Post-Game Talk: GAME #54 - 148 weeks and 4 days since B's have beaten Caps | Washington 5 BRUINS 3 F

[Gee Wally]

Bruins Are Just One Line Team

The Bruins are taxing Tuukka Rask. They are leaning heavily on Brad Marchand, Patrice Bergeron, and David Pastrnak. They do not have reliable offensive chain-pullers outside of their first line.

These are not foreign concepts.

On Wednesday, the Bruins had little choice but to start Rask for a second straight night. The ace was coming off an 18-save performance against Tampa Bay. The Bruins were playing Braden Holtby and the fearsome Capitals. Washington can light up goalies with ease, especially a kid like Zane McIntyre with an .860 save percentage..............

The Bruins would be in far better shape if their supporting actors could lend a regular hand.


http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/b...eary-bruins/zQsHgfQkJZ8fn00B65QgfO/story.html

 

[ReggieMoto]

The Bruins are taxing Tuukka Rask. They are leaning heavily on Brad Marchand, Patrice Bergeron, and David Pastrnak. They do not have reliable offensive chain-pullers outside of their first line.

And the solution we're told is to fire the coach.

 

[22Brad Park]

Brought back down to earth. You knew with this team that it was going to happen sooner or later.

We still are not build to beat the teams that have our number. The Canadiens, the Caps, you can count them as automatic losses.

This team has remained stagnant for too long. It's time for changes. I'm all about cleaning house at the end of this season. Because this lingering mediocrity cannot stand, it's gonna start stinking soon!

I disagree on habs part but not building part for Bruins.Last two times Bruins played Habs they lost one in last miniute and won the other game ,Habs to me are not near as good as most think.And that Weber deal is going to bite them hard in 2 or 3 years time.He slowing down now ,Pp is where he scores a difference .

 

[TMac21]

There are some positive signs now that they have a healthy line up, notably the goal scoring, but the test will be if they can build consistency into their overall game.

 

[ODAAT]

There are some positive signs now that they have a healthy line up, notably the goal scoring, but the test will be if they can build consistency into their overall game.

still getting next to nothing from the 3/4th lines

 

[Hamilton Brian]

still getting next to nothing from the 3/4th lines

That's what's going to kill any chances this team has to succeed.

 

[missingchicklet]

Bruins Are Just One Line Team

The Bruins are taxing Tuukka Rask. They are leaning heavily on Brad Marchand, Patrice Bergeron, and David Pastrnak. They do not have reliable offensive chain-pullers outside of their first line.

These are not foreign concepts.

On Wednesday, the Bruins had little choice but to start Rask for a second straight night. The ace was coming off an 18-save performance against Tampa Bay. The Bruins were playing Braden Holtby and the fearsome Capitals. Washington can light up goalies with ease, especially a kid like Zane McIntyre with an .860 save percentage..............

The Bruins would be in far better shape if their supporting actors could lend a regular hand.


http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/b...eary-bruins/zQsHgfQkJZ8fn00B65QgfO/story.html

Not sure how some people who are always *****ing about the coach cannot understand this concept. This team would be in a pretty good spot right now if the Bs had even a mediocre backup goalie. They would have more points and they would not have to wear Rask down yet again. The Bs are now in a situation where they absolutely have to lean heavily on Rask if they have any hope of making the playoffs. Management failed to bring in a reliable backup before the season began. It failed to bring one in even after the backups were stinking it up multiple games in a row. And they still are failing to bring one in when it's beyond obvious they need one. Backup goalies who are average are not hard to come by. And then throw in the horrific production on the roster below the first line. Again, management failed to assemble a competent roster It failed to address clear holes in the roster. And it continues to sit on its hands and watch this trainwreck of a bottom 9 flounder.

 

[Absurdity]

still getting next to nothing from the 3/4th lines

They aren't getting much from the 2nd line either. Sure Krejci finds ways to produce, but as a cohesive unit, there's nothing there 5 on 5 in my opinion. I'm still surprised Claude has Backes and Krejci on the same line. He should move Backes to the 3rd line to get that line going as well.

 

[LSCII]

Not sure how some people who are always *****ing about the coach cannot understand this concept. This team would be in a pretty good spot right now if the Bs had even a mediocre backup goalie. They would have more points and they would not have to wear Rask down yet again. The Bs are now in a situation where they absolutely have to lean heavily on Rask if they have any hope of making the playoffs. Management failed to bring in a reliable backup before the season began. It failed to bring one in even after the backups were stinking it up multiple games in a row. And they still are failing to bring one in when it's beyond obvious they need one. Backup goalies who are average are not hard to come by. And then throw in the horrific production on the roster below the first line. Again, management failed to assemble a competent roster It failed to address clear holes in the roster. And it continues to sit on its hands and watch this trainwreck of a bottom 9 flounder.

Because the backup goalie would need to put up a .930 SV% just to keep this team in the game, and that's not really a backup goalie if they're doing that? And guess what? If Tuukka doesn't do that, they usually lose too. It's not about the backup goalie. It's about this team sucking at scoring goals and the coaching staff not adjusting the focal point of the offense away from the defense and onto the forwards. But yeah, it's really all the fault of a position that's started all of 11 games this year.

