GDT: GAME 57 | Senators @ Predators | Amnesia Edition | Tue Feb 27 8PM | TSN5, RDS2

[Icelevel]

Yeah. Literally the worst GM in pro sports

We are a lucky bunch eh?

 

[ottawagm]

Missed the game tonight but doesn't look pretty. Outshot 19 - 0 in the 3rd? Was Nash that good, or was the team rattled with the Norris injury? We may need to look at a 1/3 Norris buyout this summer if this is another shoulder issue.

 

[6stringmofo]

20-0

I'd like to thank Sheldon Keefe for getting ejected tonight.

The media can focus on that.

 

[Wondercarrot]

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Not really rent free when you spend actual money on tickets though is it…

 

[Gil Gunderson]

We had Joey Daccord & they just let him go for nothing, he was clearly the most confident goalie we have had for some time & they let him go. Why is the goalie coach making these decisions still in the organization, clean house in the summer, get rid of the dead weight.

This team was run like someone who barely watches hockey. Our old goalie coach was on the radio after we signed Matt Murray and he said he told Dorion to sign him because you need to jump on the chance to sign a goalie who won two Cups. We’ve given away two starting goalies to other teams since then.

 

[ottawagm]

No matter how much money he's made, must suck to be done at 24. He's barely even started his career in the scheme of things and should have had another 7-10 years.

He really is lucky he was able to sign that deal when he did. Great job by the agent.

 

[Wallet Inspector]

Starting to feel like our only salvation will be winning 1st overall and drafting Celebrini.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Starting to feel like our only salvation will be winning 1st overall and drafting Celebrini.

He’s going to Buffalo or Chicago because they so badly need another top draft pick.

Also there’s 0% chance this team doesn’t go on a meaninngless winning streak to end the season, only for us to think it will transfer to next season again for some reason.

 

[albator71]

Damn we suck again!! A lot work awaits Staios and company, this team is badly constructed!!

 

[SpezDispenser]

Focus on the defence back.

Torpedo Korpisalo and take the L, look for a goalie who can consistently give you .910 save percentage, get a solid right handed D, trade tarasenko and Chychrun unfortunately, restock the cupboards a bit. Look for a fast, aggressive lw for line 2 - or line 3 if you want Greig in the top six.

Leave the forwards pretty much intact and let them play more comfortably in front of a better, more balanced D and a real goalie.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Pretty crazy Chabot is 27 and has never sniffed the playoffs. Literally has one season above .500.

 

[Xspyrit]

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Don’t have much time these days to finish it all but I have started a research comparison between Mike Milbury and Pierre Dorion and so far it looks like Dorion was a worse GM pretty comfortably

Pretty crazy Chabot is 27 and has never sniffed the playoffs. Literally has one season above .500.

Pretty surprising he has endured all this and hasn’t asked for a trade yet. He must really love this team

 

[mysens]

Focus on the defence back.

Torpedo Korpisalo and take the L, look for a goalie who can consistently give you .910 save percentage, get a solid right handed D, trade tarasenko and Chychrun unfortunately, restock the cupboards a bit. Look for a fast, aggressive lw for line 2 - or line 3 if you want Greig in the top six.

Leave the forwards pretty much intact and let them play more comfortably in front of a better, more balanced D and a real goalie.

How does a new owner who spent a billion dollars just come in here and start buying out 10 month old contracts at over 5 million per for a number of years? As fans its easy to suggest these things, but man, that is a crap load of money for a new business owner. I suppose part of the blame can go to the new ownership group for allowing Dorion and the old group to have free reigns and make the moves this past summer. I would have thought as a new owner coming in they would have put a moratorium and block all future moves until the keys are turned over. Many deals are constructed this way until full ownership transfer is completed. Maybe Andlauer and group will have to take this buyout of Korpisalo as a severe cost of doing business and a mistake on their part of tightening the leash on Dorion.

 

[bert]

How does a new owner who spent a billion dollars just come in here and start buying out 10 month old contracts at over 5 million per for a number of years? As fans its easy to suggest these things, but man, that is a crap load of money for a new business owner. I suppose part of the blame can go to the new ownership group for allowing Dorion and the old group to have free reigns and make the moves this past summer. I would have thought as a new owner coming in they would have put a moratorium and block all future moves until the keys are turned over. Many deals are constructed this way until full ownership transfer is completed. Maybe Andlauer and group will have to take this buyout of Korpisalo as a severe cost of doing business and a mistake on their part of tightening the leash on Dorion.

How would they have had control exactly?... They didn't own the team...... Also if they are spending to the cap then the hit isn't big at all as they only have so much room to spend. They also only have to buy out 1/3rd if they do it now. It's not a severe cost at all and again how on earth would they have had any leash?...... I actually can't believe someone is blaming the new ownership haha. WILD!

 

[Alex1234]

Pretty crazy Chabot is 27 and has never sniffed the playoffs. Literally has one season above .500.

His puck watching on the Nyquist goal was something
It's like he has these moments of total absence
-3 last night
Bad game


Overall that 3rd period was disgusting after the Washington effort

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

They traded him didn't they for an old goalie. Obviously didn't have enough faith in him.

