GDT: GAME 13 | Zub Returns vs the Islanders | Thu Nov 7th 2024, 7PM | TSN5, RDSI

[Blotto71]

No. If we have bad habits so does every other team. You think we scored on Vegas 5 times cuz they made no mistakes?
You think the rangers made no defensive errors? Those are some of the best teams in the league. They leaked chances to us.

in todays nhl the offense will always win out. Defense will give up chances.

Buffalo we had a bad game. Utah we bad game.

Last night we had a bad spell in the first. Islanders had some bad spells as well. They scored. We didn’t.

If our stars score on their chances before the islanders guess what? We’re talking about how we played hard and capitalized on chances.


Other than that? We’re laying good team hockey. Why would we be great defensively? How many teams in this league are actually great defensively?

What did they do wrong against the blues? The blues were not even present lol sens controlled.
Tampa the sens played great! Pro sports Is game where you’re playing another Uber competitive team. We went toe to toe. We made some mistakes they made some
mistakes. That reflects real life hockey.

Kings game?? We dominated. We gave them nearly nothing. Two of the worst goaltender performances we’ve ever seen In a single game from forsberg and Sogaard.

You’re expecting team play perfection which simply doesn’t exist.

You’d be impressed how many high danger chances we are giving up relative to the rest of the league. You want to somehow bring those numbers down even further??? How. Why.

Actually I think you’d be impressed by ALL our team stats.

Our finishing at 5v5 has not been good.

And our goaltending to start the year was not good either.

I just want to clarify that I do not expect perfection, and I was not suggesting that I saw old habits at play in any games other than Montreal, Buffalo, Islanders - and the habit I was referring to was not showing up for winnable games. Very happy with the compete and effort (other than for a costly stretch against Vegas) otherwise.

Apologies if I was unclear, I think we are pretty much on the same page (not entirely! That'd be no fun). My frustration is with the inconsistent efforts for some or all of those games that are winnable. I loved the killer instinct versus the Blues, want more of that.

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

No. If we have bad habits so does every other team. You think we scored on Vegas 5 times cuz they made no mistakes?
You think the rangers made no defensive errors? Those are some of the best teams in the league. They leaked chances to us.

in todays nhl the offense will always win out. Defense will give up chances.

Buffalo we had a bad game. Utah we bad game.

Last night we had a bad spell in the first. Islanders had some bad spells as well. They scored. We didn’t.

If our stars score on their chances before the islanders guess what? We’re talking about how we played hard and capitalized on chances.


Other than that? We’re laying good team hockey. Why would we be great defensively? How many teams in this league are actually great defensively?

What did they do wrong against the blues? The blues were not even present lol sens controlled.
Tampa the sens played great! Pro sports Is game where you’re playing another Uber competitive team. We went toe to toe. We made some mistakes they made some
mistakes. That reflects real life hockey.

Kings game?? We dominated. We gave them nearly nothing. Two of the worst goaltender performances we’ve ever seen In a single game from forsberg and Sogaard.

You’re expecting team play perfection which simply doesn’t exist.

You’d be impressed how many high danger chances we are giving up relative to the rest of the league. You want to somehow bring those numbers down even further??? How. Why.

Actually I think you’d be impressed by ALL our team stats.

Our finishing at 5v5 has not been good.

And our goaltending to start the year was not good either.

You post stuff like this but go off the cliff with your long bangs flapping about the very next post.

Try to control your emo man.

 

[DylanSensFan]

I am jealous you think stu is better than barkov. Legitimately I want to live in your world

Did you actually read what I wrote? Offensively Stü is definitely better than Barkov. Have a look at their body of work. We can pretty much guarantee Stü will produce more offense by the time he's 29. He's not a better all around player. I never alluded to that in any way shape or form. He could be though, if he commits.

 

[DylanSensFan]

They have you thinking they're more talented than they are because they cheat so much for offense that they post decent numbers.

You have to stop thinking of the players as being as skilled as their point totals or some of the one off plays they make.

If they would be taking care of their own end first, their offense would be much lower and wouldn't give people as much belief of them being so talented.

Getting 60 points on Ottawa is like getting 50 on a defensively responsible team.

Doesn't mean that our 60 point players are more talented than a good teams 50 point players...its that those 50 point players are putting in an effort to reduce goals against by 10-15 goals.


You're using offensive output to determine skill when it should be offensive output +defensive output to determine skill.


Being able to produce offense while being solid defensively takes more talent than producing offense while cheating on defense.



