GDT: Game 15: Vegas Golden Knights(9-3-1, 1-3-1 Away) @ Seattle Kraken(5-8-1, 2-3-1 Home) - 7:00 p.m. PT / 10:00 p.m. ET

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Mostly wanted to test if this forum software would let me embed a BlueSky link. It doesn’t. Boo. I’ll probably stop using the Twitter embeds in future GDTs regardless, now that I’ve spotted that the Kraken are mirroring all Twitter posts over on BlueSky. They’ll just be screenshots like the above. f*** Twitter.
 
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IMO Wright has been invisible since the first handful of games, and I don't think it's a complete coincidence that Eberle's hot start ended about the same time.
I was wondering about putting Wright on wing for awhile, preferably Beniers line, maybe take the pressure off for a time. I spent a fair amount of time comparing Wright with Beniers last night.

Often Wright seems just a little behind the play, just enough to not have a significant influence on what happens. He does a lot of head swivelling trying to determine his defensive position. When he finishes his checks, which is not always, he does so without a great deal of force. He will stand in front of the net but his linemates seldom get the puck to him. He can be a tad less than diligent getting back on defense.Then he will do something dazzling and you realize this guy has a ton of latent skill.

Meanwhile Beniers is all engagement all the time. He rushes people and causes bad plays. He hustles back on defense, not infrequently helping his teammates out of tight situations. Every shift he is trying to make an impact. His passing skills can be breathtaking but they often go unrewarded. Along with Goude and to a certain extent Tanev lately, he is the most proactive player on the team. You think, this guys got smarts as well as skill. He makes things happen in a manner that makes Wright look passive and uncertain in comparison.

Both players deserve better linemates. Why not give them one another and see what happens.

Conclusion: Wright has a ways to go before he can help us and it is a likelihood but not a certainty that he will get there.
 
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Undoubtedly. I still remember when fans of other teams were telling us that McCann is not worth his contract.
I remember the stupid,dumb organizations of the past would try to fit McCann in as the 3rd line Centre...in fairness to the Canucks they turned him Pro at 19 and maybe should have let go back to Junior though he did have a decent Rookie season and a pretty good/great shortened season in Pitt before he was dealt to TO and the Kraken claimed him from there...32 pts in 43 games is nothing to sneeze at right?Over a 82 game schedule he would gotten 60-65 pts playing 3rd fiddle with the Pens to Crosby and Malkin...as for the people who said he wasn't worth his contract that was a snow job...
 

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IMO Wright has been invisible since the first handful of games, and I don't think it's a complete coincidence that Eberle's hot start ended about the same time.
Wright did look good with Eberle but McCann kind of got lost in that trio...not sure what the solution is maybe Sprong will be put on his RWing and that will get Wright going again I hope so for his sake he's a good young Centre or at least has the potential to be a good Centre
 

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Wright did look good with Eberle but McCann kind of got lost in that trio...not sure what the solution is maybe Sprong will be put on his RWing and that will get Wright going again I hope so for his sake he's a good young Centre or at least has the potential to be a good Centre
Wright and Sprong would be absolutely cataclysmic together defensively. Absolutely horrible idea.
 

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I was wondering about putting Wright on wing for awhile, maybe take the pressure off. I spent a fair amount of time comparing Wright with Beniers last night.

Often Wright seems just a little behind the play, just enough to not have a significant influence on what happens. He does a lot of head swivelling trying to determine his defensive position. When he finishes his checks, which is not always, he does so without a great deal of force. He will stand in front of the net but his linemates seldom get the puck to him. He can be a tad less than diligent getting back on defense.Then he will do something dazzling and you realize this guy has a ton of latent skill.

Meanwhile Beniers is all engagement all the time. He rushes people and causes bad plays. He hustles back on defense, not infrequently helping his teammates out of tight situations. Every shift he is trying to make an impact. His passing skills can be breathtaking but they often go unrewarded. Along with Goude and to a certain extent Tanev lately, he is the most proactive player on the team. You think, this guys got smarts as well as skill. He makes things happen in a manner that makes Wright look passive and uncertain in comparison.

