GDT: Game #43: Montreal vs Utah HC - 7:00pm MST - Utah16, Arizona61

[Jakey53]

What should BA do differently?

Again, I didn't start following the team until this offseason, but looking at the draft since he took over, at least in the first 2 rounds, he's done pretty well over all and there doesn't seem to be any big misses so far given their position.

He made some solid moves to rebuild the defense but the team has had some brutal injury luck. Having Durzi/Marino all year I think would have made a big difference.

Is Sergachev a super high end #1D? No, but he does a good job overall and those guys are impossibly difficult to acquire and so far it looks to have been a good trade.

My biggest gripe would be the overall roster construction and general lack of identity. I can see what the idea was so a lot of this is on the players under performing (3rd line specifically) but they lack a true #1C. Cooley is doing well overall but he's still 21 and Hayton seems to be a 3C at best so you really have limited C depth. Layer in the overall miserable performance of the 3rd line for most of the year and you can see why the team struggles. So yes, that's on BA but from what I've heard the 3rd line last year was dominate so why change it?

I'm not trying to be a big BA defender or say he's done everything right because at the end of the day the roster construction is on him, but I lay blame more at the feet of AT for the way the team has played. We constantly seem to come out flat, the line combos have made no sense at times, and the penalties are often lazy and undisciplined. We don't play with any real bite or physicallity except to match what other teams are doing to us which often leads to more undisciplined penalties. Despite the stats, the Power play is anemic at best and they can't seem to hold ANY zone time.

The new team/city and NHL in Utah has worn off for me. I'm invested and officially frustrated with this team and what feels like a lack of bringing their best night in and night out. That's a coaching/player issue. If you are going to make a change, it's at coach before you replace the GM and I'd be curious to see how the team would respond. I'm not saying it's time to make a change, you need to be patient given the injuries, but if you bring AT back next year and they struggle again you gotta make a move.

Oh and if Delta could figure out how to run a f***ing in arena expierence that would be great too. The players sing our praises, but as a season ticket holder the crowd feels quiet far too often. Last night you could finally feel the frustration coming out. The music is horrendous and they do so little to get the crowd fired up when it's quiet. Lot's of room for improvement there in my opinion. Great example was the Veggie Penalty shot save. Crowd starts a veggie chant but the DJ is playing some dumbass song at full volume that drowned everyone out and they are doing random crowd shots on the screen. Perfect change to put "Veg-y" on the big board and get the crowd chanting in unison.

Good post

 

[SjMilhouse]

Good post

Thanks, I've been pretty quiet on this sub forum because it's not super active and I'm still a die hard Sharks fan so I can only do so much HFBoards in a day...but the last few home games have broken me and so it felt like a good time to emotionally post after that game last night.

 

[Jakey53]

BA took over a a team with a .527 win percentage, 5 years later, this season, we are at .50 win percentage, I think there should be more progress by now. BA wasted the first year evaluating, didn't do anything, then he took a year to trade OEL, and almost 2 years to trade Chych. These decisions pushed the rebuild back by 18-24 months. If this was year 3 of the rebuild, we are on course, its not.

It's great that we have all this young talent developing but we also gave up, Geekie, Moser, Garland, Chych, DVO and Ghost. We gave up plenty of talent to get what we have today. Is the potential talent we have better, no doubt it is, how much better is up for debate.

Our play right now is not good, 2-9 last 11 games at a critical point in the year. Is it the players not performing, easy to blame them. Is it coaching, lots of penalties when guys are behind the play, line combinations, etc. Or, is it lack of talent and a misconstructed roster.

BA says we are exactly where we should be, we are young and still growing, we have had injuries. I am not so sure of that. I think it might be cover for BA just like it takes 8-10 years to build a championship contender. No other team would stand for a GM with 5 years in a row of no playoffs and a coach with 4 years in a row of no playoffs, they would both be fired.

I think the owner and team President need to take a hard look at the results and progress of the BA/Bear show this summer. I am mixed on both, the results so far are not in their favor, I don't think either is great and I don't think they are bad for sure either, lots of factors to look at in these decisions.

I say let the year play out. Give them lots of rope. See if we have any cream in the organization.

Thanks, I've been pretty quiet on this sub forum because it's not super active and I'm still a die hard Sharks fan so I can only do so much HFBoards in a day...but the last few home games have broken me and so it felt like a good time to emotionally post after that game last night.

How do you think most feel in Arizona after 20 yrs. of futility.

 

[SjMilhouse]

I say let the year play out. Give them lots of rope. See if we have any cream in the organization.


How do you think most feel in Arizona after 20 yrs. of futility.

I can't imagine. I used to joke on the Sharks board that none of the posters could actually handle a true rebuild. Then we blew it up and we already have people who are frustrated and it's like...guys we are in year 2 of a full tear down, have some patience it will be better in the long run than trying to rush it and ending up like Buffalo. You need several top 3-5 picks or some insane luck in the later rounds/via trade which is far less likely than hitting on a few cornerstone draft picks.