In other words, people need to stop drinking the kool aid Claude is selling about the backup goalie being the problem. It's not. It's his lack of ability to adjust the system to fit his roster. Like it has been since he got here. And last year. And the year before. And the year before in the playoffs. How long do we absolve the guy when the offense is still being set up by the cycle back to the point? I mean, jesus, this is insane.

 

[LSCII]

And the solution we're told is to fire the coach.

So you honestly don't think the offense could be even slightly more dynamic if they stopped trying to cycle it back to the point for a 45 foot unscreened wrister with nobody crashing? Isn't that coaching? Why no adjustment? If the guy is so good, why sit there and do nothing? Shouldn't a great coach have an answer? Shouldn't a great coach have figured out it's not working and done something by now? I mean, this team is 23rd in goals for per game and has been all season long. Yet no answers, no adjustments. Well, unless you consider Tim Schaller getting PP TOI a reasonable adjustment to counter the lack of scoring...

 

[TheReal13Linseman]

Because the backup goalie would need to put up a .930 SV% just to keep this team in the game, and that's not really a backup goalie if they're doing that? And guess what? If Tuukka doesn't do that, they usually lose too. It's not about the backup goalie. It's about this team sucking at scoring goals and the coaching staff not adjusting the focal point of the offense away from the defense and onto the forwards. But yeah, it's really all the fault of a position that's started all of 11 games this year.

In other words, people need to stop drinking the kool aid Claude is selling about the backup goalie being the problem. It's not. It's his lack of ability to adjust the system to fit his roster. Like it has been since he got here. And last year. And the year before. And the year before in the playoffs. How long do we absolve the guy when the offense is still being set up by the cycle back to the point? I mean, jesus, this is insane.

If this were true, teams would just need to go out and find the best coach they can and not worry so much about the skill of the players on the team; that a good coach could always overcome such deficiencies by formulating and implementing a good system. You see the same sort of hogwash in modern management texts wherein the blame is put on the manager for not "getting the most" out of his/her people, even though many of them may be lazy rabble.

But that's not how life works. The sad fact is that skill/drive/ability/desire does matter. Great coaches (as Claude is) still need quality players with those attributes. The Bruins have too few of them at the moment...and it's not Claude's fault.

 

[LSCII]

If this were true, teams would just need to go out and find the best coach they can and not worry so much about the skill of the players on the team; that a good coach could always overcome such deficiencies by formulating and implementing a good system. You see the same sort of hogwash in modern management texts wherein the blame is put on the manager for not "getting the most" out of his/her people, even though many of them may be lazy rabble.

But that's not how life works. The sad fact is that skill/drive/ability/desire does matter. Great coaches (as Claude is) still need quality players with those attributes. The Bruins have too few of them at the moment...and it's not Claude's fault.

Of course that's true. You do need skill and speed and a myriad of other attributes. But that argument doesn't help Claude when you see his track record for picking grinders and slugs over better options with offensive upside, just because he feels they execute in the system better. They're not. They don't. In fact they're the problem. Yet we get Riley Nash rolled out game after game, despite there being zero hope of his contributing offensively. We get Kevan Miller, JML, and McQuaid over any young offensive minded d man game after game. I mean how long did Hayes get to suck before finally getting a seat? Tim Schaller got PP toi this year, ffs.

The lines are constantly being made just to balance and offset a perceived deficiency, while not getting that your top 6 should all be players than can contribute offensively. The goal of the offense is to cycle it back to a point, yet they don't have offensive d men that can actually contribute, but they still do it.

To net it out, the decisions Claude makes are impacting this team in a negative way, yet all we get from him is that the problem is the back up freaking goalie. It's absurd. And even worse is that people buy it and accept it as gospel. It's not. He's part of the problem. Just like Sweeney dealing NHL roster players for futures is part of the problem. It's all relative.

 

[mmk]

They aren't getting much from the 2nd line either. Sure Krejci finds ways to produce, but as a cohesive unit, there's nothing there 5 on 5 in my opinion. I'm still surprised Claude has Backes and Krejci on the same line. He should move Backes to the 3rd line to get that line going as well.

This, in my opinion, has been Claude's most egregious mistake this season. I understand that Backes is a 'top 6' guy but he and DK just don't have any chemistry. Not to mention the fact that 42 is a natural center and so he will probably play better than he has at wing. Just make a 2a line and 2b line, mixing and matching vatrano, spoons, beleskey, and Czarnik/Schaller. This will also help take pressure off of each guy individually since either one can have an off night and we can at least still have 2 threatening forward lines.

 

[Spanky185]

If this were true, teams would just need to go out and find the best coach they can and not worry so much about the skill of the players on the team; that a good coach could always overcome such deficiencies by formulating and implementing a good system. You see the same sort of hogwash in modern management texts wherein the blame is put on the manager for not "getting the most" out of his/her people, even though many of them may be lazy rabble.

But that's not how life works. The sad fact is that skill/drive/ability/desire does matter. Great coaches (as Claude is) still need quality players with those attributes. The Bruins have too few of them at the moment...and it's not Claude's fault.

Captains have always been responsible for the actions of their crew. The same dogma applies to managers and the employees they oversee.