GDT: Game 17: Red Wings at kings 8:00 pm et 11/16/24

Winger98

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As long as they are winning shifts, they aren't getting scored on a lot. That's a big positive for a couple kids.

I was looking for as good a way of saying this. They're rookies. I bagged on Berggren a bit earlier, but that third line has looked better and better. If anything, they might be earning some time with Kane and trying to be our legit 2nd line but then you're kinda shafting Tarasenko.
They definitely were. But it helps that just about everyone made the playoffs back then.

They also had a young Steve Yzerman, Adam Oates (I'm still mad about that trade), Probert, Kocur, Gerard Gallant.

The rebuilding Wings had the best player in the league not named Gretzky or Lemieux, and two of the best fighters in the league so they didn't have to take crap from anybody.

And the 80s in general were just a fun time for hockey, the way it was played. Goalies were lousy and everyone seemed to play fast and loose.
 
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Snuggs

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I don't recall ever saying the Wings would dominate the league and be undefeated through the first 15 games of the season, so it's literally just you making things up to take out your frustration on someone.


Kind of an interesting take tbh. Larkin is on my short list for most disappointing player so far. I'd highlight Edvinsson as arguably the biggest exception to the "dud play" grade the overall team gets.
Dude... No one said you were saying that either but stop acting like you didn't hawk my posts or others and engage with me over the direction of the team/yzerman/etc. You're arguing with someone else in another thread about the same things, red wings rebuild and team expectations. Am I taking out frustration on you specifically, sure, but it's not like I personally hate you; I've just interacted before (many times) and know your view. We both actually want this team to win.

If you want to talk hockey/red wings with me again, Larkins the problem as the 2nd best player on the team? Idk...

Why isn't everyone else the problem like Compher/Copp/Berggren/*Kasper/Tarasenko/Kane. Larkins not playing great, but he's got everyone's best players stacked against him. Larkin/Raymond/Edvinsson/Seider/Talbot seems to be all this team has right now. (imo)

They definitely were. But it helps that just about everyone made the playoffs back then.

They also had a young Steve Yzerman, Adam Oates (I'm still mad about that trade), Probert, Kocur, Gerard Gallant.

The rebuilding Wings had the best player in the league not named Gretzky or Lemieux, and two of the best fighters in the league so they didn't have to take crap from anybody.

Red Wings actually drafted Probert/Kocur/Grimson all in the same draft :cf:, though I don't think Grimson ever played for them.
 
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