Post-Game Talk: GAME 44 - Tampa 4 BRUINS 1

[PatriceBergeronFan]

I'm scared shitless anytime the Bruins play Carolina and they don't fight or hit anyone. They just use their speed to forecheck and pressure you relentlessly. 1200 hits this year for the Bruins compared to 800 for Carolina. 15 fights to 1.

Speed and relentless pursuit of the puck is what intimidates today. Not big hits and fights.

On Tuesday Kastelic laid out an Oiler with a big open ice hit early in the game. Elias flattened I believe it was Ekholm with a big hit down in the corner. Zadorov practically took Skinner's head off. None of it mattered, they still laid an egg and got embarrassed for 60 minutes.

That forecheck includes consistent hitting as well. Exactly what the Bruins are missing. The waves of consistent physical hitting on a non existent forcheck.

I agree about Carolina. But they are hitting, and hitting high/heavy/hard. That may defend my point in fact. No player is afraid of a Frederic hit. There is no intimidating, just stat collecting.

 

[Olden McGroin]

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Seeing as the whole point of my post was around taller players taking longer to develop, that's the only comparison I brought to the table. No where did I say Lohrei would become Chara. Tage Thompson and Lohrei don't even play the same position, but I brought him up as another example of a tall player taking time to develop.

There are also tall players like Carlo & Zadorov who step right into the NHL at ages 20 and 19.

 

[BruinDust]

That forecheck includes consistent hitting as well. Exactly what the Bruins are missing. The waves of consistent physical hitting on a non existent forcheck.

I agree about Carolina. But they are hitting, and hitting high/heavy/hard. That may defend my point in fact. No player is afraid of a Frederic hit. There is no intimidating, just stat collecting.

They've gone back to a passive 1-4 forecheck most of the time. I think they wanted to go to a more aggressive forechecking scheme before Monty was canned, but it was a failure. They didn't have the horses up front to play that game. The 4th line did, because the 3 of them (Koepke/Kastelic/Beecher) are all strong skaters and good forecheckers.

The top 3 lines were just too slow as a group to play a fast heavy forechecking style like a Carolina or Florida.

 

[DKH]

And it's only 30th beacuse they demoted Poitras. Before that they were 32nd.

You sticking around through the rebuild

I worked as a Seer in Salem back in the days of Lori Cabot and Jake ‘Frankenstein’ Lowenstein.

I still got it -and I’m seeing 2031 next playoff spot

Been a lot of fun last 25 years here so 6 years isn’t bad

 

[Boston Bandit]

Is anyone listening to a 98.5 right now?

Felger & Mazz talking about issues in the locker room.

Felger ripping into Pasta saying he is not watching the Bruins again until he is traded

Where did they get this Pasta refusing to play on a line with Brad Marchand from?

 

[TCB]

Is anyone listening to a 98.5 right now?

Felger & Mazz talking about issues in the locker room.

All the Canuck talk is bringing their locker room to Boston. Lol

 

[Bruinfanatic]

Is anyone listening to a 98.5 right now?

Felger & Mazz talking about issues in the locker room.

Felger ripping into Pasta saying he is not watching the Bruins again until he is traded

Where did they get this Pasta refusing to play on a line with Brad Marchand from?

This guy whoever he is https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http...IGKez5-6uKMwUTWzET7KbR-2PBAB_RkxB0cOuBsVcsQvb

 

[Alicat]

Is anyone listening to a 98.5 right now?

Felger & Mazz talking about issues in the locker room.

Felger ripping into Pasta saying he is not watching the Bruins again until he is traded

Where did they get this Pasta refusing to play on a line with Brad Marchand from?

The sad part is a large part of the fanbase actually believes it.

They made shit up. The two dingbats who started the rumor are desperate to be relevant and Felger and Mazz are nothing but trolls who already hate Pasta.

 

[BruinDust]

This might be the best thing to happen to the Bruins.

Start the game Saturday with Pasta and Marchand on the same line. And then lay the boots to the Panthers and stick it up Rich Keefe's butthole.

 

[ON3M4N]

There are also tall players like Carlo & Zadorov who step right into the NHL at ages 20 and 19.

Zadorov wasn't great when he first started in the NHL. Carlo was solid from the start which was impressive

 

[Alicat]

 

[Ladyfan]

This might be the best thing to happen to the Bruins.

Start the game Saturday with Pasta and Marchand on the same line. And then lay the boots to the Panthers and stick it up Rich Keefe's butthole.

