Post-Game Talk: GAME 41 - Toronto 6 BRUINS 4

[JerseyBruin]

It's kinda funny in hindsight. Sweeney clearly wanted to build this team from the net out and while it isn't a bad idea, his execution has been a big fat dud so far;

McAvoy: was best under Cassidy to the point he was absolutely worth that 9.5 million power play issues withstanding. Started to be a bit more shaky under Monty and then proceeded to fall off a cliff this year. Was horrendous tonight.

Carlo: was once pound for pound one of the better DFD in the league. String of concussions,, post concussion syndrome and other injuries have turned him into a shell of what t
He was. I feel bad for the guy. People have been rightfully hard on him but it feels like he's understandingly spooked by all the problems he's had. This game truly can suck sometimes.

Lohrei: the ups and downs of a young d-man are par for the course, but there's been a lot more down than up this season.

Zadorov: he's not a top pairing guy, Vancouver knew this despite universal praise for playing his role and being a good teammate. We're now stuck with this for the next half decade. Good job, Don. God willing, a Lindholm return pushes him into a more suitable role and he doesn't suck (probably not, he's always been inconsistent as )

Peeke: expensive for a bottom pairing guy. Can't skate, can't move the puck. But is big and mean so yay?

Swayman wasn't the reason they lost again tonight but he's also not been the reason why they've won games. When he's making just under like 300k what a guy like Hellebyuck makes while the former steals games on a nightly basis, it's not a good look


(Helle is absolutely going to win another vezina btw)

But what's his salary look like when Winnipeg needs to reup him. That's the problem with salary cap based sports windows can be extremely small for talented teams.

 

[PaulD]

Both Gm's would need to get creative as PO bound teams likely don't have much cap space . But in Bruins history many of the bigger more creative deals have yielded the best results. Now do we entirely trust DS to make that type of deal . But I know just trading minor pieces like so many want to do will not move the needle for this club and in essence just kick the can down the road a bit further.

My gut feeling is the Bruins are a crossroads where a major shakeup is needed.

You're probably right.
But I gotta say I'm impressed by the Bs. Worst they have looked and struggled in recent memory yet sit in a play off spot. Worst goaltending they've had in decades, Worst D to a man one thru six that I can ever recall, Pasta and Marchie have a heavy load up front with less help than they've ever enjoyed. Fired a coach..
Most teams would be seller dwellers with all that happening at once ......yet here they are 3rd in Atlantic.
I tip my hat.

 

[Over the volcano]

Better than expected and still disappointing- is that just a culture of New England type thing?

 

[Jorah Marshmont]

But what's his salary look like when Winnipeg needs to reup him. That's the problem with salary cap based sports windows can be extremely small for talented teams.

They don’t have to worry about that for another 6 years

 

[Dr Hook]

#73 has regressed without a doubt, not stagnated. Right now he is closer to being
the #30 D man in the NHL as 5th. Don't see this guy getting back to what he was.

It's the new flow in his lettuce that is messing with his game. He'll come around once that settles in.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

It's the new flow in his lettuce that is messing with his game. He'll come around once that settles in.

Should shave his head for the good of the team.

 

[JerseyBruin]

They don’t have to worry about that for another 6 years

Forgot they had signed him long term for roughly 8.5 per . My bad . But still his 8.5 is a large hit when some of their stars need to get paid in the near future .

 

[nORRis8]

Didn't see the game, I know the outcome, I won't be watching the hilites.
But just looking at my handy crystal ball here I predict we'll be out of the playoff picture in 3 weeks or less. Even the Habs could pass us!
Since nothing seems to be done other than picking up players on waivers or playing player ping pong with Providence... we're done.

Cut the fat.

 

[PaulD]

But what's his salary look like when Winnipeg needs to reup him. That's the problem with salary cap based sports windows can be extremely small for talented teams.

Jets already landed Hellebuyck on a great long term deal.

 

[Hookslide]

Hopefully . Swayman caused a lot of issues with his contract negations'. Certainly it created a major distraction preseason. He has certainly not lived up to his contract so far. I felt it was at least a million to much per season when signed, and it has only gotten worse going forward

I think you are on the right track with the distractions, but Swaymans, contract was not the only issue, Monty's situation did not help, being told by the GM that there were no off-season surgeries, when Marchand had three alone. There were others

 

[PaulD]

Forgot they had signed him long term for roughly 8.5 per . My bad . But still his 8.5 is a large hit when some of their stars need to get paid in the near future .

nope. Jets have two of the best long term deals in the league. Signed I believe on the same day. Hellebuyck and Scheifele.

 

[Therewolf31]

I know he scored tonight but there should be an Unsolved Mysteries episode on Trent Frederic and why he’s yet to be scratched.

Honestly guys what difference what seedings make. You get Wildcard 1 you play New Jersey or carolina get 3rd play leafs Tampa or cats. They all tough first round opponents. Just get in . We still have a solid shot here. Maybe Donny adds something magical by deadline and you never know. Remember mojo pickup in 2019 and what a run that was .

Just get in. Yeah easier said then done. I don't think they'll make it. Their D is an absolute mess and I just don't get it. Could the addition of Little Z be so disruptive to the core? It's like they're playing hot potato out there and don't want to touch the puck. If Vancouver wants Z back, the B's should pull the trigger on that one.

 

[Bruinfanatic]

Just get in. Yeah easier said then done. I don't think they'll make it. Their D is an absolute mess and I just don't get it. Could the addition of Little Z be so disruptive to the core? It's like they're playing hot potato out there and don't want to touch the puck. If Vancouver wants Z back, the B's should pull the trigger on that one.