Both players deserve better linemates.

Conclusion: Wright has a ways to go before he can help us and it is a likelihood but not a certainty that he will get there.

Him being behind the play is something I noticed as well in previous games, particularly the Montreal game where the effort was there, but he was getting where he should be a step later than he should. It’s not unusual or bad for a person with his experience. It should eventually come naturally, but now it looks like he’s got too much to think about.
 
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Got to take my daughter to the game and she is usually a good luck charm for the kraken. We looked better at bringing the pucks into the zone and actually passing better from the last time I saw them play so that was pleasant. Vegas fans are lame as usual so good to pull out the win. And thank you kraken for having Joey start.
 

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You don't think Sprong and Wright can play Defensively? Watch a little more carefully next time out and just concentrate on the Defensive aspects of their game
Brother, what are you even TALKING about. Sprong's defensive deficiencies are widely known across the league. It's why he goes for "future considerations" despite having an extremely desirable skill (a heavy dangerous shot)...it's literally the ONLY THING he's bringing to the table. He's a deeply deeply flawed player.

Are you seriously going to tell me Francis pulled some coup here and got Sebastian Aho 2.0 in return for "future considerations"? C'mon man...
 

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I mean, seriously...from the trade thread on the main board:

Then only watch Sprong when he’s in possession of the puck and skating fast. Don’t watch the other 98% of his time on ice. Then you’ll enjoy him on your club.

In a couple of his games, he's missed his check which led to a goal and I think he also had a cheap giveaway that led to another goal/scoring chance.

I've seen worse players. But what I've seen out of him isn't what you want on your 4th line.
He is good at taking the puck to the net. He is good at getting the puck on net. That's pretty much it.

He doesn't make plays. He doesn't cycle well. His defensive game is meh. He doesn't handle the puck well enough to give your team extra puck possession.

Can we stop gushing over this guy at some point? He's basically an older Tolvanen if you moved the skill slider removing all defense and putting it into offense.
 

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Brother, what are you even TALKING about. Sprong's defensive deficiencies are widely known across the league. It's why he goes for "future considerations" despite having an extremely desirable skill (a heavy dangerous shot)...it's literally the ONLY THING he's bringing to the table. He's a deeply deeply flawed player.

Are you seriously going to tell me Francis pulled some coup here and got Sebastian Aho 2.0 in return for "future considerations"? C'mon man...
Sprong used to be more 1 Dimensional before but has improved cause teams,coaches throughout the League demand it...Daniel is a PP Specialist and dam good at scoring from the LSide of the Goalie while taking a regular shift on the RWing making him versatile too
 
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RayMartyniukTotems

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I mean, seriously...from the trade thread on the main board:







Can we stop gushing over this guy at some point? He's basically an older Tolvanen if you moved the skill slider removing all defense and putting it into offense.
Except that since moving Gourde off the Tolvanen line Eeli has not found the score sheet much and after signing a decent lucrative deal that doesn't look good...he's 1 of many Kraken Forwards that need to find a way to Produce or else see diminishing playing,game times
 

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Sprong used to be more 1 Dimensional before but has improved cause teams,coaches throughout the League demand it...Daniel is a PP Specialist and dam good at scoring from the LSide of the Goalie while taking a regular shift on the RWing making him versatile too

My guy, the quotes I linked were from Canucks fans. You know, the team that just traded him for literally nothing after 12 whole games. I left out the messages from DRW fans saying "Yup, that's why we dumped him". Tell me more about how much he's "improved" though? :rolleyes:

Except that since moving Gourde off the Tolvanen line Eeli has not found the score sheet much and after signing a decent lucrative deal that doesn't look good...he's 1 of many Kraken Forwards that need to find a way to Produce or else see diminishing playing,game times

Tolvanen makes $3.475m on his new contract this year. That's peanuts. He had 41 points last year, basically .5 PPG. He's currently at .33 PPG this year, so not wildly far off. Slagging "Extremely Flawed Player B" as a way to pump up "Extremely Flawed Player A" is not the argument you think it is.

And beyond that, this aint Pokemon...we don't need to "catch 'em all"
 
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