GDT: Game 15: Red Wings at pitt 7:30 pm et 11/13/24

[stillwater]

Its hard to believe we are up against a MUST win this early in the season.

Yes, it is. Because, it isn't.

 

[One Horse Town]

Yes, it is. Because, it isn't.

EXPLAIN:

In April you can't get back points lost from Oct/Nov, see last year on 16 April.

 

[izlez]

EXPLAIN:

In April you can't get back points lost from Oct/Nov, see last year on 16 April.

If we lose this game, it is still possible to win the next 80 in a row on the way to one of the greatest season in history and a Stanley Cup.

 

[Realgud]

A game agains the Pens is always a must win, this one more than ever.

More than game 7 in 2009?

 

[lilidk]

I like to see Kasper line against Crosby

 

[Winged Wheel Willy]

At some point the 1st line has to be broken up, if this does not improve. The rest of the lineup hardly generates, let alone produces. To get some ppl going i'd probably try:

Tank - Cap - Ray
Cat - Kasper - JT
Bergy - Copp - Kane

 

[RED WINGS STOMP]

The Pens have been terrible defensively and lead the league in total GA. If the Wings are to snap out of this offensive funk, no better squad to do it against.

 

[One Horse Town]

If we lose this game, it is still possible to win the next 80 in a row on the way to one of the greatest season in history and a Stanley Cup.

Which game would you like back from last Oct/Nov? For me it would be the 3-2 loss to Montreal. Or the 5-4 loss to Ottawa. Guess what would have happened if they got the extra point in either game?

My point is this is a game they need to win and should win.

 

[MabusIncarnate]

The Pens have been terrible defensively and lead the league in total GA. If the Wings are to snap out of this offensive funk, no better squad to do it against.

Malkin came forward and apologized to the fans over their last game and said they'd do better, I have a feeling the Pens are gonna come out flying tonight with something to prove. Hope i'm wrong.

 

[dalem177]

I nominate @jaster.

There once was a poster named @jaster
Whose wit at times couldn't be faster
But with the Wings in a slump
And enough tears for a sump
He juggles lines for the team like a master

 

[RED WINGS STOMP]

Malkin came forward and apologized to the fans over their last game and said they'd do better, I have a feeling the Pens are gonna come out flying tonight with something to prove. Hope i'm wrong.

My concern as well. Last time we played these guys they were coming off a 6-0 drubbing from the Rangers and then came out of LCA with a win the next night. They lost 5-1 to Carolina last week and then walked out of the Caps arena the next night with a win.

They want to spend the entire game in the offensive zone and will over aggressively forecheck to do it. Play sloppy in your own zone, could be a bad night. So look for them to attack the Chia Petry pairing with vigor tonight.

 

[heyfolks]

The Wings keep catching the Pens after a beating.

 

[aar000n]

I am still confused on the state of this team. Are they a playoff team or are we tanking

 

[RedWingzz]

At some point the 1st line has to be broken up, if this does not improve. The rest of the lineup hardly generates, let alone produces. To get some ppl going i'd probably try:

Tank - Cap - Ray
Cat - Kasper - JT
Bergy - Copp - Kane

Tarasenko should have been given a chance on the first line by now with 71 & 23

Raymond seems to want to be Mitch Marner and has no interest in being a goal scorer, and Tarasenko has scored goals in this league. His pace of play is obviously a concern, but I think putting him with 71 & 23 could maybe work.

I like your lines, maybe try Cat & Kane with Kasper though

I am still confused on the state of this team. Are they a playoff team or are we tanking

neither


with the 10th overall pick in the 2025 NHL entry draft, the Detroit Red Wings are proud to select (insert hard working 2-way forward with great character here).

 

[dalem177]

"Tonight in Pittsburg both teams are smarting, and looking to bounce back from embarrassing losses in their last games. It remains to be seen who will bounce higher - a slightly deflated Winged Wheel from Detroit or the stub-winged Penguins on their home ice."

- Plausible Keats

 

[stillwater]

EXPLAIN:

In April you can't get back points lost from Oct/Nov, see last year on 16 April.

Games in November are only "must wins" to you and fans like you who already have one foot over the edge. It's great you pointed out that you can't get points from November in April. Thank you for that tidbit. Wisdom like that just doesn't come around often enough.

Using your logic, every game is a "must win" game, and that's patently absurd.

 

[HisNoodliness]

Which game would you like back from last Oct/Nov? For me it would be the 3-2 loss to Montreal. Or the 5-4 loss to Ottawa. Guess what would have happened if they got the extra point in either game?

My point is this is a game they need to win and should win.

I honestly think that everyone is just making an argument on semantics. It's a little pedantic sure, but the point is that we can lose this game and be fine. Every win/loss matters the same in a larger sense. At the end of the day, you need 90-100 points to make the playoffs and how you got them doesn't matter. One more win in November could be the difference in April.

But during the season every win/loss doesn't have the same impact on your odds of making the playoffs at the time of the game. If you lose the first game of the season, your odds of making the playoffs almost don't change. You're likely to be about to make up a 2 point deficit over 81 games.

If you have 3 games in hand/left, and you're 5 points out of the playoffs, every game for the rest of the season is a must win. At that point a loss takes you to 0% chance of making the playoffs. That's what the term is reserved for.

You can stretch it a bit by claiming it's 'realistically' a must win. That's like if you're 4 points out with 4 games left for you and the leader. A loss probably doesn't result in you immediately being mathematically eliminated, but it makes it really unlikely that you come back even if you win out. With more than ~15 games left, you're stretching it too far.

Today is just "a game we should win."

 

[Henkka]

They will beat the weak teams easily and Pens is one of them.

 

[Ezekial]

More than game 7 in 2009?

Technically winning this game today is more important today than us having won that game.

 

[Nut Upstrom]

I have to say that this is the worst scheduling for the Wings I can remember in a while, and it's not helping anything. Imagine if they were playing good hockey consistently and had a few more wins - we'd be screaming here about this stutter-stop schedule killing momentum. As it is...

I've been disappointed in season starts before, but never bored. Now I'm bored. They're not playing well, not playing interesting hockey, not winning, not playing different teams, and not easy to "get into" because of the scheduling.

Bleah.

Maybe I should challenge somebody to a limerick fight to get us back into the game here. Who wants to go?

There once was a goalie named Jarry
With moves like an old school Atari
He was slicker than grease
Floppin round in his crease
But tonight he wont start and Im sorry.

 

[dalem177]

There once was a goalie named Jarry
With moves like an old school Atari
He was slicker than grease
Floppin round in his crease
But tonight he wont start and Im sorry.

This limerick reminds me of Reimer
Who flailed like a long-falling climber
At times was a wall
Let in nothing at all
But often as Holy as a Diver

 

[The Flying Octopus]

If they don’t hang at least 5 up on Ned then what are we even doing ?!??

 

[izlez]

No reports of anyone dealing with the flu today??

 

[theYman]

If they don’t hang at least 5 up on Ned then what are we even doing ?!??

I hear ya. We broke that guy. It tells ya how bad this offense had become if we don't score on him.

 

[dalem177]

Oh good. TNT and we get the Penguins' announcers. Great decision.

OK, I can get plain old TNT. Still miss Ken & Mick.