Post-Game Talk: GAME 40 - No Miracle On 34th Street - NYR 2 BRUINS 1

[Hookslide]

They won't be trading Pasta...and they should not.

You are right no way should Pasta be moved, unless it is a offer you cannot refuse. I do think the time has come for a for some pieces to be moved, we all have our opinions who should go and who should not, but lets be honest something needs to be done, whether we like the moves or not, add some pieces and hopefully they will jell with what is left. I would not take anyone off the table to be moved and that includes anyone on the Providence roster. The offense on this team is horrendous and embarrasing.

I keep wondering when our $8.25 million goalie is going to start winning some games for us. He was better as the game went on, but didn’t look good on the goals. To be honest, I haven’t been able to get the bad taste out of my mouth since his holdout.

We share the same taste, has not won a game for this team this year. The offense is terrible, how many games do you expect to win when scoring 0-to 1 goal, and a shootout is when you score 2.
They should have kept the goalie they sent to Ottawa, at least he could score

 

[wintersej]

Wow, this is what the speed and skill lovers wanted huh? This is what no contact, non physical hockey looks like, a cure for insomnia unless you have McDavid or a star of that level to watch.

Gotta love analytics that will tell me this snoozefest was entertaining.

The Bruins have the second most hits in the league and have the biggest team in the league and one of the slowest and least skilled. Your take is 100% wrong. The rest of the league is fun, its teams like the Bruins that have to try to suck the life out of the game to be able to keep up that are the problem. And it’s fine if you are winning playing that way. But losing 2-1 every game instead of winning 2-1 really makes it impossible to watch.

 

[Sheppy]

To be fair, it's not McAvoy's job to be a goal scorer. Found himself in a great position to score, but none the less an unfamiliar position.

While he's not primarily a goal scorer, it's his job to provide offense. Especially when making the coin he is.

 

[IveGotToBeMe]

Unless I'm missing something, a ton of people on this board wanted more size and more toughness last season and into the post season. Many of those same people are now complaining that they have no speed and goal scoring ability. The team is bigger but not tough. There are a couple legitimate scorers that aren't scoring. There are a few players who had career years (low bar for those I'm referencing) last season. The solid goalie tandem from last season is no longer, although many of the recent losses can't be pinned on the goalies. A head coach was fired that, in my opinion, had already left mentally and lost the team. The problem with this team is not toughness or scoring or goaltending, it's a combination of all of those that no head coach or front office can fix in an instant. And, the biggest problem on this team despite all the shortcomings mentioned above, is a pure lack of team CHEMISTRY. The pieces of this puzzle do not make a pretty Bob Ross landscape when forced together.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Leafs are playing well I'm pissed.

Leafs are good.

They play better without Matthews.

Wonder if the Bruins would play better without one of their star players?

While he's not primarily a goal scorer, it's his job to provide offense. Especially when making the coin he is.

Agreed.

 

[wintersej]

Just going to update my post from last night's GDT

Bruins this season....

4-14-4 when scoring 2 goals or less
16-1-1 when scoring 3 goals or more

There are too many parts of a proper foundation in place to blow it up. But damn to they need to find a way to get to at least league average scoring. Bruins score around 2.5 goals a game. League average is 3.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

If only they were from Weymouth.

Would you take the guy from Chelmsford for #88?

 

[Ladyfan]

You are right no way should Pasta be moved, unless it is a offer you cannot refuse. I do think the time has come for a for some pieces to be moved, we all have our opinions who should go and who should not, but lets be honest something needs to be done, whether we like the moves or not, add some pieces and hopefully they will jell with what is left. I would not take anyone off the table to be moved and that includes anyone on the Providence roster. The offense on this team is horrendous and embarrasing.

I agree. We have some good 3d and 4th line players BUT need a player or two who can play on the top two lines.

Also, the D scares me. When Hampus returns it will improve but they need help. Mason Lohrei has skill but is still very green.

I believe Sway will be a great goalie but is not yet there (he is young). I hope he has thick skin because the fans will start to get on him if he lets in bad goals....and he does most games.

We Bs fans have been spoiled for years.

Hopefully management can add a player or to who can help.

 

[wintersej]

I think someone or two or three from the good old boys club of Coyle, Frederic and Carlo needs to go.

