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Game 11: Pittsburgh Penguins 2 @ Los Angeles Kings 3 F/OT

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KingsFan7824 said:
Have to put some stock in it. The games count. Maybe if the Kings hadn't been living by the 3v3 point last year too, what's going on this year isn't as similar. They were doing it too often last year with Lucic, and Gaborik for the first half, and Quick.
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I just put more stock into the last 30 games of a season.

That's still plenty of games to dig yourself out of a hole(not a huge one)
Though the Ducks did last year.

The first 25-35 games of last season the Kings were damn near unbeatable.

What happened the last 30-20 games of last season. ? They fell off a cliff, and it got worse in the playoff's.

Also the last half of the season, your roster is, what it is. Nothing is going to change it, save a call-up/injuries.

First half of the season, you can still make trades, or survive injuries.
 
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I agree about Gravel needing to stay in the lineup.

he can play both PK / PP and RD / LD

solid wheels and good size. Hope he impresses during Gilbert's suspension and

we can scratch greene.
 
losingsand said:
I agree about Gravel needing to stay in the lineup.

he can play both PK / PP and RD / LD

solid wheels and good size. Hope he impresses during Gilbert's suspension and

we can scratch greene.
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Who's bringing the offense in that case? :naughty:
 
Could Malkin be any lazier on that shift? He didn't even try to stop Dowd and had the best view in the house as the goal went in.:laugh:
 
Aside from a few teams, the West is looking pretty bad right now. There's only 3 teams in the entire Western Conference that have a positive goal differential.

Even with the Kings' recent struggles, they're still tied for a wild card.
 
I wonder how long will it take a forward to overtake Martinez as our point leader :laugh:
 
damacles1156 said:
I just put more stock into the last 30 games of a season.
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Sure, games in November are less intense than games in March.

That's still plenty of games to dig yourself out of a hole(not a huge one)
Though the Ducks did last year.
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They're not even really in a hole. Just 2 points behind SJ for 2nd in the Pacific. Early or not though, who doesn't want to see some of this Corsi stuff translate to regulation?

The first 25-35 games of last season the Kings were damn near unbeatable.

What happened the last 30-20 games of last season. ? They fell off a cliff, and it got worse in the playoff's.
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Could also chalk that up in part to no Gaborik. Just like now.

Also the last half of the season, your roster is, what it is. Nothing is going to change it, save a call-up/injuries.

First half of the season, you can still make trades, or survive injuries.
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There aren't that many trades early in the season anymore with the cap. I'd say the first half your roster basically is what it is, and you have to survive whatever comes your way.

You just don't want to live by the 3v3 OT point. Get them if you have to though. Rather get them than not. No Gaborik, no Quick, down a defenseman again, like Sutter says it's just about staying in it. They're doing that, just in an ugly and uneven way.

CowMix said:
I wonder how long will it take a forward to overtake Martinez as our point leader :laugh:
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Doughty has 0 5v5 assists. Unless you count the pass he made to Letang on Crosby's 2nd goal.
 
Bi-polar hockey. Anybody who thinks they can predict wins and losses for this team will end up in a straight jacket. Kings get shut out 3 straight then Matt Greene, Trevor Lewis and Dowd score goals against one of the best teams in the league (on back to back with their "backup" goalie). Dwight King with another empty score sheet, it's time to send the guy to Ontario. Dowd and Gravel prove this team needs to be a 50/50 mix of vets and youth.
 
My problem with King is even though he's not on the score sheet he is losing foot races to the park and is a step behind everything. Trying to get to the park to clear it trying to get in on the puck or even trying to track down players he is always a split second behind.

We have way too many redundant players on this roster, but I think losing king to free agency next year in Vegas taking possibly a Louis that over the summer it will self correct as long as DL doesn't tamper with it or the philosophy to get more skilled
 
Forbort and Gravel look really good. Someone mentioned Gravel looks better in the NHL than the AHL; guys who play simple games thrive on the lack of chaos at this level, heh. His teammates offer better puck support which in turn makes those guys look better. I mentioned last year that the few games Forbort played he offered a couple of breakout passes that were amongst the best I had ever seen; he's kept that up for the most part, making very poised passes despite some of the best in the world barreling down on him. On D Gravel had one shift in particular where Crosby couldn't even escape him. Promising.
 
You have one person and one person only to thank for the win. Marc Andre "the Flake" Fleury.

Good luck the rest of the season.
 
The Butcher said:
Yeah, my mom could have scored that goal. :shakehead

Give credit where it is due.
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I was referring to the first two goals.

But lets face it, you guys were struggling to score goals. Fleury helped out tremendously in giving your team confidence. The second goal was nearly as bad. Without those two it probably never gets to OT all things being equal.

Dowd looked like Voracek the other night. Not taking away from his goal at all. He cashed in on his opportunity.

