GDT: Game 29: Coyotes @ Wild - 11am (AZ) - FSA - Unofficial Fire Tocchet #3 Thread.

Hideki N

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I think so too, but it worries me a little. Might be a blessing in disguise for contract negotiations though
The Wild line centered by Eriksson Ek is one of the best defensive lines in hockey. He's running an xGF% of 67% and 98-percentile in defensive impact among qualified forwards.
 

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#FireTocchet

We can't be this inept on offense. When you're only expecting around 20 sog a game, there is no way you can even get close to averaging 3 goals per game. I'm tired of watching this dumpster fire team. I won't stop watching, but I'm getting angrier and angrier with each passing game.
I agree. We all know we need more talent, but every year it's the same thing. Crappy PP, no game adjustments, and getting out shot and outplayed most games and rely on outstanding goal tending for any chance of a win. Fire RT and let Joe Blow take over for the rest of the year and see what players respond and who doesn't. We have to know who we want to keep before TTD. Not impressed with who BA brought in this year, so for me that is already strike one, even though I would give him GM of the year for getting rid of Mr. Bud Light :) I know most like Pitlick, and he puts out every shift, but he is a third or fourth liner, and should be nowhere near the first line. Our bottom six stink to high heaven and put no fear into other teams.
 

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This is a good point, you could forgive mistakes if the effort was there consistently like it was early in the season but the malaise is starting up again. Sad to see.

It's like what was being talked about in another thread, someone was saying we don't need a great coach because we don't have a great roster and aren't going to win a cup right now or whatever. Well okay sure but we need a coach who can develop players and implement a system that has a chance of success. You can't develop players under such a malaise.

It's why XX is right about leaving Soderstrom down too. Having him up here right now wouldn't help anybody.
Could probably extend the same sentiment to Hayton unfortunately, even though he's older and the clock is starting to tick a bit.
Early in the season, no preseason, it was open ice hockey, no team had real game plans in place. Now all teams have game plans in place an systems working, except for the Coyotes of course. This game is just another example. I thought coming into the season, the Wild were down this year, they look like cup contenders against us now.
 
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This thread reminded me that DST even exists. I looked up 2 p.m. eastern yesterday and was confused at 11 a.m. Arizona time. This is the fourth time I’ve ever had to deal with living in a location that observes it.

DST is stupid.
Yeah, this threw me off too. We didn't have it in Queensland, but now I'm in South Australia and they do it, but it doesn't align with North America, so now 4 times per year I have to adjust. Plus South Australia is off by half an hour for absolutely no good reason.
 

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Looks like it's permanently back to the good old ways where they are so inept at offense when they do manage to get it in the zone, after being so inept at transitioning from defense to offense, that they instead get to spend the entire game playing defense. Hard to expect offense when you just never get to play it. It makes the constant missing of the net sting so much more because it's just so difficult for them to achieve getting the puck advanced that far up the ice with possession.

I suspect that guys are so worried about messing up because offense is hard to come by that it's causing them to slip up when they get the puck in the offensive zone. The pressure to perform is getting in their heads. This is what Fischer and Crouse have been going through all season, now the rest of the team seems has it. Changes need to made to the schemes so they failing at the few chances they get isn't what determines the game's outcome.

One last point, this was game 28, so halfway through the season. That might not mean a lot, but it is a nice number to make a coaching change. Maybe Armstrong was told to not make a change until the midway point of the season. Well that's past now, and recent results aren't encouraging for Tocchet, so just maybe...
 

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Before the season I thought we’d be the league’s 10th worst team. We’re currently in a 3-way tie foe 10th worst.
What made you think that? Our coaching, talent or both? I thought we would be a bubble team and the way it looks now we will miss the playoffs. It will be hard to make up five points in twenty six games having played more games than the teams above us. Chayka with that Hall trade and the cheating fiasco losing two first rounders is really going to hurt going forward.
 
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Jakey53

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I mean, it's Garland's MO. He is incredibly streaky. It's why I cringe at a possible overpayment for him when his contract comes up.
He is getting beat up almost every game. Other teams have taken notice that Garland leads the Yotes in scoring and are playing him different now. The same thing has happened to OEL for years. We need someone like a Reaves etc. to police this type of behavior. If we don't, I can guarantee you that Garland won't last as long as OEL has.
 

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I mean, it's Garland's MO. He is incredibly streaky. It's why I cringe at a possible overpayment for him when his contract comes up.

Not for lack of effort, which is very consistent. One potential problem is if he and his agent compare his production to that of Keller and Schmaltz...and then look at their contracts. No Coyote has scored more goals over the past 3 seasons than Garland. He's earned a Schmaltz level contract, but Keller's is too rich.
 

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What made you think that? Our coaching, talent or both? I thought we would be a bubble team and the way it looks now we will miss the playoffs. It will be hard to make up five points in twenty six games having played more games than the teams above us. Chayka with that Hall trade and the cheating fiasco losing two first rounders is really going to hurt going forward.
We were the 10th worst team last year pre-pandemic. I didn’t see enough in the off-season to alter my expectations.
 

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He is getting beat up almost every game. Other teams have taken notice that Garland leads the Yotes in scoring and are playing him different now. The same thing has happened to OEL for years. We need someone like a Reaves etc. to police this type of behavior. If we don't, I can guarantee you that Garland won't last as long as OEL has.
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He is getting beat up almost every game. Other teams have taken notice that Garland leads the Yotes in scoring and are playing him different now. The same thing has happened to OEL for years. We need someone like a Reaves etc. to police this type of behavior. If we don't, I can guarantee you that Garland won't last as long as OEL has.

I can't argue with any of this, but it also bears mentioning that Garland's streakiness predates his offensive breakout. I've pointed it out several times in the past. Even if we had a "bad cop" watching his back, Garland would still have his stretches of disappearing act.

The question is, come contract time, is about 3/4ths of a season's worth of production worth big money? Do you pay him like a star hoping that someday he excises this pattern from his game?
 

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I can't argue with any of this, but it also bears mentioning that Garland's streakiness predates his offensive breakout. I've pointed it out several times in the past. Even if we had a "bad cop" watching his back, Garland would still have his stretches of disappearing act.

The question is, come contract time, is about 3/4ths of a season's worth of production worth big money? Do you pay him like a star hoping that someday he excises this pattern from his game?
8yrs, 45mil. He can just not worry about contracts and money and stuff ever again. He can just get that all over with in one shot.
 

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Going back to the goalie convo, Hill vs Raanta, who do you think plays next game vs Minny (Tues March 16th)? Most likely they split the 2 starts vs Anaheim after that.
 

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