GDT: Game 4: Red Wings vs rags 7:30 pm et 10/17/24

[lilidk]

No Igor it seems.

Expecting 10 goals today

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

I have plenty of patience for Gustafsson.

That said, pretty funny that Walman getting scratched a handful of games, clearly battling injury, was many posters’ justification for why he actually sucked and it made sense to ship a 2nd to get out of his deal. Then you take 2 of that 3.4 cap savings, sign another LHD, and scratch that guy after he looks rough game 1.

I myself would’ve just kept the guy we had as well as the 2nd. Alas.

 

[norrisnick]

I am kind of surprised Maatta is still on the team. I always just assumed he would get moved to make room for someone like Johansson. Seems like he has played well enough to get moved for a pick or something like that.

Because he's at worst our 4th best defenseman.

 

[wingsfannn919191]

That 3rd line is atrocious and should be the 4th. Be a miracle if any of them reached 30 pts if they played 82 games together

 

[FMichael]

No Igor it seems.

 

[theYman]

More than likely that Gus is getting another chance at the PP to see if he can get something going. Not even Fester is dumb enough to play Gus for his defense. As others have pointed out, AlJo was better in that respect.

Why not go 11-7 so AlJo can play? I thought Lalonde was a fan of that?

Talbot should be in goal tonight. As per yesterday's press conference.

 

[brett89]

lets go wings!

 

[ricky0034]

No Igor it seems.

Lalonde playing 4D chess

"better sit Shesterkin or Detroit's coach will say he should make $20m a year after he shuts them out"

 

[ShanahanMan]

No Igor it seems.

I’ve seen this play out before. Copp will lob 5 shots directly into crest and Rasmussen will shoot a few from a shit angle and everyone will say Quick was on his A game and it’s the only reason we lost

 

[Gniwder]

Why not go 11-7 so AlJo can play? I thought Lalonde was a fan of that?

Talbot should be in goal tonight. As per yesterday's press conference.

Ask him, not me, lol. Watson barely even played last game, so 7D might make more sense.

 

[JohanFranzenstein]

Wondering why our next game is next Thursday. Who the hell wrote this schedule?

 

[RRhoads]

Wondering why our next game is next Thursday. Who the hell wrote this schedule?

It is not. We have Nashville on Saturday, and Islanders on Tuesday

 

[jaster]

Wondering why our next game is next Thursday. Who the hell wrote this schedule?

You got your schedule filtered for home games, bruh?

 

[JohanFranzenstein]

You got your schedule filtered for home games, bruh?

My work has a season schedule that has home and away games on seperate sheets, seperate from each other

 

[PelagicJoe]

It would be cool if I didn't have to have a streaming app to watch the game. I'm tired of certain games being exclusive to shit I don't own and don't want to pay for.

 

[The Zermanator]

I have plenty of patience for Gustafsson.

That said, pretty funny that Walman getting scratched a handful of games, clearly battling injury, was many posters’ justification for why he actually sucked and it made sense to ship a 2nd to get out of his deal. Then you take 2 of that 3.4 cap savings, sign another LHD, and scratch that guy after he looks rough game 1.

I myself would’ve just kept the guy we had as well as the 2nd. Alas.

Well first of all, it bears repeating that the 2nd in question was in the Wings' possession for literally a matter of minutes. We didn't really lose anything.

And that's some real revisionist history about Walman's 2023/24 campaign. He was awful, and routinely left himself completely out of position and saddled Seider with the fallout (which happened to be Seider's worst season so far, doubt that's a coincidence). That's not to mention the hand grenade passes he would send Seider's way which often led to Seider 'giving away' the puck. Not exactly an ideal D partner. A few flashy goals doesn't undo that, it barely even mitigates it.

