GDT: Game 24: Columbus at Toronto | 11/25 7PM EST

[Samkow]

7:00 PM EST
Air Canada Centre
Toronto, Ontario

Lines
Calvert-Anisimov-Atkinson
Foligno-Johansen-Jenner
Comeau-Letestu-Umberger
Skille-Chaput-Boll

Tyutin-Johnson
Nikitin-Savard
Murray-Wisniewski

Bobrovsky
McElhinney

Inactive
Erixon

Injured
Dubinsky, Gaborik, Horton, MacKenzie, Prout

Lines
Clarkson-Kadri-Lupul
van Riemsdyk-Holland-Kessel
Kulemin-McClement-Raymond
McLaren-Smithson-Orr

Phaneuf-Gunnarsson
Franson-Gardiner
Fraser-Rielly

Reimer
Bernier

Inactive
Bodie, Ranger, Smith

Injured
Bolland, Bozak​

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[1857 Howitzer]

“@jrimercbj: #CBJ winger Jared Boll attempted to skate but left early and is doubtful for tonight's game vs #mapleleafs”

“@jrimercbj: #1 In the it's hard to keep a man down category, Derek MacKenzie after saying he wouldn't likely play for the #CBJ 2nite took line rush”

 

[The Podium]

Bozak should be in, Holland out

Good luck tonight

 

[Stats01]

Your Leaf lines are way off

JVR-Bozak-Kessel
Lupul - Kadri - Clarkson
Raymond - McClement - Kulemin
Orr - Smithson - McClaren

 

[Speedy Sanderson]

It's the NHL's most valuable team ($) against it's least valuable. Apparently the Jackets are worth 15% of Toronto's enterprise value. I therefore expect us to score 15% as many goals as the Leafs this game. Final score 20-3.

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/...-blue-jackets-worth-quite-a-bit-less/related/

 

[blahblah]

No idea about the outcome, I'm about as invested in this team as they are in winning. Really don't care about the accuracies (or lack-there-of) of the Leafs lines.

On a side note; can't believe Raymond lasted as long as he did.

 

[blahblah]

It's the NHL's most valuable team ($) against it's least valuable. Apparently the Jackets are worth 15% of Toronto's enterprise value. I therefore expect us to score 15% as many goals as the Leafs this game. Final score 20-3.

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/...-blue-jackets-worth-quite-a-bit-less/related/

Should make it easier for Palinka to buy the team.

Even though I know you are trying to be funny; it is interesting to note that there are some good teams in the bottom 10 in value.

 

[major major]

Another shuffle of the line-omatic, though you can't fault Coach Richards for it when the bodies are on the shelf.

Basically with the exception of Johansen our top scoring threats are dinged up, our forward lines look almost like an AHL team. Arty's play is really killing us. He's had an awful month and if he can turn it around, it would look like an actual NHL roster.

Wasn't Calvert-Anisimov-Atkinson one of our best lines for a brief period last year, before Anisimov was put with Gaborik?

 

[Samkow]

This roadtrip seems disappointing because of the terrible Vancouver loss and the Jackets playing one of the worst games in their history against Edmonton, but a 3-2 roadtrip wouldn't be a failure in my eyes.

But with the 3 top forwards out for the game, I don't have high hopes for tonight, barring vezina Bob showing up.

Edit: And we only have 11 healthy forwards. Maybe we'll get to see JJ at forward after all.

 

[Speedy Sanderson]

Should make it easier for Palinka to buy the team.

Even though I know you are trying to be funny; it is interesting to note that there are some good teams in the bottom 10 in value.

There are some excellent teams in the bottom 10, for instance the Blues. The Jackets could ascend the value ladder if they start winning consistently, fill Nationwide and get more eyeballs on FSN Ohio. I firmly believe it will happen in the next 5 years.

As for tonight's game, I think the Jackets will play a spirited game, but it's so hard to see where the goals are going to come from.

