Post-Game Talk: GAME 40 - No Miracle On 34th Street - NYR 2 BRUINS 1

[TCB]

I agree no one is untradeable , it just depends or what the return would be. This team is not getting significantly better by trading pieces like Coyle, Freddy, Carlo etc.. You have to give to get just comes down to how desperate the Owner/GM etc.. is.

Agreed and this team so badly needs a change. Unfortunately whatever Sweeney does, hasn't worked. He just hasn't been able to bring in any significant up grade in his tenure to play with Marchand and Pasta, whether its through free agency or trade. We've seen the likes of krejci, Bergy, Krug and now Debrusk all depart, with no adequate replacements. None zilch !

Maybe the change should start in the front office.

 

[JerseyBruin]

It's very difficult to key on a player when down a man.

But when no one else on the PP shoots the puck the most important player on the PK(Goalie) knows what to expect.

 

[TCB]

Agreed Swayman didn’t lose that game for them. But he didn’t win it, either. With his paycheque, I want to see him win some for them.

Exactly seems like he was more worried about setting the pay scale for keepers, than he was for setting the way the position should be played on the ice.

 

[BMC]

I think it is.

Pasta is absolutely the number 1 reason the Bruins offense is so bad compared to last season.


Zacha (21) and Coyle (25) both had more goals than DeBrusk (19) did last season. Freddy (18) and Geekie (17) and Heinen (17) were pretty close while all being better players than Jake in general.

Bruins aren't losing games because they don't have DeBrusk. But the traffic here would be much heavier if Jake was still around playing at his usual level for the B's.



Hasn't missed a game all year. *

* It doesn't mean he's not dealing with an injury. I think he is because his shooting has been way off & he is passing more often. He's been pretty successful with it too.

 

[TCB]

It's very difficult to key on a player when down a man.

What ? Have you been watching ?
If no one else shoots to open lanes or keep the pkers honest and everyone just tries to set up Pasta, Its pretty dam easy and if Pasta wasn't such a great playmaker the pp would be even more atrocious.

 

[BiteThisBurrows]

I thought the B's were entitled to a playoff spot.

How else can it be explained what with the poor ownership, shitty management, terrible coaching and choking players for the last decade.

Well we've had the ineptitude of Detroit and Buffalo and Ottawa etc to thank for that but some of them look like they are finally getting it together. Not all of them, but some of them.

It'll be a miracle if they find a way to stay competitive with that weak pipeline we have.

 

[Over the volcano]

I kinda like guys on those lines though.
Koepke
Brazeau especially
Kastelic
Money wise...totally worth it.

Coyle....debatable.
Frederic....not debate.

Does Coyle make as much as all the te others combined?

 

[22Brad Park]

I think it is.

Pasta is absolutely the number 1 reason the Bruins offense is so bad compared to last season.


Zacha (21) and Coyle (25) both had more goals than DeBrusk (19) did last season. Freddy (18) and Geekie (17) and Heinen (17) were pretty close while all being better players than Jake in general.

Bruins aren't losing games because they don't have DeBrusk. But the traffic here would be much heavier if Jake was still around playing at his usual level for the B's.



Hasn't missed a game all year.

I am not even going there anymore.People that want to shit on Pasta deserve the Trent Frederics .

 

[Babajingo]

Funny how when so many other BRUINS are playing below their capabilities only Pasta gets to have "he's injured" on so many posts.

I'm not sticking up for the guy. He pissed me off last night on the first goal. When Mika was coming across the net with the puck, Pasta could've, at least, bumped him. He was going the other way. That would've prevented him from getting in the position where he scored the goal. Instead he skated by him like it was warm ups.
I do think he is not up to his normal play level. Is it a nagging injury? mental? lazy? bad surrounding players?

 

[BMC]

Agreed and this team so badly needs a change. Unfortunately whatever Sweeney does, hasn't worked. He just hasn't been able to bring in any significant up grade in his tenure to play with Marchand and Pasta, whether its through free agency or trade. We've seen the likes of krejci, Bergy, Krug and now Debrusk all depart, with no adequate replacements. None zilch !

Maybe the change should start in the front office.

Bingo!

While Sweeney has found some good undrafted UFAs overall his UFA signings have not been good, his trades have been meh & the less said about his drafting the better. Plus there seems to be some disconnect between him & Neely about the Bruins style of play.

I'm in favor of a 2006 level of management housecleaning with the exception of Goalie Bob & maybe Evan Gold

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

I think it is.

Pasta is absolutely the number 1 reason the Bruins offense is so bad compared to last season.


Zacha (21) and Coyle (25) both had more goals than DeBrusk (19) did last season. Freddy (18) and Geekie (17) and Heinen (17) were pretty close while all being better players than Jake in general.

Bruins aren't losing games because they don't have DeBrusk. But the traffic here would be much heavier if Jake was still around playing at his usual level for the B's.



Hasn't missed a game all year.

Sweeney is the #1 reason the offense is so dreadful. No successful teams rely on one single player more (with Marchand) than the Bruins rely on Pastrnak to both create the play and finish the play.

 

[HumBucker]

Astounding how many times these players couldn't complete a decent pass. Judd said "didn't connect with..." more than he said "Here it comes!"

