GDT: GAME 3 PANDAS @ HURRICANES

[Navin R Slavin]

Win the next game, and see what happens.

 

[zman77]

Overall, the boys played a strong game.
Out=shot & Out-Hit Boston.


Tuukka Rask has been outstanding in Goal.

Sean Tierney‏ @ChartingHockey 16h16 hours ago

Goalie charts are updated.
Lots of different viz options here too, all of which are handy for
proving that Tuukka Rask has been excellent. Tableau Public
pic.twitter.com/wjgZgxMgPc

 

[Brad Meador]

Hard to believe that after Rask has been playing lights out and that's what happens when goalies are in the zone, the puck somehow just finds him, that a 'soft' goal was the only goal we scored. Right through his pads.

Of all the chances we had it was a 'soft' goal. Unbelievable.

But yes, win Thursday and see what happens. I do know that Rask won't keep up this play the rest of the playoffs. If Boston makes the SC Finals, which they more than likely will, watch Rask get lit up that entire series.

 

[Identity404]

Why not sit Fleury for Bean and try him on the PP. How many minutes is Fleury even getting, I don't even recall seeing him. We wouldn't even really have to give Bean any ES time. What do we have to lose?

 

[TheBigKahuna]

Win the next game, and see what happens.

It drags out to a 5th and final game. That's what happens.

 

[Svechhammer]

I'm most disappointed that we aren't even making this a series. We're a better team than this, but we have looked completely off our game from the start. The long break between series hurts, but it shouldn't hurt that bad. We're just doing the little things wrong and it all snowballs during the games.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

It drags out to a 5th and final game. That's what happens.

Better than losing in 4.

 

[Sens1Canes2]

I'm most disappointed that we aren't even making this a series. We're a better team than this, but we have looked completely off our game from the start. The long break between series hurts, but it shouldn't hurt that bad. We're just doing the little things wrong and it all snowballs during the games.

This. And, Williams doing his worst impersonation of ... I don’t know who. I’m at a loss to explain his behavior.

Also, this is KINDA what can happen when you have essentially two backup goalies playing really well for you. They can play a series where you don’t outright blame them for losses, but they don’t steal any games either. Both goals last night were save-able, but ones I wouldn’t get mad at either. For the Canes to beat the Bruins in the series, I felt like there had to be one or two games that were outright stolen.

 

[3CanesInTheBox]

Rod also said himself that he thought the team was "mentally fatigued". That was a HUGE red flag for me; but I was hoping maybe they could push through it.

That being said, the effort was mostly there last night. They just can't finish and are playing a skilled, experienced team with a hot goalie. Sucks to be us.

 

[AD Skinner]

I know its major what if territory but if turbo buries that shot 15 seconds in it's a completely different game. I hated seeing that and thinking "oh God that's probably the game" but I totally did. He seemed to have a hard time handling the puck all game and I can't help but think it was in his head and everyone else's

 

[Chrispy]

The more I look at the PP the one thing I think we could use just as much as Necas being the real deal is Bean developing in to a legit QB. Slavin is far too methodic with the puck to be that guy, Faulk and Dougie are pure trigger men, and we need Aho/Turbo running one of the side walls. If Bean can step in and be that guy then we may be in business, especially if Necas is likewise legit.

Agreed. I think there needs to be a better opportunity for Bean to make the team next year, even though that will involve trading at least one D and maybe 2 among the top 8.

I suppose you can have Bean as #7, run 11/7 and give him PP time, but that doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Pair Bean with Pesce and let Bean run the PP with Faulk and/or Hamilton. Keep Fleury/McKeown as #7.

Is it risky? Maybe, but I feel like it's less risky than going into 19-20 with Necas as the only PP addition.

 

[Svechhammer]

I know its major what if territory but if turbo buries that shot 15 seconds in it's a completely different game. I hated seeing that and thinking "oh God that's probably the game" but I totally did. He seemed to have a hard time handling the puck all game and I can't help but think it was in his head and everyone else's

And it wasn't just that one. We had puck on stick looking at an open net no less than 3 or 4 times last night and we missed on them all. Yeah, that one set the tone, but there were so, so many other opportunities to turn it around, and we just flat out missed.

 

[3CanesInTheBox]

And it wasn't just that one. We had puck on stick looking at an open net no less than 3 or 4 times last night and we missed on them all. Yeah, that one set the tone, but there were so, so many other opportunities to turn it around, and we just flat out missed.

The 5 on 3 was the dagger for me. Most of the time you see a team choke those away in a crucial moment, it doesn't end well for them. Yesterday was no exception.

 

[Chrispy]

I know its major what if territory but if turbo buries that shot 15 seconds in it's a completely different game. I hated seeing that and thinking "oh God that's probably the game" but I totally did. He seemed to have a hard time handling the puck all game and I can't help but think it was in his head and everyone else's

I don't know about it being in his head, but I definitely think the crowd gets the team amped even higher if Turbo hits that one immediately. The attitude quickly goes back to "this is how we play at home", and we've seen all year how much better this team is with a lead than playing from behind.

I think they could have easily overcome that TT miss if one of the other 1st period chances had hit. Heading into intermission at 0-0 was a little deflating.