 

[db2011]

I'm hopeful the refs will hand us this one, too

 

[Kev22]

“@jrimercbj: #CBJ winger Jared Boll attempted to skate but left early and is doubtful for tonight's game vs #mapleleafsâ€

“@jrimercbj: #1 In the it's hard to keep a man down category, Derek MacKenzie after saying he wouldn't likely play for the #CBJ 2nite took line rushâ€

Boll's hurt? Shocker. As for MacKenzie, I wish we had an entire franchise of guys with heart like Derek.

 

[major major]

There are some excellent teams in the bottom 10, for instance the Blues. The Jackets could ascend the value ladder if they start winning consistently, fill Nationwide and get more eyeballs on FSN Ohio. I firmly believe it will happen in the next 5 years.

As for tonight's game, I think the Jackets will play a spirited game, but it's so hard to see where the goals are going to come from.

The Forbes valuations have less to do with winning than you might think, the Blues are case in point. I'm not sure but I bet the income distribution in your market is a big part of the way they do the valuations - you could take a Columbus sized market and give it a highly-financialized economy and lots of millionaires, and voila, an expensive team.

 

[IHeartZherdev*]

Boll's hurt? Shocker. As for MacKenzie, I wish we had an entire franchise of guys with heart like Derek.

D Mac doesn't have more "heart" than other guys on the team. He is a marginal NHL player at best, he has to put 10 times the effort in to make basic hockey plays. He has terrible hands and frequently takes dumb penalties.

Just because the announcers and portzline go crazy everytime he blocks a shot doesn't make him "grittier" or more hardworking than a player with actual skill, like anisimov, atkonson, or johansen. I'd rather a team full of players with the skill, upside, and scoring ability of johansen than a team full of stone-handed shot blockers.

 

[ca5150]

Boll's hurt? Shocker. As for MacKenzie, I wish we had an entire franchise of guys with heart like Derek.

Are you really saying Boll has no heart? I don't disagree with Mac, I wish more guys were like him as well, but Boll is not one of them, a guy that has more fights in the NHL than any other player for the last 5 years or so, should never be questioned for heart, i'm sure if he can play, he will play.

 

[blahblah]

D Mac doesn't have more "heart" than other guys on the team. He is a marginal NHL player at best, he has to put 10 times the effort in to make basic hockey plays. He has terrible hands and frequently takes dumb penalties.

Just because the announcers and portzline go crazy everytime he blocks a shot doesn't make him "grittier" or more hardworking than a player with actual skill, like anisimov, atkonson, or johansen. I'd rather a team full of players with the skill, upside, and scoring ability of johansen than a team full of stone-handed shot blockers.

I would say that your impressions and comments are you own and don't reflect the opinions of nearly anyone on the planet. For MacKenzie or a host of other players.

 

[ca5150]

D Mac doesn't have more "heart" than other guys on the team. He is a marginal NHL player at best, he has to put 10 times the effort in to make basic hockey plays. He has terrible hands and frequently takes dumb penalties.

Just because the announcers and portzline go crazy everytime he blocks a shot doesn't make him "grittier" or more hardworking than a player with actual skill, like anisimov, atkonson, or johansen. I'd rather a team full of players with the skill, upside, and scoring ability of johansen than a team full of stone-handed shot blockers.

Not everyone on the team needs to be scorers to be a valuable member of the team. That's like saying a linebacker isn't as valuable as a tight end because he doesn't score touchdowns. That's ridiculous. Mac is a great fore-checker, brings speed, grit, gets under the skin of the other team and isn't afraid to drop them. You need guys like this on your team. Ask the 97-98 Red Wings how important the Grind Line of Kocur/Maltby/Draper/McCarty was to them winning?

 

[IHeartZherdev*]

Not everyone on the team needs to be scorers to be a valuable member of the team. That's like saying a linebacker isn't as valuable as a tight end because he doesn't score touchdowns. That's ridiculous. Mac is a great fore-checker, brings speed, grit, gets under the skin of the other team and isn't afraid to drop them. You need guys like this on your team. Ask the 97-98 Red Wings how important the Grind Line of Kocur/Maltby/Draper/McCarty was to them winning?

