Post-Game Talk: GAME 42 - Fishsticks 5 BRUINS 4 OT

[Aussie Bruin]

Zadorov is precisely the guy I thought we were getting when we signed him.

There’s a lot I like about his game.

There are also many times a game where he leaves his brain on the bench when he hits the ice.

If the team was more successful, the errors would be easier to forgive and we’d be able to more easily focus on the positives he brings.

Is the overall negativity primarily directed at Zadorov, or the decision to sign him when the flaws on the roster elsewhere should have been addressed? And like or not, he’s going to associated with the Lindholm signing as a package deal which overall has been disastrous.

Sure it’s a little unfair. But it’s also not without warrant.

Yeah the latter for me, not so much purely in terms of signing him at all, but for that much money when he's not worth that much and there were important needs elsewhere not being addressed.

Zadorov is an ok player that you summed up well. He's playing pretty much how you would expect. The issue lies with his contact, both individually and in terms of how it sits within the roster and cap as a whole.

 

[yazmybaby]

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Finally...some competition!!!!
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We will be lucky to get 5 points in our next 5 games.
Call up Merk and Lysell, sit Beecher and Wally.

 

[22Brad Park]

This is the problem with being an in-between team. We'll likely be just good enough to get into the post season or at least be in the mix so we'll waste more assets bringing in pieces that won't help but not remotely good enough to get out of the first round if we get in. This team is so poorly built and has nothing at all coming up the pipeline. Not good times to be a B's fan.

Would you guys rather we squeak in or noticeably fall out to force some real change with this team?

I agree here 100% .They should be thinking rebuild but they don't have the stones for it..

Yeah the latter for me, not so much purely in terms of signing him at all, but for that much money when he's not worth that much and there were important needs elsewhere not being addressed.

Zadorov is an ok player that you summed up well. He's playing pretty much how you would expect. The issue lies with his contact, both individually and in terms of how it sits within the roster and cap as a whole.

Bruins are playing him on the top pair which to me is nuts.He is beyond slow moving pucks and him and McAvoy are always fighting it paired together & I don't care what the numbers say I am not blind.

 

[Boston Bandit]

 

[Aussie Bruin]

I agree here 100% .They should be thinking rebuild but they don't have the stones for it..


Bruins are playing him on the top pair which to me is nuts.He is beyond slow moving pucks and him and McAvoy are always fighting it paired together & I don't care what the numbers say I am not blind.

Zadorov was signed by Sweeny to mostly play top pair. When you look at his contract and the composition of the rest of the D corps, there can be no other conclusion. Whether or not that was the correct move is the question. Probably not. But Sacco is simply following the GM. Also has to be asked, in the absence of Hampus, who else is supposed to play primarily with McAvoy? And even with Lindholm back, the whole mix doesn't quite fit together properly. That's part of the problem.

 

[smithformeragent]

Lindholm, Zadorov primed to fill holes on Bruins roster | NHL.com

Top-line center, big defenseman follow in footsteps of Boston legends Bergeron, Chara

www.nhl.com

BOSTON -- For the past year, there has been a Patrice Bergeron-sized hole in the Boston Bruins.

On Monday, at the start of free agency, the Bruins took a step toward filling that hole, ending a two-year bid to bring center Elias Lindholm to Boston, a player general manager Don Sweeney said “has a lot of Bergeron qualities.”

“It’s kind of been a two-year pursuit, to tell you the truth, wondering maybe if down the road he would ever get to free agency,” Sweeney said.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

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An injured Coyle is a lousy Coyle.......Sorry he works hard but is still slow and inconsistent.

Most players 6:03 aren't speedy or quick. He has had a good NHL career, so I don't get slagging him because he hasn't won The Cup. He helped get Boston to a G7 and if
63-37-88 had upheld their end of the bargain 5\5, Bruins win that series 10\10 and no one would GAS about Coyle's PO performance over the years.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

See you and raise.

As noted repeatedly elsewhere, there is not a single roster player on this team I wouldn't trade.

Also noted, I have my favorites and I consider certain players worthy of core status. However, I would trade any of the big names and hefty contracts if at all possible to begin again.

I am not a burn it all down yesterday sort.

Blame the underachieving players.

Blame the coach.

(Which one? The guy who won you a Stanley Cup for the first time in 39 years, kicked unceremoniously to the curb?

(The other guy who followed him with several successful regular seasons that came up short again and again because management failed again and again to provide the aging core they inherited [and grew financially fat on] with suitable talent *or even prepare for their obviously inevitable departure - FOR YEARS*?

