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Post-Game Talk: GAME 44 - Tampa 4 BRUINS 1

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Babajingo said:
I, for some reason, put the B's in a group with the Caps and Pens. All 3 are struggling to stay relevant. I know Wash is doing real well, but their core is getting old. Same with Pitt.
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Pens won three Cups which makes this fall to mediocrity easier to swallow. At least they cashed in on their opportunities. However, they mismanaged the retool and appear stuck.

Washington took the longest to break through and get their Cup. Took a brief nosedive, but appear back. For how long remains to be seen.

Bruins, there’s no sense beating a dead horse here.

The only question now is whether management stands by and allows the team to continue to freefall through the standings, or they make a trade to either injection life into this club, or start the process of retooling/rebuilding.
 
BruinDust said:
They are still in better shape than Detroit was post Zetterberg/Datsyuk.

The right coach and GM can re-tool this. Problem is, those men aren't Joe Sacco and Don Sweeney.
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Are there moves to be made on this roster, which enable them to be competitive?

You don’t want to make a move in desperation and get fleeced. But you also don’t want to be dear in the headlights and wet an opportunity to write the ship pass you buy because you were too fearful to pull the trigger.

Then, can the right coach come in and win with a core of Pastrnak, McAvoy, and call it E. Lindholm, Zadorov, and H. Lindholm?

Or is that avenue dead in the water, and you need to look at bigger changes?
 
smithformeragent said:
Pens won three Cups which makes this fall to mediocrity easier to swallow. At least they cashed in on their opportunities. However, they mismanaged the retool and appear stuck.

Washington took the longest to break through and get their Cup. Took a brief nosedive, but appear back. For how long remains to be seen.

Bruins, there’s no sense beating a dead horse here.

The only question now is whether management stands by and allows the team to continue to freefall through the standings, or they make a trade to either injection life into this club, or start the process of retooling/rebuilding.
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Retooling with trades will be challenging. You need a trade partner and a fair exchange. Other GMs will smell blood in the water with a six game losing streak and make this harder on us.
 
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smithformeragent said:
Are there moves to be made on this roster, which enable them to be competitive?

You don’t want to make a move in desperation and get fleeced. But you also don’t want to be dear in the headlights and wet an opportunity to write the ship pass you buy because you were too fearful to pull the trigger.

Then, can the right coach come in and win with a core of Pastrnak, McAvoy, and call it E. Lindholm, Zadorov, and H. Lindholm?

Or is that avenue dead in the water, and you need to look at bigger changes?
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I would rather try to make it work with the guys we have before getting fleeced. That is a leadership challenge, but the players are all in the NHL. Looks like some forgot how to play. I spent 30 years in the Army. When I was a Captain, I had another Captain working for me who was not working out at the time and I asked my boss, a Lieutenant Colonel, for a new guy. He said, “You are not getting a new guy. That is not what you are paid for. As a leader, if you have someone who is not working out, you have to lead and develop them to the point where they do. Go do that.” Early lesson for me. Same principle applies here.
 
bruins19 said:
Retooling with trades will be challenging. You need a trade partner and a fair exchange. Other GMs will smell blood in the water with a six game losing streak and make this harder on us.
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A general manager does desperate things sometimes when their job is on the line.

They’ve already fired the coach. Who is next to go, assuming things continue to spiral and this ends in a DNQ?

And what is that person willing to do to prevent that? Will ownership step in and veto the spending of assets?
 
smithformeragent said:
Are there moves to be made on this roster, which enable them to be competitive?

You don’t want to make a move in desperation and get fleeced. But you also don’t want to be dear in the headlights and wet an opportunity to write the ship pass you buy because you were too fearful to pull the trigger.

Then, can the right coach come in and win with a core of Pastrnak, McAvoy, and call it E. Lindholm, Zadorov, and H. Lindholm?

Or is that avenue dead in the water, and you need to look at bigger changes?
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The problem IMO is they already made their bed. Hard to do a full rebuild with those 3 albatross contracts on the books for years to come. Once they went all in on Elias and Zadorov, the decision was made. I don't know if any of them are moveable. Maybe Zadorov but he has a no-move this year and a full no-trade next year and he's been OK here. I can't see any GM watching what Elias is bringing and activity saying they want the next 6 years of that.

Almost seems pointless to move a Pasta or McAvoy or Swayman to start a tear down rebuild with those other contracts hanging around their necks.

It might take this season and all of next season to work it all out. A call-up here, a trade there, a signing here.

The futures of Marchand, Coyle, Frederic, Brazeau and Carlo should be where their focus is.

Problem is I think the vision of Sweeney and Neely is completely flawed.
 
smithformeragent said:
We’ve gotten very used to watching playoff hockey in April, and sometimes into May and June.

The reality is that, in a 32 team league, half the clubs miss the playoffs.
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We've become desensitized of what a good game is by our guys.
Ray or Cam a few decades ago would have a 2-3 point game and it was deemed a good game.
These days we're down to a guy like Beecher who some are saying had a "good game" ( even Brick said it) but didn't get a point. Two very good scoring chances, nothing to show for it.
Now we're happy guys just show up.
 
smithformeragent said:
Pens won three Cups which makes this fall to mediocrity easier to swallow. At least they cashed in on their opportunities. However, they mismanaged the retool and appear stuck.

Washington took the longest to break through and get their Cup. Took a brief nosedive, but appear back. For how long remains to be seen.

Bruins, there’s no sense beating a dead horse here.

The only question now is whether management stands by and allows the team to continue to freefall through the standings, or they make a trade to either injection life into this club, or start the process of retooling/rebuilding.
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The fear for me is Sweeney trading off 1st round picks again to try and revive a dead horse.
 
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