I didn't say teams didn't need role players. Disputing the notion that more players need the "heart" of mackenzie. Just because hockey does not come naturally to him and you can see him phsyically giving everything on a play doesn't mean he has more heart than the talented guys we have who don't have to over exert themselves and fall down everytime theyre in the offensive zone. I doubt we miss a beat without d mac in the lineup and dare say will be better without him and boll.

Not sure what the point of the red wings comment is...yes, 4th lines can be effective. Devils 4th line was hugely effective a couple years ago and helped them get to the finals. The CBJ's fourth line is not good or productive. It doesn't produce offense, energy, or shut doen other teams and isn't overly physical.

 

[1857 Howitzer]

“@Aportzline: #CBJ C Derek MacKenzie out tonight.”

“@BlueJacketsNHL: NEWS: #CBJ have added Sean Collins to the roster on emergency recall —> http://*******/Collins1125”

 

[ca5150]

I didn't say teams didn't need role players. Disputing the notion that more players need the "heart" of mackenzie. Just because hockey does not come naturally to him and you can see him phsyically giving everything on a play doesn't mean he has more heart than the talented guys we have who don't have to over exert themselves and fall down everytime theyre in the offensive zone. I doubt we miss a beat without d mac in the lineup and dare say will be better without him and boll.

Not sure what the point of the red wings comment is...yes, 4th lines can be effective. Devils 4th line was hugely effective a couple years ago and helped them get to the finals. The CBJ's fourth line is not good or productive. It doesn't produce offense, energy, or shut doen other teams and isn't overly physical.

I completely disagree with you, there have been quite a few nights that the 4th line has been our best line or ONLY line giving any energy or effort. Everyone loves to act like the 4th line is costing us games, they aren't the issue, EVER! If you want to look to the problems, they are rooted in the "top 6-9" not the bottom 3, really even the bottom 6 aren't the issue. It's the top 2 lines and the defense and occasionally Bob that is costing this team games.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

I doubt we miss a beat without d mac in the lineup and dare say will be better without him and boll.

“@BlueJacketsNHL: NEWS: #CBJ have added Sean Collins to the roster on emergency recall —> http://*******/Collins1125â€

Collins the lineup for Mackenzie. Still think the lineup is better without Derek in it?

 

[Fro]

Rob Mixer ‏@RobMixer 1m
With Sean Collins’ recall being voided, safe money is that #CBJ goes with 11 forwards and seven defensemen tonight in Toronto.

Todd Sharrock ‏@ToddSharrock 2m
#CBJ has voided emergency recall of F Sean Collins. Flight delays would've prevented his joining the club in Toronto for tonight's game.


so basically JmfJ goes in as a winger

 

[MFRONE]

Collins' flight was delayed so the Jackets voided his recall. Will go with 11 forwards and 7 dmen tonight per Rob Mixer

 

[IHeartZherdev*]

Collins the lineup for Mackenzie. Still think the lineup is better without Derek in it?

Yes...he's inconsiquential...if the our few good players play well, our D is ok and bob is on his game, we'll win. Games don't hinge of whether or not expendable 4th liners are in the lineup.

 

[Nordique]

D Mac doesn't have more "heart" than other guys on the team. He is a marginal NHL player at best, he has to put 10 times the effort in to make basic hockey plays. He has terrible hands and frequently takes dumb penalties.

Just because the announcers and portzline go crazy everytime he blocks a shot doesn't make him "grittier" or more hardworking than a player with actual skill, like anisimov, atkonson, or johansen. I'd rather a team full of players with the skill, upside, and scoring ability of johansen than a team full of stone-handed shot blockers.

Hmm, I have to respectfully disagree. Dmac is a value and the heart and soul of that 4th lne....not to mention a hell of a penalt killer.