GDT: Game 12/82 Leafs @Blues 6PM CST FDSNMW

Linkens Mastery

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We're down 2 out of 3 of our NHL LHD, our #1C and our 3RW. Our team is cursed this year with injuries. If any of Colt, Kyrou, Buchnevich, or Binnington gets injured long term over the next 3 weeks we should really curb our expectations for this year. We're already climbing an uphill battle.
 

sbet1998

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We’ve been through a coaching change and defensive coaching change. A lot of it lies on the players at this point.
True but even with as much turnover as they have had this still continues

Maybe its upper management needing to change philosophies

We're down 2 out of 3 of our NHL LHD, our #1C and our 3RW. Our team is cursed this year with injuries. If any of Colt, Kyrou, Buchnevich, or Binnington gets injured long term over the next 3 weeks we should really curb our expectations for this year. We're already climbing an uphill battle.
You should already be curbing your expectations after Broberg's injury. He might not be back. Thomas will.
 

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True but even with as much turnover as they have had this still continues

Maybe its upper management needing to change philosophies


You should already be curbing your expectations after Broberg's injury. He might not be back. Thomas will.
And no coaching change is going to heal them. We're better off weathering the storm.
 

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Julien is on deck for a reason.

Coaching changes can do more for a team than you realize.

They aren't making a coaching change. Give me a break. We just gave Bannister the permanent HC tag. Its 12 games into a transitional season where we are .500 despite losing our best player for over 1/3 of those games. Bannister was brought in over other coaches because he is a good player development coach. We still have players to develop. The win-loss record is meaningless, and its not even bad given the situation. Its utterly ridiculous to assume we are anywhere near a coaching change.

If they wanted to hire Julien as HC they would have hired Julien as HC.
 

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They aren't making a coaching change. Give me a break. We just gave Bannister the permanent HC tag. Its 12 games into a transitional season where we are .500 despite losing our best player for over 1/3 of those games. Bannister was brought in over other coaches because he is a good player development coach. We still have players to develop. The win-loss record is meaningless, and its not even bad given the situation. Its utterly ridiculous to assume we are anywhere near a coaching change.

If they wanted to hire Julien as HC they would have hired Julien as HC.
Good points - in theory - but nothing is permanent.

You seem a bit naive when it comes to coaching changes.

How many did you see coming under Armstrong? He's not afraid to move on if he thinks it will benefit the team regardless of the circumstances or salaries involved.

This franchise WANTS to make the POs. That's where they make their money.

You could be right but you shouldnt be shocked if not.
 

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And no coaching change is going to heal them. We're better off weathering the storm.

Agreed. I'm not sold on Bannister at all but I think he's doing the best he can with this group, especially considering the injuries. I was actually pretty impressed with the total team effort in the game last night. Yeah they gave up 40 shots but the shots were pretty even until the third when Toronto went into high gear. That's a pretty stacked forward group they have and to keep their big guns mostly off the scoresheet twice in two weeks is impressive.

Just goes to show that our team can play pretty decent when everyone is doing their job, and also shows that Binner is our most important player. He made a lot of difficult saves last night and was the clear #1 star followed by 55 and 25. Suter and Faulk played a hell of a game as well.
 

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How the hell does Toronto beat anybody; they’re f***ing terrible? Blues had losses to Ottawa, Montreal & Philly sandwiched between their victories over the Leafs - the supposed best team of the four.

Things like that are what will keep the Blues from drafting Misa or Martone. With Thomas and now Broberg on the shelf, that’s just unforgivable to lose to the Blues. No wonder everybody hates the Leafs. What a sad sack of dumbf***ery that franchise is.
 

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How the hell does Toronto beat anybody; they’re f***ing terrible? Blues had losses to Ottawa, Montreal & Philly sandwiched between their victories over the Leafs - the supposed best team of the four.

Things like that are what will keep the Blues from drafting Misa or Martone. With Thomas and now Broberg on the shelf, that’s just unforgivable to lose to the Blues. No wonder everybody hates the Leafs. What a sad sack of dumbf***ery that franchise is.

It's a parity league. Teams may be better or worse on paper but there are very few truly "bad" teams. Even a supposedly bad team like Montreal has some pretty damn good players like Caufield and Suzuki and a solid, yet not spectacular goalie like Montembeault can shut down any team on any given night.

The fact of the matter is that the so-called "better" team is gonna lose to "worse" teams on a regular basis because of the nature of sports. Not sure what fans expect, that the Blues will lose on purpose in November to hopefully move up a few spots on the draft next summer?
 

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Julien is on deck for a reason.
Right. Bannister asked for him specifically. That wasn’t an FO decision, it was a Bannister one. Army knows/respects Julien, but he was not being considered for a HC job, nor did they bring him in to be the HC-in-waiting. If Bannister is getting dumped (which he isn’t, at least not this year) for someone internally, it’ll be Ott not Julien.
 