Selected by Seattle in expansion draft, from the Senators unprotected list

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

How does a new owner who spent a billion dollars just come in here and start buying out 10 month old contracts at over 5 million per for a number of years? As fans its easy to suggest these things, but man, that is a crap load of money for a new business owner. I suppose part of the blame can go to the new ownership group for allowing Dorion and the old group to have free reigns and make the moves this past summer. I would have thought as a new owner coming in they would have put a moratorium and block all future moves until the keys are turned over. Many deals are constructed this way until full ownership transfer is completed. Maybe Andlauer and group will have to take this buyout of Korpisalo as a severe cost of doing business and a mistake on their part of tightening the leash on Dorion

Andlauer, and the rest of the ownership group, did not take control of the franchise, until they did.

So the previous owners (M Sisters) had a three person board running the franchise, that the GM reported to and had to have them sign off on trades and UFA signings.

Franchises put up for sale, do NOT suspend daily operations, they keep operating as they see fit.

Sure it is popular to pile of the signings and trades on the previous GM, instead of the three person board that he had to get approval from, but what were they, and the GM supposed to do?
Suspend hockey operations, and NOT bring in a replacement for Talbot, and start the Season with a NHL backup (Forsberg)as their starter, and an unproved AHLer as the back up?

I would be very surprised if the rookie GM recommends a buyout of Korpisalo… Andlauer and the rest of the ownership group don’t have bottomless pockets, and there are other ways to rectify the goaltending if that is the route the rookie GM identifies as a weakness that has to be addressed.

There is no rush to ship out Korpisalo “ no matter the cost”, if a change is seen as nessasary, then they can wait for the right trading partner, at the right time… that could be as soon as the trade deadline if a contender has a starter or back up go down for the season, during the offseason, or at any point during next season banking on Korpisalo’s stock rising with improved play by the team as a whole.

 

[Alex1234]

Andlauer, and the rest of the ownership group, did not take control of the franchise, until they did.

So the previous owners (M Sisters) had a three person board running the franchise, that the GM reported to and had to have them sign off on trades and UFA signings.

Franchises put up for sale, do NOT suspend daily operations, they keep operating as they see fit.

Sure it is popular to pile of the signings and trades on the previous GM, instead of the three person board that he had to get approval from, but what were they, and the GM supposed to do?
Suspend hockey operations, and NOT bring in a replacement for Talbot, and start the Season with a NHL backup (Forsberg)as their starter, and an unproved AHLer as the back up?

I would be very surprised if the rookie GM recommends a buyout of Korpisalo… Andlauer and the rest of the ownership group don’t have bottomless pockets, and there are other ways to rectify the goaltending if that is the route the rookie GM identifies as a weakness that has to be addressed.

There is no rush to ship out Korpisalo “ no matter the cost”, if a change is seen as nessasary, then they can wait for the right trading partner, at the right time… that could be as soon as the trade deadline if a contender has a starter or back up go down for the season, during the offseason, or at any point during next season banking on Korpisalo’s stock rising with improved play by the team as a whole.

necessary

 

[Very Stable Genius]

Love the hard-hitting questions from Gord after the game, "Safe to say you guys left it out there tonight?" ROFL

 

[Micklebot]

How does a new owner who spent a billion dollars just come in here and start buying out 10 month old contracts at over 5 million per for a number of years? As fans its easy to suggest these things, but man, that is a crap load of money for a new business owner. I suppose part of the blame can go to the new ownership group for allowing Dorion and the old group to have free reigns and make the moves this past summer. I would have thought as a new owner coming in they would have put a moratorium and block all future moves until the keys are turned over. Many deals are constructed this way until full ownership transfer is completed. Maybe Andlauer and group will have to take this buyout of Korpisalo as a severe cost of doing business and a mistake on their part of tightening the leash on Dorion.

Ok, so you buy a house, it's a million dollars, and the previous owners built a big deck that wraps around the house, looks great

But you move in and start noticing issues with the deck, the wood used wasn't pressure treated, and the foundation was mixed properly and is turning to dust. Structurally it is unsafe, so what do you do, you tear it down and start again, it will cost 20k to build it right but if you want to have that dream house you thought you were getting that's what it will take. The alternative is living with a death trap waiting to go off. It's a sunk cost so you do what it's the right decision moving forward,

In the end, the buyout doesn't change how much you budget on the roster that much, you're still stuck with 2/3s of the cap hit, mind you spread out over twice the term, so you can't spend as much on the 23 roster players as you otherwise could, that "savings" offsets the cost of the buyout, the damage is your roster isn't as competitive as it would be without that dead cap space on the books.

 

[HF Reader]

How would they have had control exactly?... They didn't own the team...... Also if they are spending to the cap then the hit isn't big at all as they only have so much room to spend. They also only have to buy out 1/3rd if they do it now. It's not a severe cost at all and again how on earth would they have had any leash?...... I actually can't believe someone is blaming the new ownership haha. WILD!

I don't know the specific answer to your question about control but I recall Dorion thanking the board for allowing the Chychrun trade, suggesting some authorization protocol. (I'm not blaming new ownership).

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

We're 27th in the standings. Management need to be taking the longer term view here.

What do they need Chychrun for? To help them push to pick 9th or some shit?

We don't need him...we need a true top 4 RD.

But....it's also getting to the point where we might have to wonder about the long-term health of Chabot, too. Our kids are dropping like rocks.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Missed the game tonight but doesn't look pretty. Outshot 19 - 0 in the 3rd? Was Nash that good, or was the team rattled with the Norris injury? We may need to look at a 1/3 Norris buyout this summer if this is another shoulder issue.

Can you buyout a player if they're on LTIR? (That's if the injury last night was really that bad.)

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

 

[SensontheRush]

Thanks @Coffee