I actually like the Kings and was impressed by their possession time. Definitely played better than I had be hearing lately. Like I said before, good luck the rest of the season. Unless of course we meet in the finals then all bets are off. :D
 
Cherpak said:
I was referring to the first two goals.

But lets face it, you guys were struggling to score goals. Fleury helped out tremendously in giving your team confidence. The second goal was nearly as bad. Without those two it probably never gets to OT all things being equal.

Dowd looked like Voracek the other night. Not taking away from his goal at all. He cashed in on his opportunity.

I actually like the Kings and was impressed by their possession time. Definitely played better than I had be hearing lately. Like I said before, good luck the rest of the season. Unless of course we meet in the finals then all bets are off. :D
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Never mind me and my chapped ass.:rant:
 
Cherpak said:
I was referring to the first two goals.

But lets face it, you guys were struggling to score goals. Fleury helped out tremendously in giving your team confidence. The second goal was nearly as bad. Without those two it probably never gets to OT all things being equal.

Dowd looked like Voracek the other night. Not taking away from his goal at all. He cashed in on his opportunity.

I actually like the Kings and was impressed by their possession time. Definitely played better than I had be hearing lately. Like I said before, good luck the rest of the season. Unless of course we meet in the finals then all bets are off. :D
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I appreciate the sentiment but you have to understand it sounds like a backhanded compliment.

I mean, you guys were fortunate the Kings let you guys tie by having our backup backup backup backup in who gave up a big rebound, and Doughty who passed a puck to Letang, right? I mean, that gave you guys confidence in a game in which you only had 11 shots halfway through. All things being equal, that should have been a Kings-dominated shutout. Not taking anything away from the Pens at all, of course :sarcasm:
 
johnjm22 said:
Aside from a few teams, the West is looking pretty bad right now. There's only 3 teams in the entire Western Conference that have a positive goal differential.

Even with the Kings' recent struggles, they're still tied for a wild card.
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I'll take it.

Goodness we all knew this would be a tough season but last I checked we have had:

1st line winger out
2nd line winger out
3rd line winger out
Top pairing defensemen
Bottom pairing defensemen
and both goalies

All 11 games into the season and everything from missing a few days to months or even the whole season. Wild card sounds good to me. All this complaining about who is on our 4th line or our 7th d-man is meaningless without a goalie. Got to have that if we want to keep going.
 
Dwight King can't score enough to be used in a top 6 role. He doesn't bring enough grit, energy, or defensive ability to be used in a bottom 6 role. I've saying this for years. For a guy his size, it's amazing how he's able to disappear so often.

He does occasionally show soft hands around the net, which has allowed him to score some timely goals over the years.
 
Tadite said:
I'll take it.

Goodness we all knew this would be a tough season but last I checked we have had:

1st line winger out
2nd line winger out
3rd line winger out
Top pairing defensemen
Bottom pairing defensemen
and both goalies

All 11 games into the season and everything from missing a few days to months or even the whole season. Wild card sounds good to me. All this complaining about who is on our 4th line or our 7th d-man is meaningless without a goalie. Got to have that if we want to keep going.
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We are also doing all this with Doughty playing mediocre at best and none of our top guns scoring. I'm actually starting to feel confident we're going to gain momentum as the season goes along and Dowd, Forbort, Gravel, and even Gilbert and Purcell get acclimated
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
I appreciate the sentiment but you have to understand it sounds like a backhanded compliment.

I mean, you guys were fortunate the Kings let you guys tie by having our backup backup backup backup in who gave up a big rebound, and Doughty who passed a puck to Letang, right? I mean, that gave you guys confidence in a game in which you only had 11 shots halfway through. All things being equal, that should have been a Kings-dominated shutout. Not taking anything away from the Pens at all, of course :sarcasm:
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Well it wasn't. All things being equal the Pens were the team up 1-0 and you guys were struggling to score goals. So by your logic the Pens should have shut out the Kings then. But stuff happens to swing momentum. My point was that Fleury basically scoring on himself, in fact I believe a Pens fan said something to that effect early on here before the game, helped give the Kings the confidence they needed.

As a Penguins fan it didn't surprise me that the Kings streak ended with Fleury in net.
 
Doughty and Muzzin have 0 5v5 assists in 11 games so far, and Muzzin doesn't have an ES point.

Kopitar is shooting 5% below his career average. Toffil, 6% lower. Carter, 5%. King, with 0 goals of course, has an 11% career sh%, which is at 0% right now. Purcell, hasn't played much, but he's at 9% for his career.

Such an odd year so far. They're in the mix, despite all the roster issues. They couldn't hold a 3-0 lead at home against Vancouver, and had to go to OT to beat both Nashville and Pittsburgh on the 2nd of back to back road games for them.

I don't know. They'll either break out at some point, or all the effort they've had to expend just to get to OT to win these games, or not being able to shut things down in regulation, is going to catch up to them. The West hasn't been all that great which helps.
 
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