Post-Game Talk: GAME #65 - It wasn't pretty but 2 points is 2 points - BRUINS 3 NJ Devils 2 F

[Blowfish]

Spooner is flying under Cassidy. Total 180.

 

[Ladyfan]

Spooner is flying under Cassidy. Total 180.

I think he likes his new line mate

 

[remer]

Spooner is flying under Cassidy. Total 180.

Where are the Clode lovers who thought Spooner was going to be nothing but a PP specialist and we should trade him for a bag of pucks.

 

[b in vancouver]

Where are the Clode lovers who thought Spooner was going to be nothing but a PP specialist and we should trade him for a bag of pucks.

Truthfully. Not to sure what to think with Spooner looking more engaged since Cassidy.
Happy he's playing better but also a bit frustrated he wasn't showing the same engagement earlier in the season.
Still not sold.

 

[Bruinator]

3 wins in a row for Dobby
Big 2 pts vs a lesser team.
Stafford looked ok.
Good thing about this game is I expect better finish vs Sens

A little more than "OK". The guy scored a great goal in the dirty area albeit wrongfully called back and then had a great set up to Spooner for the winning goal. Was engaged all night. What prey tell would have constituted a better than "OK" game for a guy in his first game with new team mates in a new system?

 

[Blowfish]

Truthfully. Not to sure what to think with Spooner looking more engaged since Cassidy.
Happy he's playing better but also a bit frustrated he wasn't showing the same engagement earlier in the season.
Still not sold.

 

[VanIsle]

Stafford 7 shots today. Not bad dor minimal minutes.

 

[Bruinator]

As I worked tonight, so too did I miss this game.

Why was a goal overturned and was it legit?

Called Goaltender interference. Stafford shot the puck on net from in close. Schneider stopped it but goal mouth scramble insued. Referees deemed Stafford pushed Schneider's pad and puck over line. Looked like a simple scramble to me, at no time did Schneider have puck covered, Brickley thought it was a good goal.

 

[Bruinator]

Truthfully. Not to sure what to think with Spooner looking more engaged since Cassidy.
Happy he's playing better but also a bit frustrated he wasn't showing the same engagement earlier in the season.
Still not sold.

lol So you are happy he is playing better under Cassidy than he was under Julien and you are somehow confused by this despite the fact that it has been widely publicized that he was always in Julien's doghouse??? LOl

 

[b in vancouver]

He kinda dug a hole with me as a fan.
He's competing harder lately - but I highly doubt Julien was saying 'Don't compete'. If he wasn't working as hard because of his coach then I'm not too thrilled.
Going to take a bit of time for me to get back on board as I still have my doubts.
(will he stop trying as hard the second Cassidy does something he doesn't think works perfectly for him?)

Hope he continues to prove me wrong.

 

[Bruinator]

He kinda dug a hole with me as a fan.
He's competing harder lately - but I highly doubt Julien was saying 'Don't compete'. If he wasn't working as hard because of his coach then I'm not too thrilled.
Going to take a bit of time for me to get back on board as I still have my doubts.
(will he stop trying as hard the second Cassidy does something he doesn't think works perfectly for him?)

Hope he continues to prove me wrong.

Julien was clearly misusing him and obviously confusing him. Sometimes you just have to let skill players use their skill and I think Cassidy knows this. Blaming Spooner for this seems ridiculous to me. Give credit where credit is due.

 

[b in vancouver]

lol So you are happy he is playing better under Cassidy than he was under Julien and you are somehow confused by this despite the fact that it has been widely publicized that he was always in Julien's doghouse??? LOl

Never mind Julien. He was in my doghouse as a fan. He just never seemed to work hard enough out there, did too many fly-bys and didn't battle. It wasn't about usage or points or anything for me. It was about work.
I have mixed feelings about him showing that under a new coach.

 

[b in vancouver]

Julien was clearly misusing him and obviously confusing him. Sometimes you just have to let skill players use their skill and I think Cassidy knows this. Blaming Spooner for this seems ridiculous to me. Give credit where credit is due.

I hope he keeps it up. But it's going to have to be more than a handful of games for me.
The skill is there - for sure - but lots of players are skilled and can't put in the work and effort to take it to the next level. That's on the player.

 

[Aeroforce]

As I worked tonight, so too did I miss this game.

Why was a goal overturned and was it legit?

I haven't been able to find a Tweet of it, but here is the video on nhl.com https://www.nhl.com/news/bruins-goal-overturned-after-devils-coachs-challenge/c-287384828

Stafford was going for the puck, which was under Schneider's pad. In poking at the puck, he also caught pad.

Watching it in real time, I believe it's a goal.

I really dislike how every time a goal is scored now, especially close in - I have to temper my enthusiasm because of the challenge.