 

[GoCanes2015]

Who was it that passed across ice on the 5-on-3 right onto a Bruin's stick? Or was that on the 5-on-4?

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Who was it that passed across ice on the 5-on-3 right onto a Bruin's stick? Or was that on the 5-on-4?

I could list literally anyone on the PP and none of them should come as a surprise.

 

[Svechhammer]

Agreed. I think there needs to be a better opportunity for Bean to make the team next year, even though that will involve trading at least one D and maybe 2 among the top 8.

I suppose you can have Bean as #7, run 11/7 and give him PP time, but that doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Pair Bean with Pesce and let Bean run the PP with Faulk and/or Hamilton. Keep Fleury/McKeown as #7.

Is it risky? Maybe, but I feel like it's less risky than going into 19-20 with Necas as the only PP addition.

Fixing the PP has to be the #1 priority this offseason. Bring in a coach who knows what he is doing with that scheme, and bring in some guys who have proven they know how to run it. The guys we have right now have proven they can't do it. Period. Call the spade a spade and bring in someone that knows what they're doing. We have the most cap room in the league, f***ing use it.

The 5 on 3 was the dagger for me. Most of the time you see a team choke those away in a crucial moment, it doesn't end well for them. Yesterday was no exception.

Yep. The PP has been a joke. We need to get that fixed. The fact that we're operating at something like 6% on the playoffs is a goddamn embarrassment and has allowed our opponents to play beyond the line against us because there is no worry we'll make them pay when they sit in the box. Boston has physically bullied us and gotten us into mental breakdowns this series by just being pricks to us on the ice and taking penalties, and we've not been able to make them pay. The biggest thing that can get us from where we are to where we want to be is to make our Power Play an actual threat.

 

[The S5]

I know Rod seems to have an affinity for Faulk, but I can't figure out why. Last night, he played a major role in both goals against.
He has made too many major blunders during the playoffs to be considered a part of this teams future.
I truly hope that management moves on from this guy and brings in a offensive minded veteran to fill his shoes. Hell, I would take Gardiner. They both stink at defending, but Gardiner brings more offense.

With any luck, Necas is ready to go next year. Bean makes strides and makes the big club and management brings in another scorer. Svech has already shown that he is ready to breakout. Just get him out there with complementary players and he will tuck 30 next year.
The future looks bright!

 

[Navin R Slavin]

It drags out to a 5th and final game. That's what happens.

Thanks, Nostra-dumbass.

 

[Sigurd]

I love when people make the “what if” arguments. This is hockey. Boston has missed chances as well. “If only Kruger put it bar down on the slap shot this game wouldn’t have been close.” Part of being a good team is finishing chances. If you can’t well don’t cry about “what if’s”

Hurricanes' early miss magnified in Game 3 loss to Bruins

Would you look at that. The NHL's website has an article headline about a huge missed opportunity in the first period by the Hurricanes. Huh, guess even the experts think it is worth discussing.

Also, as BigRedMachine asked, I wonder what your reason was to post this on our board after a brutal loss.

 

[vorbis]

it feels like the brutal power play performance has infected the rest of the game. really a worst case scenario for trying to get by with a crappy 5-on-4 team element. it changes how the other team plays 5 on 5, and narrows the win conditions significantly. this isn't news, but it has fully festered.

 

[sctvman]

Interesting that last night’s Raleigh TV ratings were a point and a half lower than Game 3 of the Isles series. Maybe some people were watching basketball all night.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Weird that last night’s Raleigh TV ratings were a point and a half lower than Game 3 of the Isles series. Maybe some people were watching basketball all night.

Or it could simply be that watching a 3rd game where you're up 2-0 in the series is more entertaining than one when you're down 2-0?

 

[tarheelhockey]

The more I look at the PP the one thing I think we could use just as much as Necas being the real deal is Bean developing in to a legit QB. Slavin is far too methodic with the puck to be that guy, Faulk and Dougie are pure trigger men, and we need Aho/Turbo running one of the side walls. If Bean can step in and be that guy then we may be in business, especially if Necas is likewise legit.

That hits the nail on the head. The pieces are there, and on the verge of moving up. If they come as advertised, the PP changes dramatically in the space of a season or two.

I agree with @Drivebytrucker that Svech also looks like a PP natural and changes the dynamic. Between Svech, Aho, Turbo, Hamilton, Faulk, Necas, Bean, we potentially have a great first unit and a start on a second unit.

 

[My Special Purpose]

I love when people make the “what if” arguments. This is hockey. Boston has missed chances as well. “If only Kruger put it bar down on the slap shot this game wouldn’t have been close.” Part of being a good team is finishing chances. If you can’t well don’t cry about “what if’s”

I love when people come to another board, pull a comment out of context, miss the point completely, and make an a$$ out of themselves for absolutely no reason.

My "what if" on those four particular high-danger chances for the Hurricanes was to rebut the "Rask is God" narrative that has taken hold the past two rounds. We missed the net on four Grade A chances last night. Rask needn't be there for any of them.

Please be mindful of your avatar, Leafy, before you tell another board how to "fan." Part of being a good team is keeping the puck our of your net, as well, something Boy Wonder in Toronto hasn't figured out yet.