(You know, the guy who went on to coach VGK to their first Stanley Cup the very next year whilst his replacement fumbled away a historic regular season juggernaut he later admitted had coached itself before making several inexplicable, inexcusable "coaching decisions" that brought their Cup dreams to ignominy?)

Mercifully, I stay my case.

For now.

The point is that a genuine rebuild, which does not require a complete fire sale, is clearly beyond both the motivation if not the ability of present management.

The ship is essentially rudderless, and must eventually be placed in braver hands that seek more than handsome, perpetual profit.

Speech to text. I'll clean it up in the morning if need be,

They had enough talent to beat STL in '19. The blame goes squarely on
63-37-88 doing nearly nothing 5\5.

 

[JerseyBruin]

Zacha fires wide

X (fill in the name) Bruin comes in on a breakaway , pulls up to pass to Pasta. Bruins come in 3-1 dump the puck into the corner go for line change.

 

[Forester65]

But he scored that silly mini 1 on 1 goal. Have you ever seen it?!

He peaked too early in life.

 

[bruins19]

X (fill in the name) Bruin comes in on a breakaway , pulls up to pass to Pasta. Bruins come in 3-1 dump the puck into the corner go for line change.

Or don’t dump it in and change anyway …

 

[LouJersey]

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It's hilarious that even media folks need to be fluffers with this team.

 

[GahdenRinkRat]

I am looking forward to the return of Hampus.

The D is struggling worse than I have seen in many years

Charlie Mac is usually good but IMO is overrated here by some. He stopped developing a couple of years ago and has reached his potential. I remember Tuukka giving him (by the bench) the stink eye and saying some not so nice stuff to him a few years ago...more than once. @GahdenRinkRat will back me up on this.

Yep, If looks could actually kill, we would not today be bemoaning McAvoy’s ineptitude

 

[Guelph Bruin]

A lot of talk about contracts and term being below value for the performance level (EL, Zad, Sway, Chuckie, Coyle, etc)....which is true this year (and last year for Chuckie) .... but if the cap moves up as is projected in the next few years isn't $5 M value/expected for a #4-5 D, $7.75 for a 2-3 C, $9.5 for a #2D, etc ... the only contract that I find hard to stomach on term and price is Swaymans because of the finicky nature of goalie year to year performances. We have our core, it's not super exciting but I don't think it's handcuffing us for the future. The real failure is drafting a developing to have cheap high value contracts ..although it might not be much of a failure and more of outcome of being so damn good for 15 years.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Yeah the latter for me, not so much purely in terms of signing him at all, but for that much money when he's not worth that much and there were important needs elsewhere not being addressed.

Zadorov is an ok player that you summed up well. He's playing pretty much how you would expect. The issue lies with his contact, both individually and in terms of how it sits within the roster and cap as a whole.

I'd like to see Zadorov paired with McAvoy again. They had a bad game against Toronto and then McAvoy was paired with Wotherspoon to start against the Islanders. Charlie had an even worse game.

Zadorov certainly brings a lot of good and bad. He leads all Bruins defensemen in hits by a lot, and his hits hurt. He also leads the team in giveaways, though Pasta and McAvoy are challenging. Tied for the lead on the team in penalty minutes but leads all dmen in plus/minus. Can't blame him for the power play's failure because he doesn't play on it. But he does play on the crappy PK.

As for the Bruins having bigger needs elsewhere, consider our left side right now if he weren't signed. And if he can pair with Charlie and they play well together, $5 mil for a top pair D is pretty good.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

I agree here 100% .They should be thinking rebuild but they don't have the stones for it..


Bruins are playing him on the top pair which to me is nuts.He is beyond slow moving pucks and him and McAvoy are always fighting it paired together & I don't care what the numbers say I am not blind.

Do you have any documented proof of that?

Is it possible you are a robot? I get asked that often these days.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

I am looking forward to the return of Hampus.

The D is struggling worse than I have seen in many years

Charlie Mac is usually good but IMO is overrated here by some. He stopped developing a couple of years ago and has reached his potential. I remember Tuukka giving him (by the bench) the stink eye and saying some not so nice stuff to him a few years ago...more than once. @GahdenRinkRat will back me up on this.

I don't doubt that at all.

 

[Guelph Bruin]

Yep, If looks could actually kill, we would not today be bemoaning McAvoy’s ineptitude

I've been on the stink eye Chuckie train since we discovered years ago he can't quarterback a powerplay ..yet here we are with him still trying...now I'm giving the coaches the stink eye But it makes me wonder about Rask ...goalies have the best view of the defensive lapses of players ...I wonder how much the coaches ask for their feedback to assess defensive weakness in their players to make adjustments

 

[TCB]

I am looking forward to the return of Hampus.