If memory serves, it was a non-call when Dwight King 'interfered' with Lundqvist in the Cup Final in 2014 that got the conversation started on this? Like with the toe nail being offside negating goals, I don't think a league starved for goals envisioned all the ticky-tack things that not only get challenged, but get reversed.

In my opinion, it's a blight on the game.

 

[CDJ]

I don't think Spooner was sandbagging julien by being less engaged

I do think he is far more confident being offensively aggressive under Cassidy. The rapport is better and he doesn't seem worried about making mistakes and incurring the coaches wrath

 

[bruinmann77]

Glad they didn't trade Spooner. I felt bad Drew should have had a goal that was robbed tonight

 

[Bruinator]

I hope he keeps it up. But it's going to have to be more than a handful of games for me.
The skill is there - for sure - but lots of players are skilled and can't put in the work and effort to take it to the next level. That's on the player.

Not if the coach is in the player's head. I just don't think you are giving enough credence to this. It has been wide spread for a long time that Julien wasn't using Spooner correctly and since Cassidy has taken over, Spooner was moved backed to centre on the 3rd line and flourished. Not sure why you think this is some odd coincidence?

 

[bruinmann77]

Never ever seen a horn go off twice like that in one period

 

[bruinmann77]

Thanks and thanks EON for posting the video.

Weird.

to bad it was not on the devils 2-1 when they scored

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

I haven't been able to find a Tweet of it, but here is the video on nhl.com https://www.nhl.com/news/bruins-goal-overturned-after-devils-coachs-challenge/c-287384828

Stafford was going for the puck, which was under Schneider's pad. In poking at the puck, he also caught pad.

Watching it in real time, I believe it's a goal.

I really dislike how every time a goal is scored now, especially close in - I have to temper my enthusiasm because of the challenge.

If memory serves, it was a non-call when Dwight King 'interfered' with Lundqvist in the Cup Final in 2014 that got the conversation started on this? Like with the toe nail being offside negating goals, I don't think a league starved for goals envisioned all the ticky-tack things that not only get challenged, but get reversed.

In my opinion, it's a blight on the game.

Thank you for the response and the video.

I tend to use as my BS meter, if it happened the other way around (that was a goal against the Bruins), would I feel it was just?

That's a play I wouldn't have even asked for a review of. Easy call. It's a goal. We've seen that play a hundred times over the years without it being questioned.

A blight is right. I don't understand this call.

 

[Fossy21]

Nice to see stafford has found a new home! Best of luck to that classy dude as well to the Bruins!

Thanks! If he continues to work as hard as he did, he'll have no problem finding a pretty big role here. Will be exciting to follow, hopefully he keeps it up better than some of our other deadline acquisitions of the past. Hopefully the pick will be a 4th rounder.

Thank you for the response and the video.

I tend to use as my BS meter, if it happened the other way around (that was a goal against the Bruins), would I feel it was just?

That's a play I wouldn't have even asked for a review of. Easy call. It's a goal. We've seen that play a hundred times over the years without it being questioned.

A blight is right. I don't understand this call.

I felt as it was scored that it might not be ruled a goal. But when it was and there was no indication from the officials it might not be, I foolishly got my hopes up. Luckily didn't matter, as we still won and Stafford kept playing well and notched his first point on the GWG.

 

[DKH]

Bruins could be 10-0 in Cassidy era

10-0 in eyeball scoring

 

[caz16]

Not the prettiest game but a win against a team with a big losing streak going, and with Dobby in net, is a big two points. As some have said, last season this would have most likely been a loss.

I am impressed with Stafford - always seemed to be in the slot. I hope it continues.

Bruins hockey is fun again!

 

[Fenway]

As I worked tonight, so too did I miss this game.

Why was a goal overturned and was it legit?

At 10:21 of the second period in the Devils/Bruins game, New Jersey requested a Coach's Challenge to review whether Drew Stafford interfered with Devils goaltender Cory Schneider prior to his goal.

After reviewing all available replays and consulting with NHL Hockey Operations staff, the Referee determined that Stafford interfered with Schneider before the puck crossed the goal line. According to Rule 78.7, "The standard for overturning the call in the event of a 'GOAL' call on the ice is that the Referee, after reviewing any and all available replays and consulting with the Toronto Video Room, determines that the goal should have been disallowed due to 'Interference on the Goalkeeper,' as described in Rules 69.1, 69.3 and 69.4."

Therefore the original call is overturned - no goal Boston Bruins.

Since the Coach's Challenge resulted in the original call being overturned, the New Jersey Devils retain their time-out.

https://www.nhl.com/news/bruins-goa...ls-coachs-challenge/c-287384828?tid=277729160

 

[Fenway]