Post-Game Talk: GAME #37 - B's hibernate for first 10 minutes and it cost them - Columbus 4 BRUINS 3

[Ryan77]

What are all these holes? I just read back up goalie and replacing Hayes.

To compare to a house it's the equivalent to putting in storm windows and cleaning out the gutter

So you believe that if we replace our backup goalie and sit Hayes we are a contender?

 

[chizzler]

I don't get the people here who post well they played a good game it's no big deal. It's a huge deal, this league is about getting points and winning hockey games. Sure they lost to a good team tonight and outplayed them for 50 mins but a week ago they lost to the Colorado avalanche and New York islanders all on home ice. We need to start winning games not talking about how well this team played for 20 mins in that game. Good teams win games even when they don't play their best hockey.

This team has a lot of holes and at this point if ownership and management still look at the Bruins as a playoff team they are insane.

Boston is very fortunate that Florida had some early injuries/management issues and TB is also struggling with injuries or else we would be in January thinking to next season.

Something needs to change here and Sweeney needs to show he can make a hockey trade, and I don't mean picking up players like Stempniak and Liles. I won't pretend to know what the trade market is like as I'm not a GM or a hockey insider but get something done.

I'm one of those. Yah it is a huge deal in regards to points. The way I look at it, this team is not put together very well. It'll be up and down all year. Id like to be entertained while this retool is going on. Last night I was entertained. Not so much in recent games.

 

[Dr Hook]

What are all these holes? I just read back up goalie and replacing Hayes.

To compare to a house it's the equivalent to putting in storm windows and cleaning out the gutter

Can't see where we are far off what you are saying. A backup who can win +/- 50% of his starts, a solid 3rd line player that can put up a (prorated) 30-40 points that will bump Nash to the 4th line and Hayes to the waiver wire and (all else being equal to this point in the season) we have a team that can make the playoffs and maybe even win a round or two.

The biggest concern for me coming out the CBJ game is the tendency for this team to disappear for stretches. Even when they are relatively short stretches, 10 minutes like last night, the damage was done. Take the rest of the 50 minutes of play and we beat CBJ handily 3-1 and make them look average at best.

 

[OldScool]

Real issues that this team needs fixed and soon:

Bergeron - I know the Golden Child but seriously his play and lack of production needs to be addressed. 5-5-10 points for $6.875 million is abysmal. I dont give a crap about an extra 7% chance of winning faceoffs at this point.

Khudobin - Doesnt take a nhl scout to see his isnt that great of a goalie. If the Bruins are going to rest Rask so much they need a top backup not just a backup for emergencies.

Hayes - enough. already. we. get. it.

Even with these fixes this team is what it is - a fringe playoff team.

 

[mjhfb]

Agreed, but IMHO those lapses could be minimized with a calming and *consistent* presence on defense. Chara used to be that before he slowed down and started making more turnovers than a south end bakery...

 

[ReggieMoto]

So with what we have seen so far this year the question is; Will the Bruins make the play-offs??

I say no, mainly because Tampa will eventually come out of their slump...

Why does Tampa come out of their slump but the Bruins don't?

All of the injuries appear to be finally behind the team, with the potential exception of Bergeron and that's assuming he is injured which I think he is. Krug is snapping out of his funk, Krejci is beginning to come around, Vatrano is back. I think the Bruins are poised to make a rebound once the team's returning players get back up to game speed. Of course, Pastrnak and Marchand have cooled off, but that's temporary.

I will say that like Tampa the Bruins will come out of their slump, make the playoffs and possibly compete in the second round.

 

[the overrated]

Why does Tampa come out of their slump but the Bruins don't?

All of the injuries appear to be finally behind the team, with the potential exception of Bergeron and that's assuming he is injured which I think he is. Krug is snapping out of his funk, Krejci is beginning to come around, Vatrano is back. I think the Bruins are poised to make a rebound once the team's returning players get back up to game speed. Of course, Pastrnak and Marchand have cooled off, but that's temporary.