Excellent post

 

[22Brad Park]

This might be the best thing to happen to the Bruins.

Start the game Saturday with Pasta and Marchand on the same line. And then lay the boots to the Panthers and stick it up Rich Keefe's butthole.

Best thing to happen would be find right guy to bring this back to Cup relevance and start the long process of doing it.Just spinning wheels now delaying inevitable

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Zadorov wasn't great when he first started in the NHL. Carlo was solid from the start which was impressive

Zadorov first started in the NHL at age 18, not 23.

 

[ON3M4N]

Zadorov first started in the NHL at age 18, not 23.

Correct, but he still didn't develop into the player he is today until he was ~26yr old.

 

[Roll 4 Lines]

Outstanding! Atta boy, Captain!

 

[Boston Bandit]

The sad part is a large part of the fanbase actually believes it.

They made shit up. The two dingbats who started the rumor are desperate to be relevant and Felger and Mazz are nothing but trolls who already hate Pasta.

I know, I can’t stand these two clowns, but was flipping through the stations and heard them talking about the Bruins

 

[Alicat]

I know, I can’t stand these two clowns, but was flipping through the stations and heard them talking about the Bruins

I didn't mean to lump you in b/c that wasn't my intention. It is just another sad reminder of how easy it is to make something up and then it blows up and is treated as fact. Going after Pasta and Marchand is a new low. You don't have to be a diehard to know this is bs.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Correct, but he still didn't develop into the player he is today until he was ~26yr old.

I wouldn't say that.

When he was 23 in Colorado he played 70games, 7-7-14 +19 228 hits.

Only McKinnon had a higher plus/minus on the Avs with a +20. No one close to that many hits.

 

[Bruinfanatic]

Correct, but he still didn't develop into the player he is today until he was ~26yr old.

Correct, but he still didn't develop into the player he is today until he was ~26yr old.

Defenceman normally do take longer to mature into the position,not sure if there height has much to do with anything,6’4,6’5 is kind of becoming the norm anymore.

 

[ON3M4N]

Defenceman normally do take longer to mature into the position,not sure if there height has much to do with anything,6’4,6’5 is kind of becoming the norm anymore.

Not sure I'd call it a norm. There are only 41 NHL d-men that have played at least 30 games this season and are 6'4+ Seeing as there are 6 starting d-men per team, that puts it at roughly 20% of NHL d-men are 6'4+

I wouldn't say that.

When he was 23 in Colorado he played 70games, 7-7-14 +19 228 hits.

Only McKinnon had a higher plus/minus on the Avs with a +20. No one close to that many hits.

I don't know that I'd agree, but just so we don't have a continuous loop leading to nowhere I'll say fine. There are examples of some bigger guys being good in the NHL at a younger age. Zadorov also had close to 300 games of NHL experience under him before he started to figure it out

 

[Dr Hook]

I’m 100% for a new GM for selfish point of view - I want to see who this savior is

And it will be nice to be the one trashing and criticizing all his moves

Any idea who’s out there we are getting

Also the Pasta - Marchand stuff makes a lot of sense now

Clearly something happened

If they don’t start winning they need to move back and show the under 35 crowd what it was like around 1996-1998

All satire aside, do you think there's no one in the hockey world that could do a better job? Maybe there isn't, but sooner or later we'll find out. The days of the Sinden type tenure are long past. 96-98 were ass, and they had some decent teams after that, but the early 2000s were not so hot either. I'd prefer not to revisit those times, but pro sports being so cyclical it's hard to imagine it won't happen- it might be happening now.

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

Fire Sweeney and Neely after the 4 Nation useless shit.

 

[smithformeragent]

Bruins notebook: With losses piling up, team at a crossroads

The Bruins are not a real contender. That brings upper management to some hard decisions

www.bostonherald.com

Just like when he took over the Bruins a decade ago, GM Don Sweeney and his team are at a crossroads.

The B’s have not experienced seas this rough since 2015, the last time they suffered a six-game losing streak. This current one is in grave danger of stretching to seven on Saturday when they face the defending Stanley Cup champions in Florida. Call up the NHL standings and they’ll show you the Bruins are in the playoff bracket, but not really, not when you factor in points percentage and games in hand, which all the teams behind them have on the B’s.

The promise of a suffocating, defensively sound team that will win a bunch of 2-1 and 3-2 games has not been kept. They are 29th in goals per game (2.55), 21st in goals against per game (3.16), 31st in power play (12..2%) and 25th in penalty kill (75.9%).