Sounds like the most biased post ever. Put those comparisons on the main board and you would get laughed at.

Take off your rose gold coloured glasses. Come on man. Even sens fans will laugh at your post. Not accurate at all.

There is no such thing as cheating for offense in this league. You'r either offensively talented in the NHL or you aren't. Brady doesn't get 70+ points because he cheats the zone sometimes. I'll agree with you that our team needs to focus on the defensive side of the puck, but we have offensive talent on this roster. Anyone suggesting they are cheating for offense isn't actually being realistic about the NHL.

 

[DylanSensFan]

The first goal was with 5 mins left in the 2nd period, a period where we were the better team up until that point. We didn't give it away early, this is exactly the type of warped perception I'm talking about. The game had it's back and fourth, we were better some of it, they were better some of it, but some are acting like we got run out of the building from puck drop, it's fiction.

It's not about being run out of the building that's the problem. It's the small details that are. We continue to miss those similar to last year. When I see those end of period and beginning of period mistakes and they haven't changed from last season, I consider that bad. The NHL is a game of mistakes. It doesn't matter if we play awesome every night, if we don't win. By the way, we didn't play awesome versus the Islanders. We did play awesome versus the Blues (won). We even played awesome against the Rangers (lost). We played pretty badly against the Islanders. There were a lot of net front break downs against the Islanders and eventually some of those turned into goals. I could accept a loss against the Islanders if it actually felt like we should have won, like it felt when we they played the Rangers.

 

[DylanSensFan]

If you did the little things right and started strong....you would know what page you're on. At least you know you're on the wrong page now. You're benched next game. If you can't clean it up, I'm trading you out west. Lol.

When I miss game day threads, sometimes I start reading from the last page backwards.

 

[jbeck5]

There is no such thing as cheating for offense in this league. You'r either offensively talented in the NHL or you aren't. Brady doesn't get 70+ points because he cheats the zone sometimes. I'll agree with you that our team needs to focus on the defensive side of the puck, but we have offensive talent on this roster. Anyone suggesting they are cheating for offense isn't actually being realistic about the NHL.

You're totally right. Our team is very sound defensively and doesn't think offense.

Spezza not getting ice time with JM because he cheated for offense was a mirage.

This is the NHL where every player is perfect.

 

[DylanSensFan]

You're totally right. Our team is very sound defensively and doesn't think offense.

Spezza not getting ice time with JM because he cheated for offense was a mirage.

This is the NHL where every player is perfect.

Did you actually read what I wrote? I've said in previous posts that we need to bench players if they are cheating on the defensive side of the puck. This ideology doesn't discount the offensive talent on our team.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Did you actually read what I wrote? Offensively Stü is definitely better than Barkov. Have a look at their body of work. We can pretty much guarantee Stü will produce more offense by the time he's 29. He's not a better all around player. I never alluded to that in any way shape or form. He could be though, if he commits.

Ok. Better offense. I think barkov could probably produce more if he abandoned defence.

You post stuff like this but go off the cliff with your long bangs flapping about the very next post.

Try to control your emo man.

Two things can be true.

1. We are playing very strong as a team.

2. Our core isn’t good enough to take us to the next level

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I just want to clarify that I do not expect perfection, and I was not suggesting that I saw old habits at play in any games other than Montreal, Buffalo, Islanders - and the habit I was referring to was not showing up for winnable games. Very happy with the compete and effort (other than for a costly stretch against Vegas) otherwise.

Apologies if I was unclear, I think we are pretty much on the same page (not entirely! That'd be no fun). My frustration is with the inconsistent efforts for some or all of those games that are winnable. I loved the killer instinct versus the Blues, want more of that.

Perfection was hyperbole.

It’s frustrating when we don’t show up. But other teams don’t show up sometimes too.

The blues game I would flush from your memory. The blues were not there. Not sure what was going on and also their goalies could not save a puck. We learn nothing from that blues game.

My question is ok. Lots of teams don’t show up sometimes. Where’s the players dragging us out? We don’t have players that are stars even when they’re not at their best or when the other team is playing well

 

[jbeck5]

Did you actually read what I wrote? I've said in previous posts that we need to bench players if they are cheating on the defensive side of the puck. This ideology doesn't discount the offensive talent on our team.

We have some talent for sure, but nothing to write home about...

I see players skate up ice way harder than down ice all the time. This is also an example of cheating for offense, and it will lead to some GF for sure, but also some GA.