I will say that like Tampa the Bruins will come out of their slump, make the playoffs and possibly compete in the second round.

In my mind, it's not just about the good players that are underperforming coming out of their slumps, but the fact that there's a handful (5, arguably 6) guys that are greatly exceeding expectations right now and are largely carrying the team; what if those players fall back to earth?

For the B's to do anything in the post-season, they need those players to maintain their levels AND have the underperforming guys get back ASAP. Because it's just as likely that the players that are playing extra well will decline as it is that the other guys improve to their expected levels.

 

[NDiesel]

For me, it depends on who they add and at what cost. More like the likes of Stempniak and JML would be a pass for me. They already have enough middle of the road, JAGs on the roster. If you're going to do something, go bold and get a piece that you really need and one that can be here longer than a couple of months.

100% agree. He's most likely adding another bottom 2 d/bottom 6 forward, but I'd love to see him go out and get a decent top 6 forward or top 4 D, I think that would actually be a big boost to this team. We need someone to take playing time from Chara (getting too old) and McQuaid (shouldn't be top 4) or a forward who can play right wing to replace Backes so that we can roll with 3 solid centers.

But I find it doubtful that Sweeney does too much.

Realistically I'd like to see:

Marchand-Bergeron-Pasta
Vatrano-Krejci-Trade Piece
Spooner-Backes-Czarnik
Blidh-Moore-Acciari-Hayes-Beleskey-Nash (one likely gets traded, another sent down)

Chara-Carlo
Krug-Trade Piece
Liles-Morrow-Millers-McQuaid (again one likely traded or waived or whatever)

I think something along the lines of the above could actually do something in the playoffs. We have a ton of prospects, trade a couple at whichever position you feel the strongest.

 

[DKH]

So you believe that if we replace our backup goalie and sit Hayes we are a contender?

I read that here didn't say my take on what I do

 

[Dr Hook]

100% agree. He's most likely adding another bottom 2 d/bottom 6 forward, but I'd love to see him go out and get a decent top 6 forward or top 4 D, I think that would actually be a big boost to this team. We need someone to take playing time from Chara (getting too old) and McQuaid (shouldn't be top 4) or a forward who can play right wing to replace Backes so that we can roll with 3 solid centers.

But I find it doubtful that Sweeney does too much.

So the question is who/what do we give up to get that? There isn't anyone on our roster that we can do without (or doesn't have an NMC) that would also bring that sort of return.

 

[DarrenBanks56]

rask had a rough game. goals 1&4 were weak.

but if we swapped krejci and begeron last nite. we win.
krejci was motoring yesterday.

bergie either needs to be #2 or #3 center.

krejci needs some scorers.

 

[Mpasta]

I read that here didn't say my take on what I do

You said last week that with a better backup we could make a deep playoff run.

I know you were doing your normal shtick but even with a better backup, this team still can't score goals.

 

[Mpasta]

So the question is who/what do we give up to get that? There isn't anyone on our roster that we can do without (or doesn't have an NMC) that would also bring that sort of return.

Nope, you're right.

And when we give up prospects/draft picks/good players and still miss the playoffs, the same people will complain about that too.

I don't want to make a move this year to mortgage the future and still finish in 9th place kind of like we did last year to a lesser degree.

 

[NDiesel]

So the question is who/what do we give up to get that? There isn't anyone on our roster that we can do without (or doesn't have an NMC) that would also bring that sort of return.

It probably takes picks/prospects/a younger roster player like Morrow, Miller, Vatrano, Czarnik, Spooner etc.

The question is would trading those guys be worth it in the long term or even short term? Depends who comes back obviously...

 

[Dr Hook]

It probably takes picks/prospects/a younger roster player like Morrow, Miller, Vatrano, Czarnik, Spooner etc.

The question is would trading those guys be worth it in the long term or even short term? Depends who comes back obviously...

