Post-Game Talk: GAME 1 - Swampkittens 6 BRUINS 4

Number8

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I'm not good at reading all the heat map stuff.

But, graphically, this looks like someone drank too much gatorade, ate too many sour gummy candy, and puked all over their tv. And had a bleeding ulcer to boot.

And, that, is a pretty fair representation of whatever that was I watched last night.

I might be getting the hang of this.
 

KnightofBoston

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Consistently, the panthers just outwork other teams

This was the story in 2019 too, different coach, different roster, same overall product of lack of will.

And in hindsight, that 2023 team was always going to need a favorable path to win a cup. The dog just wasn’t in them.

It’ll take awhile to find that again.
 

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How do you come out so flat against a team that booted you from the playoffs the last 2 years? You were a step behind the whole night and a couple of late goals made the score respectable. You do not know how to play tough as you let your emotions get to you and take dumb retaliatory penalties.

Tkachuk and Bennet know how to get under your skin and you have to get them when the time is right. They want you to chase them around and take dumb penalties. Sure we killed off all penalties but it is not good to play 4 against 5 for a good majority of the time.

It looks like you want to get them so bad that you are completely out of sync. Do not let them goad you into penalties as it really upsets your flow of the game.

Hopefully Monday will be a totally different game.
 

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A potentially deadly hurricane about to hammer into the west coast of Florida, the Bruins opened their season Tuesday night in Sunrise, just inland from the Fort Lauderdale shore, and suffered a storming at the hands of the defending Stanley Cup champion Panthers.

Final score: Panthers 6, Bruins 4.

As bad as that score may look, it was all of that, and could have been considerably worse given Florida’s lopsided advantage in possession and puck control. The Panthers moved out early to a 2-0 lead, piled up 14 shots on net before the Bruins could land their second, and looked every bit the stout, burly group that ushered the Bruins out of the playoffs each of the last two seasons. With the Florida lead up to 6-2 late in the third, goals by Trent Frederic and David Pastrnak finally fed some oxygen into the Boston offense, but it ended there.

Newcomers Elias Lindholm and Nikita Zadorov, the big free agent signings in the offseason, were of marginal impact, though Zadorov did land a team-high six hits.

The heavy, uptempo redesign, made in large part to go head to head with Florida, did not generate the desired flash and dash.

The Bruins too often were slow, late arriving to pucks, and Joonas Korpisalo didn’t provide the kind of No. 1 netminding the Bruins became accustomed to the last three seasons with partners Linus Ullmark and Jeremy Swayman.

▪ Just an ugly first period for the Bruins. They showed little or no sign of a hoped-for improved forecheck, which was a point of emphasis in July when general manager Don Sweeney brought in some big forwards to lead the charge. No charge in the first. Barely a whimper.

▪ The Bruins were down by a pair, 2-0, at 7:31 and also dramatically underwater on shots, 11-1. One of the few good moments was the Pavel Zacha shorthander, with help from Elias Lindholm, that briefly cut the Panthers’ lead to 2-1. It’s the closest the Bruins would be to pulling even for the rest of the night.

▪ Korpisalo, picked up in the swap that sent Ullmark to Ottawa, gave up the third Florida goal only 3:01 after Zacha’s strike, Sam Reinhart responding with a shorty for the Panthers. It was a clever shot from the left circle — Reinhart routinely makes clever bids — but Korpisalo could have and should have made the stop. File under: giant buzzkill.

▪ In Jim Montgomery’s first two seasons behind the bench, the Bruins became accustomed to red-hot starts, helping him to compile a dazzling 112-32-20 (.744) regular-season mark.

In 2022-23, the Bruins opened 10-1-0, improved to 20-3-0, and stood 32-5-4 at the midway point.

Last season, the Bruins again opened hot, losing only once in regulation (14-1-3) prior to the Thanksgiving break. By the 20-minute mark in Sunrise, they already had matched that one regulation defeat.