Some people characterize this team as being composed of too many 4th-liners. That's not really the problem. Even competent 4th-liners can make accurate passes on a consistent basis.

 

[22Brad Park]

Sweeney is the #1 reason the offense is so dreadful. No successful teams rely on one single player more (with Marchand) than the Bruins rely on Pastrnak to both create the play and finish the play.

Without a doubt he has to own it for this 24-25 team .

 

[BMC]

Does Coyle make as much as all the te others combined?

He makes 5.25 million a year

 

[NeelyOrr]

I have no idea how to solve Pasta's offensive woes, but a much longer stick would help solve his defensive woes.

 

[The don godfather]

I would only trade Pasta for multiple roster players. We have a lot of prospects that used to be picks. Many don’t pan out. You need someone who could play now. Ottawa would never do the Espo trade, much less this one, but a Pasta and Sway for Ullmark and Brady T would be awesome for us. Likely would have to add a sweetener.

I would do pasta for cooley.

 

[IveGotToBeMe]

I would do pasta for cooley.

That's ridiculously bad

 

[Aussie Bruin]

I would sell on Carlo as well. A team would over pay.


The NHL shoots itself in the foot with the schedule. 7-8 divisional rivalry games vs playing Coyotes or Seattle, Columbus, etc. Would go a long way to add emotion and entertainment even to a game 47 on a Monday night. Even this disinterested Boston roster would have to engage then.

Personally I like seeing the Bruins play the western teams. It adds variety and I think it would be a shame if the Bs went through a year without seeing how they measure up against a McDavid or MacKinnon. The Sabres-Avs game I mentioned had plenty of spite despite being east-west, so it's possible to brew some bad blood across the divide even if it's not common.

However I also agree that divisional or other local rivalries are the backbone of the game and that's where the most emotion and possibility for intense competition lies, at least in the regular season. Perhaps you could cut the cross-conference games to 1 per season, alternating home venue each year, or the cross-divisional (so ATL-MET etc.) games down to 2, and use those to increase the number of inter-divisional ones to 5-6 a year without completing cutting the conferences off from each other. You need a balance of regional and national and probably at the moment it's not quite right.

 

[analyser]

That’s not how most hockey players are wired they’ll beat themselves up more than anyone else will and if anything his confidence will take the hit..

He needs to better but why is this a conversation after last nights game cause he didn’t clear the puck out ? You do realize he also kept us in that game too.

You do realize that for the money he should be a top goalie statistically. The conversation is just not about last night. He should be making some of those wow saves which he is not.

 

[Aussie Bruin]

Leafs are good.

They play better without Matthews.

Wonder if the Bruins would play better without one of their star players?



Agreed.

If they put the clearly not fully fit Pasta on the shelf for awhile to properly heal up from whatever exactly ails him, they might find out. But they don't dare.

 

[Mick Riddleton]

I just remembered we had a game tonight. Tuned in with 2 minutes left. I don’t even care. Years ago, I would be so angry with myself for having missed a game. Now, I don’t even care. Sad.

I am feeling the same way about this team. Once a week or every 2 weeks they get me back into the groove but its not the same anymore. I have low expectations so I am not going get upset anymore.

The team trying to score and Sweeney trying to make deals reminds of this skit.

 

[smithformeragent]

To continue forward with the core of Pastrnak, Swayman, McAvoy and an outer core of Hampus Lindholm, Elias Lindholm, Coyle, Zacha, and Zadorov accomplishes what exactly?

What is their path to acquire complimentary pieces to push them into contention?

I’m not dealing Pastrnak or McAvoy for pennies on the dollar, but at some point in a cap league, you’ve got to admit that your path forward is blocked and you’ve got to retool or rebuild the thing or you waste guys’ primes for nothing.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

To continue forward with the core of Pastrnak, Swayman, McAvoy and an outer core of Hampus Lindholm, Elias Lindholm, Coyle, Zacha, and Zadorov accomplishes what exactly?

What is their path to acquire complimentary pieces to push them into contention?

I’m not dealing Pastrnak or McAvoy for pennies on the dollar, but at some point in a cap league, you’ve got to admit that your path forward is blocked and you’ve got to retool or rebuild the thing or you waste guys’ primes for nothing.

You have to draft well and get lucky in your drafting when your a contending team beginning to regress. In Boston's instance they have traded a ton of picks and all time butchered the 1st Round in 2015. It was their get out of jail card for this time and went FUBAR it. No surprise the chickens are coming home to roost. I said if they got any injuries in the top 6 they would become a bubble team. #88 is dinged up and look what's happening.

 

[BergyWho37]

You do realize that for the money he should be a top goalie statistically. The conversation is just not about last night. He should be making some of those wow saves which he is not.

I didn’t argue he should be better this year but to piss and moan over a game that he still made key saves to keep us in it seems like agenda more then anything ..

Quick made one save that was stand out and you could easily say McAvoy shot it at his pad so please..

IF your gonna compare salary’s with every game and goalie we play against without acknowledging how bad are offensive is your gonna continue to be disappointed.

 

[Bridges31]

I must have been watching a different game than a lot of people here. I thought that was one of Marchand’s best games this season. He was in on every puck battle and won most of them. Kind of reminded me of Marchand from two years ago.