They looked like the second coming of the Devils back in their Defensive hay day era against Washington when they played in Boston a while back ,not sure what the hell happened to them.Maybe the Caps just really sucked that game.

 

[Therewolf31]

They looked like the second coming of the Devils back in their Defensive hay day era against Washington when they played in Boston a while back ,not sure what the hell happened to them.Maybe the Caps just really sucked that game.

Maybe but there's far more games full of defensive lapses than there are good games. The only major change is the addition of Little Z and I just wonder if he's causing grief in the room. He certainly is more interested in trying to plant someone through the boards than making the right play and, oh I don't know, clear the zone?!!

 

[Bruinfanatic]

Maybe but there's far more games full of defensive lapses than there are good games. The only major change is the addition of Little Z and I just wonder if he's causing grief in the room. He certainly is more interested in trying to plant someone through the boards than making the right play and, oh I don't know, clear the zone?!!

Bruins D last season many times looked like the Keystone cops ,but there goaltending bailed them out more ,plus they couldn’t also score more goals last season.

 

[CDJ]

Forgot they had signed him long term for roughly 8.5 per . My bad . But still his 8.5 is a large hit when some of their stars need to get paid in the near future .

Sure, but he is one of their stars. Hes probably their best player. What they get out of him vs what we get out of Swayman is a f***ing bloodbath and they basically make the same money

 

[PaulD]

Just get in. Yeah easier said then done. I don't think they'll make it. Their D is an absolute mess and I just don't get it. Could the addition of Little Z be so disruptive to the core? It's like they're playing hot potato out there and don't want to touch the puck. If Vancouver wants Z back, the B's should pull the trigger on that one.

and send Mac with him.
Thinking you have a No 1 D when you don't is the biggest problem on that blue line.
Mac gets back to how he played under Cassidy or Bs need to shop him. 9.5 for that hot mess last night. Unacceptable. You don't just eat that.

 

[The don godfather]

Just get in. Yeah easier said then done. I don't think they'll make it. Their D is an absolute mess and I just don't get it. Could the addition of Little Z be so disruptive to the core? It's like they're playing hot potato out there and don't want to touch the puck. If Vancouver wants Z back, the B's should pull the trigger on that one.

I'll take this bet they will get in.

You may be missing a few more pieces from that incredible 2011 run. Swayman is not Tim Thomas. Zacha is not David Krejci. Lindholm is not Patrice Bergeron. Chara. Mcquaid. Seidenberg, Ference, Horton, Lucic (pre abuse allegations), Seguin, Campbell, Thornton, Paille, etc. All the moving parts that came together at just the right time.

That 2011 team would crush this team in a 7 game series and not think twice about it. It's over Don. This season is a wash, even if they somehow squeak into the playoffs.

I want playoffs after that who knows thats for every team who gets that lotto ticket.

Carolina owns the Bruins

Ok start fresh in a 7 game series. Let's see.

 

[pgm16]

If the damn PP was middle of the pack, they would be leading the division...so frustrating !

 

[PaulD]

They looked like the second coming of the Devils back in their Defensive hay day era against Washington when they played in Boston a while back ,not sure what the hell happened to them.Maybe the Caps just really sucked that game.

See that all over the league.
For instance Habs just beat Panthers , Bolts, Knights, lost one then beat the Aves.
Reg season has more games than ever that for what ever reason ....teams just mail games in.
I see the Bs getting in and being a tough out. Panthers win the east for 3rd time.

 

[NDiesel]

See some Sway blame going around in here, just watched the highlights and I don't think you blame one on him, awful turnovers can't be giving a team with firepower those chances

 

[JerseyBruin]

Sure, but he is one of their stars. Hes probably their best player. What they get out of him vs what we get out of Swayman is a f***ing bloodbath and they basically make the same money

Small sample size on Sway considering he missed training camp .

Sure, but he is one of their stars. Hes probably their best player. What they get out of him vs what we get out of Swayman is a f***ing bloodbath and they basically make the same money

Ranger fans were saying similar things about Igor last year 1st half and then he almost carried them to the cup .

 

[bwunderlich]

So . . .who matched up with Top lines of Tampa, Florida, and Leafs?

It certainly is not Lindholm and Brad. They are 2B options.

Our 3rd line, if we were good would be Coyle centering Brad and Geekie

 

[PlayMakers]

They looked like the second coming of the Devils back in their Defensive hay day era against Washington when they played in Boston a while back ,not sure what the hell happened to them.Maybe the Caps just really sucked that game.

Momentum is a funny thing, it's like pushing a boulder. It takes a huge amount of energy to get it going but once it's moving it's not that hard to keep rolling.

The Xmas break stopped their momentum, and now they're killing themselves trying to get the ball rolling again. They'll get there, and they'll beat some of these teams coming up that they shouldn't beat.

 

[LouJersey]

Was it just me or did it seem like E Lindholm floated for the entire game ?

He was lazy imo and out worked. Very unlike him

You're probably right.
But I gotta say I'm impressed by the Bs. Worst they have looked and struggled in recent memory yet sit in a play off spot. Worst goaltending they've had in decades, Worst D to a man one thru six that I can ever recall, Pasta and Marchie have a heavy load up front with less help than they've ever enjoyed. Fired a coach..
Most teams would be seller dwellers with all that happening at once ......yet here they are 3rd in Atlantic.
I tip my hat.

The division sucks. It’s more of an indictment on them than the Bruins being “good” IMO. The standard of 41 sell outs and 3-4 home playoff games isn’t really hard to attain year after year when Detroit, Buffalo and Ottawa are the top three teams in playoff droughts