 

[22Brad Park]

Quick plays incredible game and JSway assists Rangers goal. Big difference. His brainfarts have been costly for this team. Swap those goalies and it would've been easy victory for Bruins.

The nerve of u to blame Swayman.He made a pile of huge saves.Score some fking goals for once.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

As much as the fan base is desperate for a dynamic trade, I just don’t see it.

The salary cap is one barrier. Another major barrier is the fact that they do not have much stock in the cupboards to trade.

As I said in the Gameday thread, prepare yourselves for this reality:
Win 2
Lose 2
Win 4
Lose 2

Now through the end of March.

Keep cycling through the same bottom six fodder, hoping to find some offensive spark.

Go through stretches where Morgan Geekie gets hot and scores three goals in four games, and then disappears for a half a dozen games.

This is what they are.

94 points, wild card, lose the first round in 5.

Losing DeBrusk and Pastrnaks decline and Swaymans start have cost them probably 6 points. Hopefully #88\#1 can do something about their play 2nd half. Swayman is playing better but #88 needs to score more goals, that simple.

 

[Hookslide]

Unless I'm missing something, a ton of people on this board wanted more size and more toughness last season and into the post season. Many of those same people are now complaining that they have no speed and goal scoring ability. The team is bigger but not tough. There are a couple legitimate scorers that aren't scoring. There are a few players who had career years (low bar for those I'm referencing) last season. The solid goalie tandem from last season is no longer, although many of the recent losses can't be pinned on the goalies. A head coach was fired that, in my opinion, had already left mentally and lost the team. The problem with this team is not toughness or scoring or goaltending, it's a combination of all of those that no head coach or front office can fix in an instant. And, the biggest problem on this team despite all the shortcomings mentioned above, is a pure lack of team CHEMISTRY. The pieces of this puzzle do not make a pretty Bob Ross landscape when forced together.

You are correct in saying there were a lot of people who wanted some size and toughness on this team to be better equipped for the playoffs and I was one of them. I think you have your finger on the pulse on the coach mindset, but I also believe that this offseason stuff has greatly affected this team. The GM, being MIA is pissing me off also.

 

[Boston BROin]

Unless I'm missing something, a ton of people on this board wanted more size and more toughness last season and into the post season. Many of those same people are now complaining that they have no speed and goal scoring ability. The team is bigger but not tough. There are a couple legitimate scorers that aren't scoring. There are a few players who had career years (low bar for those I'm referencing) last season. The solid goalie tandem from last season is no longer, although many of the recent losses can't be pinned on the goalies. A head coach was fired that, in my opinion, had already left mentally and lost the team. The problem with this team is not toughness or scoring or goaltending, it's a combination of all of those that no head coach or front office can fix in an instant. And, the biggest problem on this team despite all the shortcomings mentioned above, is a pure lack of team CHEMISTRY. The pieces of this puzzle do not make a pretty Bob Ross landscape when forced together.

People have been asking for more toughness out of this team forever. I remember back in 2009 to 2012, people were upset we didn't have enough toughness/guys who could fight on the team. Guys like McQuaid, Thornton, Chara and Lucic weren't enough because only Thornton and Lucic were able to fight.

 

[Hookslide]

I think someone or two or three from the good old boys club of Coyle, Frederic and Carlo needs to go.

It is more than just those three, because if it wasn't this team would not be so bad. Many players, coaches, management, and situations to point fingers at.

 

[22Brad Park]

Losing DeBrusk and Pastrnaks decline and Swaymans start have cost them probably 6 points. Hopefully #88\#1 can do something about their play 2nd half. Swayman is playing better but #88 needs to score more goals, that simple.

More then him needs to score.He is not the only guy drawing a pay cheque .the D has not scored in over a month..

 

[Dr Hook]

And, the biggest problem on this team despite all the shortcomings mentioned above, is a pure lack of team CHEMISTRY. The pieces of this puzzle do not make a pretty Bob Ross landscape when forced together.

You're on to something here. The team has trouble stringing three passes together most of time. How many plays on a rush or in the o-zone are dying because passes are behind, or out front of guys, or in their skates, or they go where a guy should have been but isn't? Way too many. Add that to the usual Bruins problem of trying to pass through too many legs to make the cute play, and the lack of finish when they do get opportunities, and this is what you get.

