GDT: Game #16: Carolina vs Utah HC - 7:00pm MST - Utah16, UtahHC+

Jakey53

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This is year 5 for BA, just saying....tick....tick....tick
What did you expect this year? You can bitch all you want but at the end of the day it's all about winning and making the playoffs. In my opinion, if the team stays in the wild card race AT is safe as coach. If not Smith might get itchy fingers.
 

cobra427

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What did you expect this year? You can bitch all you want but at the end of the day it's all about winning and making the playoffs. In my opinion, if the team stays in the wild card race AT is safe as coach. If not Smith might get itchy fingers.
By year 5 of a rebuild? I expected a solid playoff team, that is reasonable, we sure aren't there yet. The worst teams in the NHL are 5-7 points out of a wild card spot, so all teams are close to being in:)

I am not impressed with the rebuild or the coaching so far. I am not saying they should be fired, I give them both a mixed review at this time, both just ok under the circumstances. I'm pulling for Bear, BA and the team, I hope they are GM and coach of the year and we make the playoffs, that would be great.
 

Schemp

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By year 5 of a rebuild? I expected a solid playoff team, that is reasonable, we sure aren't there yet. The worst teams in the NHL are 5-7 points out of a wild card spot, so all teams are close to being in:)

I am not impressed with the rebuild or the coaching so far. I am not saying they should be fired, I give them both a mixed review at this time, both just ok under the circumstances. I'm pulling for Bear, BA and the team, I hope they are GM and coach of the year and we make the playoffs, that would be great.
So you're ignoring the fact that the Coyotes traded their 1st in 2020, forfeited a 2nd that year, forfeited a 1st in '21? IMO, the proper rebuild didn't really start until '22 and GMBA made do with what he had prior. Those 2 1sts & a 2nd lost is why it only appears to be the prospects not developing! We missed out on 2 top prospects because of "not to be named"!

So the proper rebuild is really only in year 3 and I consider Guenther to have been in a hockey trade because it cost us 2 NHLers that are still playing.
 

LittlePipes

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So you're ignoring the fact that the Coyotes traded their 1st in 2020, forfeited a 2nd that year, forfeited a 1st in '21? IMO, the proper rebuild didn't really start until '22 and GMBA made do with what he had prior. Those 2 1sts & a 2nd lost is why it only appears to be the prospects not developing! We missed out on 2 top prospects because of "not to be named"!

So the proper rebuild is really only in year 3 and I consider Guenther to have been in a hockey trade because it cost us 2 NHLers that are still playing.
ooo, that’s a stretch I think.
 

Schemp

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ooo, that’s a stretch I think.
A stretch? Not really! Losing 1sts as draft capital for nothing is a set back in a rebuild. Don't see how you can consider it GMBA's fault. He didn't receive an AZ 1st from the resulting prior season until '22. Those prior 2 years should never be considered as part of the "rebuild" but as an abomination of the prior GM's careless actions!
 

Jakey53

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By year 5 of a rebuild? I expected a solid playoff team, that is reasonable, we sure aren't there yet. The worst teams in the NHL are 5-7 points out of a wild card spot, so all teams are close to being in:)

I am not impressed with the rebuild or the coaching so far. I am not saying they should be fired, I give them both a mixed review at this time, both just ok under the circumstances. I'm pulling for Bear, BA and the team, I hope they are GM and coach of the year and we make the playoffs, that would be great.
Detroit, Ottawa, Buffalo and probably Columbus all started their rebuild ahead of Utah and we are right there with them at the moment. The Habs and Utah started the same time and we are ahead of them. Not saying we should be doing cartwheels, but maybe we are where we should be. Let's wait and see how the year unfolds.
 

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