Can we just say no to the JML/Stempniak types please I would only want something to give away a good prospect/emerging NHLer and picks for someone that has proven skills and will be here longer than a rental. I think whatever we do mid-season for a top 4 d or top 6 wing that can score would have a pretty steep price tag. If we are that one piece away from seriously contending, then it's worth it. I'd like to see where we are in another 20 games or so standings-wise?

 

[NDiesel]

Can we just say no to the JML/Stempniak types please I would only want something to give away a good prospect/emerging NHLer and picks for someone that has proven skills and will be here longer than a rental. I think whatever we do mid-season for a top 4 d or top 6 wing that can score would have a pretty steep price tag. If we are that one piece away from seriously contending, then it's worth it. I'd like to see where we are in another 20 games or so standings-wise?

I definitely agree with you. No more borderline players, let's get some that could actually help us shorter and longer term or don't get anyone at all.

 

[ReggieMoto]

In my mind, it's not just about the good players that are underperforming coming out of their slumps, but the fact that there's a handful (5, arguably 6) guys that are greatly exceeding expectations right now and are largely carrying the team; what if those players fall back to earth?

Who in your mind is playing over their heads?

I'm going to leave defense alone right now because, frankly, I think they are by-and-large getting the job done. Sweens could add a guy and that would be good.

Goaltending is an issue but there is a solution and he's in Providence right now. Bring Zane up and send Dobbie down.

Marchand -- Bergeron -- Pastrnak
Two guys who have gone cold and one that is struggling because of it. I am not worried. If Bergeron is cooked for the season (big 'if' and I don't see it) then the team is sunk. Marchand will come around (we've seen this before with him and he's always come around).

Spooner -- Krejci -- Backes
I have no problem with this line at all. Now that Krejci's waking up I think it will be fine. Lots of energy.

Vatrano -- Czarnik -- Nash
Frankie "Vats" needs to get back into game shape. I don't have half the problem with Nash that a lot of others seem to. Czarnik is fine, too.

Blidh -- Moore -- Hayes/Acciari
I don't have any problem with this line, either. Hayes on the 4th line is right where he should be. Moore and Blidh are performing well too. Acciari is also capable here so there's that.

I just don't see any reason to panic yet. I think this team playing to its potential -- not over its head -- is capable of getting the Bs into the playoffs. It's not a cup contender.

 

[Fenway]

Torts was unhappy after the game




Highlights

 

[JCRO]

Torts was unhappy after the game




Highlights

He has his points. And Im not saying I disagree with some of them. But he can be a real *** when it comes to making them. Especially in interviews

I will say he is a little more conservative compared to how he used to be however.

 

[Orrfourever]

I just don't see any reason to panic yet. .

Exactly.

 

[Estlin]

Torts was unhappy after the game

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There is a Tim Horton's in Columbus?!

 

[Mpasta]

Torts was unhappy after the game

Wow, talk about a clickbait title on that first video.

"Gotta See It: Tortorella ready to burn game tape after slopfest between Blue Jackets & Bruins"

 

[Dr Hook]

Wow, talk about a clickbait title on that first video.

"Gotta See It: Tortorella ready to burn game tape after slopfest between Blue Jackets & Bruins"

Yeah, instead of the throwaway remark it was, you expect an epic rant of some sort

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

Tortorella is making a lot of people eat their ****.

I certainly was one of those people saying "how the **** does this guy still get hired?", but he's doing something right. I understand Columbus has young talent, but it's pretty difficult to skyrocket to the top of the league in a calendar year. It has to have at least a bit to do with coaching.

I know we're still early, but I am more than impressed.

 

[OldScool]

Tortorella is making a lot of people eat their ****.

I certainly was one of those people saying "how the **** does this guy still get hired?", but he's doing something right. I understand Columbus has young talent, but it's pretty difficult to skyrocket to the top of the league in a calendar year. It has to have at least a bit to do with coaching.

I know we're still early, but I am more than impressed.

They discussed last night that Torts has the team do tons of fitness/cardio training so they don't wear down in the game…stuff most players hate but the results prove that he knows what he is doing.