzog teams. He preached aggression to the point of insanity; if you slapped a ball to short, he didn't want you thinking about beating the force, he wanted you thinking about getting to second if the shortstop mishandled it. If you were held at first, he wanted you thinking about stealing second. His pitchers were aggressive, his hitters were aggressive...he'd have been a great hunter and a terrible buzzard.

The flip side was that they could melt down with adversity. Yes, Denkinger missed the call in Game 6. It gave St. Louis a man on first with no outs, but they were still down by a run. Buckle down, get the three outs, and win the World Series. They melted down. They melted down like Chicago in the 2003 NLCS, who had a three-run lead in the 8th and lost it after Moises Alou lost it.

 

[Dr. Fire]

No problem with Bob or the win last night. Sometimes venting does a soul or team good.

Plus, everyone knows that there has to be a lot of pent up frustration at how this season has been going.

No biggie.