The D is struggling worse than I have seen in many years

Charlie Mac is usually good but IMO is overrated here by some. He stopped developing a couple of years ago and has reached his potential. I remember Tuukka giving him (by the bench) the stink eye and saying some not so nice stuff to him a few years ago...more than once. @GahdenRinkRat will back me up on this.

I love it when U give insight like this, because it’s factual. ! All I can say is keep them coming, andThank You !

Although Tuukka often looked as if he was giving someone the stink eye.

 

[Aussie Bruin]

I'd like to see Zadorov paired with McAvoy again. They had a bad game against Toronto and then McAvoy was paired with Wotherspoon to start against the Islanders. Charlie had an even worse game.

Zadorov certainly brings a lot of good and bad. He leads all Bruins defensemen in hits by a lot, and his hits hurt. He also leads the team in giveaways, though Pasta and McAvoy are challenging. Tied for the lead on the team in penalty minutes but leads all dmen in plus/minus. Can't blame him for the power play's failure because he doesn't play on it. But he does play on the crappy PK.

As for the Bruins having bigger needs elsewhere, consider our left side right now if he weren't signed. And if he can pair with Charlie and they play well together, $5 mil for a top pair D is pretty good.

As I said elsewhere, Zaddy was primarily signed to play with McAvoy. So he may as well do it. I'm really not sure he's up to it long-term, but it's probably worth persevering with for awhile and there aren't many other viable options.

And yeah, the Bruins had an obvious left side need on D, especially once Gryz was essentially given his marching orders. But was Zadorov the right guy to sign to fill that need and was the amount spent on it correct? Very debatable.

 

[Alan Ryan]

A lot of talk about contracts and term being below value for the performance level (EL, Zad, Sway, Chuckie, Coyle, etc)....which is true this year (and last year for Chuckie) .... but if the cap moves up as is projected in the next few years isn't $5 M value/expected for a #4-5 D, $7.75 for a 2-3 C, $9.5 for a #2D, etc ... the only contract that I find hard to stomach on term and price is Swaymans because of the finicky nature of goalie year to year performances. We have our core, it's not super exciting but I don't think it's handcuffing us for the future. The real failure is drafting a developing to have cheap high value contracts ..although it might not be much of a failure and more of outcome of being so damn good for 15 years.

The Bruins fan base is spoiled and the gloom and doom complaining here reflects that. The team has been very good for a long time with successful additions to the roster, without having to suffer through a big rebuild. I’m very grateful for that success.

They are having an off year by their standards (thus far). I’ll watch and see what happens for the second half of the season. They will either get it together and make the playoffs or die on the vine. If they don’t make it the off-season moves will be interesting to follow.

 

[Ladyfan]

I love it when U give insight like this, because it’s factual. ! All I can say is keep them coming, andThank You !

Although Tuukka often looked as if he was giving someone the stink eye.

...often it was the fans

Thanks. We do see and hear lots of stuff.

 

[TCB]

...often it was the fans

Thanks. We do see and hear lots of stuff.

Yes I can only imagine, I much envy you !

 

[Ladyfan]

I've been on the stink eye Chuckie train since we discovered years ago he can't quarterback a powerplay ..yet here we are with him still trying...now I'm giving the coaches the stink eye But it makes me wonder about Rask ...goalies have the best view of the defensive lapses of players ...I wonder how much the coaches ask for their feedback to assess defensive weakness in their players to make adjustments

I don't think you had to ask Tuukka. Actually, I don't believe coaches need to ask the net minders. I think they see it with their own eyes.

BTW...I like Charlie Mac. There is no player on the current team I dislike (at this time). I just think some here think he is something he is not.

Also, for everyone who hates on Carlo....He just isn't what people want him to be. He is never going to be tough (like Zaddy) just because he is big.

 

[Ladyfan]

Yes I can only imagine, I much envy you !

We usually have fun but lately the drive back to NH seems long. It is still fun at times.

Our seats are obstructed view because the Bs get in our way, and we have to look at the jumbotron when they are in the far corner. I do love our seats though. We see and hear so much and Brad Marchand is a funny guy . Also, I like the guys who work behind the bench. They are very cool. I have known some of them for over 20 years. The equipment guys are awesome. The photographer (Steve Babineau) is a good guy! He and I are the same age.

I hope the Bs can pull it together. I know it will not be this year, but they should be better than they have been of late.

#1 on my life bucket list is to see the Bs win the cup on home ice while I can still afford to go and do the drive to and from NH. They had better hurry because I am OLD....and broke.