I actually don't think now that the D and goaltending are problematic. If a team can't put more than 2 goals on the board in a game, they aren't going to win very much. Three goals and they win last night, and in Washington, for example, and they had the chances to do it.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

He was really good. If it weren't against the Bs I would be happy for him


This!

Wow, this is what the speed and skill lovers wanted huh? This is what no contact, non physical hockey looks like, a cure for insomnia unless you have McDavid or a star of that level to watch.

Gotta love analytics that will tell me this snoozefest was entertaining.

Brazeau's hit on Schneider was pretty nasty, weren't you happy?

 

[22Brad Park]

The biggest issue to me ( yes need top 6 winger) is the backend.They play loose and cost at least 2 or 3 odd man rushes per game while at same time bring 0 offense.Last night was on them not Swayman.Scoring more certainly would help to but last night those mistakes killed them.

 

[JerseyBruin]

I think someone or two or three from the good old boys club of Coyle, Frederic and Carlo needs to go.

Problem is the return you will get for any of those won't provide enough of a boost. If we want a talented scoring forward what we give up needs to be something of better value. Otherwise all we're doing is swapping deck chairs .

 

[Boston BROin]

You're on to something here. The team has trouble stringing three passes together most of time. How many plays on a rush or in the o-zone are dying because passes are behind, or out front of guys, or in their skates, or they go where a guy should have been but isn't? Way too many. Add that to the usual Bruins problem of trying to pass through too many legs to make the cute play, and the lack of finish when they do get opportunities, and this is what you get.

I actually don't think now that the D and goaltending are problematic. If a team can't put more than 2 goals on the board in a game, they aren't going to win very much. Three goals and they win last night, and in Washington, for example, and they had the chances to do it.

Yeah, there is something off when watching this team. There were a few times last night where a guy makes a great interception or a good move around a defender and then it results in nothing or a turnover. The same thing happens to the Bruins in their own zone, and the wheels fall off.

Is it too much change in the offseason, not the right guys, Sacco's coaching reaching its limit?

 

[Dr Hook]

The biggest issue to me ( yes need top 6 winger) is the backend.They play loose and cost at least 2 or 3 odd man rushes per game while at same time bring 0 offense.Last night was on them not Swayman.Scoring more certainly would help to but last night those mistakes killed them.

Those things happen to every team more often than they should, though. Guys get caught pinching, or bobble it on the blue line, etc. No one in the league plays a perfect game. You hate to see it, and maybe the Bruins let it happen a little more than we like, but you have to have the scoring to fight back from those things, which the Bruins generally do not have.

 

[jgatie]

People have been asking for more toughness out of this team forever. I remember back in 2009 to 2012, people were upset we didn't have enough toughness/guys who could fight on the team. Guys like McQuaid, Thornton, Chara and Lucic weren't enough because only Thornton and Lucic were able to fight.

You are delirious. Nobody ever said that team lacked toughness. And nobody ever said that "only Thornton and Lucic were able to fight." So stop with the bullshit.

 

[TCB]

You are delirious. Nobody ever said that team lacked toughness. And nobody ever said that "only Thornton and Lucic were able to fight." So stop with the bullshit.

Gotta say everyone loved Quaider and that Man could throw them

 

[22Brad Park]

Those things happen to every team more often than they should, though. Guys get caught pinching, or bobble it on the blue line, etc. No one in the league plays a perfect game. You hate to see it, and maybe the Bruins let it happen a little more than we like, but you have to have the scoring to fight back from those things, which the Bruins generally do not have.

I watch a load of games and nobody gives up more stupid odd man rushes then Boston .But yes some scoring would certainly alleviate some mistakes. Anyone blaming Swayman for that loss should go watch broomball or ringette.

 

[JerseyBruin]

Yeah, there is something off when watching this team. There were a few times last night where a guy makes a great interception or a good move around a defender and then it results in nothing or a turnover. The same thing happens to the Bruins in their own zone, and the wheels fall off.

Is it too much change in the offseason, not the right guys, Sacco's coaching reaching its limit?

The problem is on offense too many players are forcing passes to the only guys who shoot the puck ( Pasta, Geekie ) . How many odd man rushes fizzle because they peel back waiting to pass to Pasta . In their own zone outside of Lohrei and Mac the D are so reluctant to skate with the puck they force horrible passes up the boards which get picked off easily by the opposition.