GDT: Game 11: Red Wings vs sabres 7:00 pm et 11/2/24

[MIKELGRW]

Game will be on ESPN+ and FSND, Let's Go Boys!
DeBrincat-Larkin-Kane
Copp-Compher-Raymond
Rasmussen-Kasper-Tarasenko
Motte/Berggren-Veleno-Fischer
Edvinsson-Seider
Chiarot-Petry
Gustafsson-Holl
Johansson
Talbot/Lyon

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[schuelma24]

Sabres playing tonight. If Wings look like ass tomorrow, would hope Lalonde's seat will really start to heat up.

 

[RedWingzz]

Raymond with a couple grinders won't work lol. Raymond is obviously looking to pass the puck more than he is looking to shoot, so not sure how putting him with 2 grinders will work. If the plan is to have him jumpstart the 2nd line, he needs a sniper like Tarasenko

unless this is Lalondes master plan to have him shoot more because his line mates are grinders?

Sabres playing tonight. If Wings look like ass tomorrow, would hope Lalonde's seat will really start to heat up.

Thompson will make our D look laughable again. I'll say 6-3 Sabres.

 

[Ulysses31]

benching berggren very lalonde thing to do. that said needs to start buryin some pucks.

 

[Winger98]

Raymond with a couple grinders won't work lol. Raymond is obviously looking to pass the puck more than he is looking to shoot, so not sure how putting him with 2 grinders will work. If the plan is to have him jumpstart the 2nd line, he needs a sniper like Tarasenko

unless this is Lalondes master plan to have him shoot more because his line mates are grinders?


Thompson will make our D look laughable again. I'll say 6-3 Sabres.

Part of Raymond looking to pass is that he's got to do a lot of grunt work on that first line. The hope is that Copp/Compher will shoulder that load allowing Raymond to be a trigger man - like how it was working with Kane.

I'm not sure why they are screwing with it. The first line has looked good already, and the second line was finally showing some promise...so lets tear it up? Yeah, Kane/Debrincat have connected in the past but whatever.

benching berggren very lalonde thing to do. that said needs to start buryin some pucks.

1 point in ten games. Every line he's on doesn't gel, and if he's not putting up points I don't see what else he brings. Veleno is probably next for a benching.

 

[OneMoreTry]

1 point in ten games. Every line he's on doesn't gel, and if he's not putting up points I don't see what else he brings. Veleno is probably next for a benching.

What? He looked solid all season, especially lately with Kasper & Ras. Plays with effort, battles every shift I see him. I have no idea why people only look at the points..

Plus, when you look at advanced stats, he is Top5 on the team when it comes to puck control, even though he gets unfavorable deployment.. Bottom 5 in OZone Starts.

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The first guy we should sit is actually Kane, because he is a black hole defensively and even with 7 points in 10 games he can't make up for it.. and if they want to try Motte again (which makes sense, since he just played 4 games so far), who they signed for a 4th line/ checking role, then sit Veleno. Or Fischer.

But that's another sign of the ingenuity regarding this franchise, creating a logjam where nobody needed it, through re-signing Veleno and then signing Motte and Watson. Made no sense then, still makes no sense after 10 games.

 

[Oddbob]

benching berggren very lalonde thing to do. that said needs to start buryin some pucks.

1 -Where does it say benched?

2- He isn't exactly doing much out there. Neither is Veleno, but at least he has a little forecheck game to him and is one of our few good faceoff guys. Berggren doesn't create enough chances when out there to make up for not having much else to his game. Still seeing the same guy who will be a good AHL scorer, but not a regular NHL player. WISH it wasn't so, but he hasn't really improved to me, thus far.

 

[Oddbob]

What? He looked solid all season, especially lately with Kasper & Ras. Plays with effort, battles every shift I see him. I have no idea why people only look at the points..

Plus, when you look at advanced stats, he is Top5 on the team when it comes to puck control, even though he gets unfavorable deployment.. Bottom 5 in OZone Starts.

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The first guy we should sit is actually Kane, because he is a black hole defensively and even with 7 points in 10 games he can't make up for it.. and if they want to try Motte again (which makes sense, since he just played 4 games so far), who they signed for a 4th line/ checking role, then sit Veleno. Or Fischer.

But that's another sign of the ingenuity regarding this franchise, creating a logjam where nobody needed it, through re-signing Veleno and then signing Motte and Watson. Made no sense then, still makes no sense after 10 games.

What is Berggren doing to date to beat out Fischer or Veleno? They both have an NHL 4th line gamestyle that pretty much every NHL coach wants on their 4th line. Berggren is either force his way onto top 6 or sit out. Now if we wanted to switch Tank (sit out) to give Berggren a shot higher up the lineup than sure, but he really isn't a good fit on the 4th line and hasn't really earned a higher look.

 

[JohanFranzenstein]

I do not care how, just win.

 

[Ulysses31]

1 -Where does it say benched?

2- He isn't exactly doing much out there. Neither is Veleno, but at least he has a little forecheck game to him and is one of our few good faceoff guys. Berggren doesn't create enough chances when out there to make up for not having much else to his game. Still seeing the same guy who will be a good AHL scorer, but not a regular NHL player. WISH it wasn't so, but he hasn't really improved to me, thus far.

1) not sure if he benched or not, subbing with motte at pratice according to OP so i think there is a chance

2) I agree with you. he had some good looks but ultimately needs to bury some pucks

 

[lilidk]

What is Berggren doing to date to beat out Fischer or Veleno?

More or less good player should be good at any line. Fedorov was very good at defense. Berggren is trying to be a line driver. If he gets 2 grinders with some skills he could bring some scoring to bottom line.
Bottom line if he gets sit down , the way Berggren playing, coach deserve to get fired

 

[schuelma24]

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