Steve Yzerlland
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GDT: Game 24: Red Wings vs canucks 12:30 pm et 12/1/24
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The good free agents will come. They just want to go to good team. We just have to get better. I don’t think Kane was a bad signing. There wasn’t too much griping when he signed. 70 points was a reasonable expectation after what he did last year. Didn’t Tarasenko score23 goals last year. Not sure what we got him for but it wasn’t a bad pickup. They just haven’t panned out. 2-3 other returning vets are not pullling their weight. Maybe hat number could be 4-5. Watson should be called up. Even Soderbloom could raise some hell for a few games on the fourth line. Why not try Tuo or Buium for a couple of games. That’s why you have a farm system. If both of our goalies are out for an extended period we are in deep trouble. I don’t want Costa here with this defense
He started this year looking good, too. Ras has looked good at times. But neither have been able to maintain the progress they appear to make.
stillwater
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None of the goals were a "fluke". He was at the net, where he's supposed to be. Both goal-scorers goals.
HisNoodliness
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Hockey is an aggressive sport and if you don't keep pressing the other team, you are doomed. The defensive shell strategy has been shown time and again to be more detrimental defensively than being aggressive. Sometimes a good team manages to weather the storm, and that survivorship bias combines with a fearful coach's aversion to liability to justify what is objectively an awful choice and awful system. It looks worse when you lose a one goal lead because you gave up an odd man rush against than when you give up the lead because you committed to managing risk but a shot from the point managed to get deflected in. The first, the coach feels like was their and the team's fault while the latter feels like unavoidable bad luck. That's the only reason this system is used. It's just fear.
If the other team knows that you're not trying to score, they have total impunity with the puck. They can make risky plays and count on the fact that they'll just get it back if the risk fails. Their D can press forward without fear. Their forwards can play loose and free. Defending is demoralizing and exhausting. Playing offense is fun and invigorating. You give away all of the momentum when you play to manage risk. I'd genuinely rather that we play every minute of every game like we're down a goal than ever play this way. I'd rather that we continue to generate offense, and put fear in our opponents instead of becoming afraid ourselves. If we have the puck in the defensive end and we're choosing between systems that result in these outcomes:
System 1: 2 dangerous opportunities for, 3 benign opportunities for, 3 benign opportunities against, 2 dangerous opportunities against
System 2: 2 benign offensive opportunities for, 8 benign opportunities against
I will take system 1 every single time, even if we're winning by one goal with the clock running down. Even when the other team scores on you, if you're running system 1, your team can recover. If you're running system 2, it's so hard to switch back to an aggressive mentality. It's so hard to get the other team off their game again. Once you start playing system 2, you've accepted losing the rest of the game. You just hope to lose sufficiently slowly that you're still ahead at the end. Choosing system 2 screams to everyone "we don't think we deserve the lead we have. We believe that we're the worse team and we're desperate to turn our lucky lead into a win. We believe that if we lose this lead, that we cannot recover." We choose system 2 every time, and we lose because of it.
Safe is death.
hes playing on a better team ... I wouldnt want to give a 7 yr term to him,sure canucks will hate it midway in
Right now I'd try and make trades for younger guys who might be available. wasn't needed cause we have pellikka but wild gave up squat for jiricek with the 1st being a late pick. Ducks got gauthier for a failing prospect
Next kid with upside who wants out we should be in on. Deal veleno,tarasenko, eat $ on copp ... I don't care hes scoreless call up soderblom,make a deal for a kakko ... thats what I want right now. Add kids who need a change of scenery who's not on their 4th team
It's still too early so I'll be rooting for them but pulling a devils and landing a hagens/Schaeffer/misa and bouncing back next season with a playoff spot would be the best thing longterm
stillwater
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After the Wings went up 4-3, Quinn Hughes controlled the puck for 5X longer than all the Wings combined for the remainder of the game.
It just doesn't seem to matter who the opponent is. It seems when they need to completely control the puck from the Wings, they can. It's been the same bullshit for almost a decade now. I mean, no NHL teams can be this bad for extended periods every f***ing game, right?
Filip f***ing Zadina instead of Quinn.
It just doesn't seem to matter who the opponent is. It seems when they need to completely control the puck from the Wings, they can. It's been the same bullshit for almost a decade now. I mean, no NHL teams can be this bad for extended periods every f***ing game, right?
Filip f***ing Zadina instead of Quinn.
stillwater
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4 Nations Cup rosters being announced. Oddly, neither Chiarot or Petry were selected to represent their Country.
Hmm ....
Hmm ....
KJoe88
Forever Lost.
Sigh.
And here I was hoping we were going to win today because somehow they won the cup after starting the season 2-10 in my franchise mode in NHL.
Thought it was a good omen.
I GUESS NOT!
And here I was hoping we were going to win today because somehow they won the cup after starting the season 2-10 in my franchise mode in NHL.
Thought it was a good omen.
I GUESS NOT!
theYman
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Well we're at Pre-2019 levels now boys, meaning before that joke of a year winning only 17 games, lol. We're as bad as we were 6 years ago when we had Blashill. Nothing has changed. Even before Yzerman came back. Yzerman isn't off the hook either. The be patient bullshit is really wearing thin at this point.
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I think there's a middle ground between dangerous cross ice passes and going into a 1-2-2 , not even looking for an outlet pass from your own end instead repeatedly throwing high lobs to center ice.
It's not that I want the Wings to cheat for offense. I just don't want them to turn the puck over immediately in the interest of clearing the zone instead of looking for an outlet pass.
The Wings have a relatively easy next ten games coming up, going to most likely decide if they will be anywhere near the playoffs at the end of the season.
gritdash60
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Scored some goals, still the offensive game looks pretty bad. If not the last on goals for, probably in the bottom 5 in the league, and for sure same for shots on goal.
Oddbob
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No Dylan has been really bad at faking stuff this year so far. A bunch of falls of basically nothing stuff, and in one game he reacted like he got shot, on a slash that 100% didn't even hurt as the player that slashed him barely even made contact with his glove and it was a super weak slash.
GMR
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Sure, we saw how they did against "easy" opponents on the West coast trip.
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Feels like the season is truly over.
Boston realised a change was needed to keep the season alive. They made a change, and it's paying off.
This is slipping away quickly, almost closer to last in the league than 2nd wild-card spot.
Boston realised a change was needed to keep the season alive. They made a change, and it's paying off.
This is slipping away quickly, almost closer to last in the league than 2nd wild-card spot.
By the same token we saw Holl be near a guy who fell over and get called for tripping. Putting the refs into position to make a bad call isn't necessarily the worst tactic.
PelagicJoe
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I know we lost, but I am glad that we got contributions on offense from people who have either had a slow start or have been lacking, like Tarasenko, Gus, Kasper, Berggren, etc.
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Hm. I believe you but have watched a fair amount of games this season and don't particularly remember much that was along the lines of the Maltby stunt he tried pulling today.
Either way I definitely hope he knocks it off, not matter how frustrating this season has been.
It's probably an outdated notion but I'd rather not have guys flopping like Peterssen.
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Depending on which website you believe it looks like the Wings have over $3 million in cap space.
I still feel like Yzerman is probably going to take the conservative route of letting Lalonde play out his contract and seeing how the season plays out, then likely selling at the deadline. It might be the right move for the team, I can't really say for sure, but it's sure not gonna make for a fun season as a fan.
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