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It's a parity league. Teams may be better or worse on paper but there are very few truly "bad" teams. Even a supposedly bad team like Montreal has some pretty damn good players like Caufield and Suzuki and a solid, yet not spectacular goalie like Montembeault can shut down any team on any given night.

The fact of the matter is that the so-called "better" team is gonna lose to "worse" teams on a regular basis because of the nature of sports. Not sure what fans expect, that the Blues will lose on purpose in November to hopefully move up a few spots on the draft next summer?
My post was mostly in jest…and to make fun of the Leafs in a “thanks for nothing” manner, considering they’ve hit 100-points/season regularly and laid back-to-back turds against a banged up team who has half of the fan base pulling for more top-of-the-draft talent.

I realize any “bad” team can beat any “good” team on any given night. It’s how the Sharks clowned the Blues thrice last year. It happens. The Blues are going to win their share of games this year even if there are only a handful of teams who are collectively worse off than they are. The Leafs have somehow looked even worse than the Blues which is no small feat. And deserving of ridicule.
 
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Good points - in theory - but nothing is permanent.

You seem a bit naive when it comes to coaching changes.

How many did you see coming under Armstrong? He's not afraid to move on if he thinks it will benefit the team regardless of the circumstances or salaries involved.

This franchise WANTS to make the POs. That's where they make their money.

You could be right but you shouldnt be shocked if not.

I'm naive about coaching changes? Armstrong has hired and fired 3 coaches for the Blues: (Hitchcock, Yeo, and Berube. Payne was hired before he took over completely so it is unclear how much input Armstrong had on his hire. Bannister has not been fired yet (and won't be for a little while at the least). Those 3 had an average tenure of 4 years. None were fired within one year.

Yeo, the shortest tenure had us as the worst team in the league. We were much worse at 7-9-3, under 500. We had no injuries and much higher expectations for the team having just traded for RoR. That was a team with high expectations. Even he got more than 12 games.

This team had lower expectations and s suffereing from a ridiculous rash of injuries on top of that. They hope to make the playoffs, but given the injuries do not expect it. They will not fire the coach they just hired because he is at .500 with the head and shoulders best player injured.
 
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rough start, even with the schenn fight in the first, but they found their legs in the second and toronto never recovered. even with a tougher coach, they're still susceptible to getting pushed around in the game.

kyrou's showing some leadership out there with thomas out and it's nice to see. shame parayko couldn't get the hat trick, but man does it lift my soul to see a blues defenseman clapping in goals from the blue line
 

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I was at Saturday's game with a buddy I don't get to see much anymore, so I wasn't watching nearly as critically as I usually do (and with a couple more beers in me). I didn't pick any specific guys/situations to watch, so I don't have a ton of analysis or input beyond vibes.

That was a pretty damn fun Saturday home game.

I'm guessing it was Schenn who asked McCabe for that fight. Regardless of who asked who, good on McCabe for stepping up there.

That Berube tribute was great. Could barely hear the speech over the crowd, but the barely censored language was a nice touch. You knew the building was going to pop for the Berube tribute and it didn't disappoint.

The shots were awfully lopsided, but I don't think the game was quite as tilted as they suggest. The Leafs were (clearly) the better team in the 1st, we were the better team in the 1st half of the 2nd and then we spent the rest of the game protecting the lead. Given our roster compared to the Leafs, that is a game where I want them to go into protection mode with a 2 goal lead.

It absolutely sucks to lose Broberg and it is really hard to carry momentum game-to-game. Who knows what that does to our full-season outlook. But that was the type of games that makes it worth spending money on tickets even when the team isn't a contender.
 

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I'm naive about coaching changes? Armstrong has hired and fired 3 coaches for the Blues: (Hitchcock, Yeo, and Berube. Payne was hired before he took over completely so it is unclear how much input Armstrong had on his hire. Bannister has not been fired yet (and won't be for a little while at the least). Those 3 had an average tenure of 4 years. None were fired within one year.

Yeo, the shortest tenure had us as the worst team in the league. We were much worse at 7-9-3, under 500. We had no injuries and much higher expectations for the team having just traded for RoR. That was a team with high expectations. Even he got more than 12 games.

This team had lower expectations and s suffereing from a ridiculous rash of injuries on top of that. They hope to make the playoffs, but given the injuries do not expect it. They will not fire the coach they just hired because he is at .500 with the head and shoulders best player injured.
Okay dude, calm down. You're putting words in my mouth. Im saying a coaching change could happen and it would come out of nowhere is so.

I never said it was imminent or presented a timeline. Armstrong is not afraid to make a tough decision if he thinks it will benefit the team. He's made that pretty clear with his actions.

That is all.
 

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