And the mistakes weren't even the worst part of it, it was the lack of commitment to the team's success. Pretty darn damning when no one mourns your departure and Larkin all but called him out by name on the lack of commitment. This team is better off without that influence in the dressing room and on the ice. He was moved for a pick that was gained in a swap of evenly-ranked prospects, it was a total freebie. So on a net basis, he was moved for nothing.

I really hope this nothingburger doesn't metastasize and become the new Hudler vs Hossa debate that we'll hear about for years on end. I stopped caring about it within roughly 5 minutes. Why dwell on shedding an underperforming defensive liability who lacks effort and commitment?

As far as Gustafsson goes, shouldn't we give him a little bit of time to find his groove with a new team before rendering a verdict?

 

[MabusIncarnate]

It would be cool if I didn't have to have a streaming app to watch the game. I'm tired of certain games being exclusive to shit I don't own and don't want to pay for.

At least for the most part the ESPN+ is a hell of a lot better than NHL Center Ice ever was, NHL Network can go burn in a fire though. It's mildly improved over the years, but it's never gonna be easy access to all games all season on one service unfortunately.

 

[dalem177]

"It's said that dangers often hide at home, but it's never been said that the Rangers hide at home, and tonight they're out on the ice at the LCA for the second half of their "home and away" series with Detroit. The Wings have not really shown themselves to be a dangerous team so far in this young season, so if they want to start building that reputation, they'll need to start quick, and start getting pucks past Jonathan Quick in net for sure."

- Plausible Keats

 

[dalem177]

At least the ESPN+ landing page says to "come back when it starts" instead of letting you believe it will refresh into a game page now.

 

[stillwater]

I have plenty of patience for Gustafsson.

That said, pretty funny that Walman getting scratched a handful of games, clearly battling injury, was many posters’ justification for why he actually sucked and it made sense to ship a 2nd to get out of his deal.

If that's what you believe, you're clearly well removed the actual reasoning.

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

Well first of all, it bears repeating that the 2nd in question was in the Wings' possession for literally a matter of minutes. We didn't really lose anything.

The idea that the value of a 2nd round pick is determined by how long it’s in a team’s possession completely defies logic. I cannot believe how often that’s used as a justification for the move. Trumped only by the ever-evolving future considerations hope that ran rampant for a while here.

And that's some real revisionist history about Walman's 2023/24 campaign. He was awful, and routinely left himself completely out of position and saddled Seider with the fallout (which happened to be Seider's worst season so far, doubt that's a coincidence). That's not to mention the hand grenade passes he would send Seider's way which often led to Seider 'giving away' the puck. Not exactly an ideal D partner. A few flashy goals doesn't undo that, it barely even mitigates it.

Wow, sounds like he is one of the worst defensemen of all time. I guess I really was being revisionist!

And the mistakes weren't even the worst part of it, it was the lack of commitment to the team's success. Pretty darn damning when no one mourns your departure and Larkin all but called him out by name on the lack of commitment. This team is better off without that influence in the dressing room and on the ice. He was moved for a pick that was gained in a swap of evenly-ranked prospects, it was a total freebie. So on a net basis, he was moved for nothing.

I really hope this nothingburger doesn't metastasize and become the new Hudler vs Hossa debate that we'll hear about for years on end. I stopped caring about it within roughly 5 minutes. Why dwell on shedding an underperforming defensive liability who lacks effort and commitment?

If the team hated him, fair enough. I suspect that may have been the case, but I have no way of knowing beyond what people have speculated on message boards. That’s not something I’m going to evaluate the trade based on.

Hossa>Hudler AINEC.

The trade happened a few months ago. It was a significant offseason before the season that literally just started. I don’t understand why folks are so defensive about it being discussed on occasion.

As far as Gustafsson goes, shouldn't we give him a little bit of time to find his groove with a new team before rendering a verdict?

Yes, that’s why I said as much in the first sentence of my post.

If that's what you believe, you're clearly well removed the actual reasoning.

Well removed the actual reasoning is the title of my next EP. It’s almost finished, just gotta make sure I get the reverb juuust right.