▪ Tough night for sophomore Mason Lohrei, who rode most of the time with veteran Brandon Carlo on the Bruins’ No. 3 defense pairing. When the Panthers boosted the lead to 5-1 midway through the second, Lohrei had an ugly minus-3 next to his name. Until he builds more solid defense into his game, Lohrei might be spotted against clubs not as heavy on the puck as the Panthers.

▪ Montgomery easily could have justified yanking Korpisalo with the deficit at 4-1. But Swayman, the backup, only signed his contract on Sunday and practiced with the full squad for the first time on Monday. Had Korpisalo been injured — beyond a bruised ego — Montgomery would have had no choice but to turn to Swayman.

During his protracted contract talks, which culminated in a $66 million/eight-year deal, Swayman stayed in shape with extensive workouts at Boston University. “Honorary Terrier,” a smiling Swayman, the ex-Maine Black Bear, kidded on Sunday. He’ll undoubtedly make his first start of the season on Thursday when the Canadiens come to Causeway Street.

Swayman, like Ullmark, told Sweeney that he wants to play in 55 games or more — the workload of a true No. 1. If Korpisalo isn’t sharper than he was in Sunrise, Swayman’s workload could approach 65.
Not saying he played well but I disagree singling out Lohrei. The first goal was Carlo in the slot, the 2nd was Peake in the slot, the 3rd was McAvoy getting beat through his triangle, the 4th was Peake again in the slot, the 5th was a 3-1 with Lohrei back, and the 6th he could have closed the gap quicker but deflected a long wrist shot past Korp. Sure he could have done many things better, but all the hate singling him out because he ended up a minus is ridiculous.
 
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I’m curious if the bruins starting line up played together at all in the preseason? Looks like guys are unfamiliar with each other on top of being out of shape.
If you're playing with someone unfamiliar, it shouldn't hinder you're ability to box out. Our D can't play D and that's a problem. Carlo and Lorei are the softest D men in the league and should never be together on the ice, EVER! Mc Avoy will never earn that contract. The only players with any hockey IQ are Lindholm, Marchand, and Lorei. The rest of the team make low chance passes and plays continuously. Pasta should not touch the puck on the PP except to shoot, his no look back passes are setting the opposition up for a short handed chance almost every PP!
 
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Bruins D unable to handle a strong forechecking team. No transition game to get the puck out of the zone
Yeah I thought that *we* were supposed to be that strong forechecking team this year. That’s supposed to be the blueprint this year, according to Donny. “Arrive on time” and all. Of course it was one game and they weren’t ready to go so there’s still time.

Maybe we could get AI to produce a game plan for Monty: tell it “play like Florida”. Would come back with “f*** plays. Pound their f***ing D”.
 
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How do you come out so flat against a team that booted you from the playoffs the last 2 years? You were a step behind the whole night and a couple of late goals made the score respectable. You do not know how to play tough as you let your emotions get to you and take dumb retaliatory penalties.

Tkachuk and Bennet know how to get under your skin and you have to get them when the time is right. They want you to chase them around and take dumb penalties. Sure we killed off all penalties but it is not good to play 4 against 5 for a good majority of the time.

It looks like you want to get them so bad that you are completely out of sync. Do not let them goad you into penalties as it really upsets your flow of the game.

Hopefully Monday will be a totally different game.
Boston is a complete joke to Florida at this point. Sam Bennett who never has had to answer for the Marchand cheap shot still flat out ran their ****ing goalie over...and nothing. All summer they pimped the size of the Bruins and Florida made them a laughing stock again.
 

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Not saying he played well but I disagree singling out Lohrei. The first goal was Carlo in the slot, the 2nd was Peake in the slot, the 3rd was McAvoy getting beat through his triangle, the 4th was Peake again in the slot, the 5th was a 3-1 with Lohrei back, and the 6th he could have closed the gap quicker but deflected a long wrist shot past Korp. Sure he could have done many things better, but all the hate singling him out because he ended up a minus is ridiculous.
It's ridiculous to think he should be playing in the NHL right now never mind pairing him with the other giant traffic cone.

Also Carlo needs to stay on the third pair going forward and give Peeke extra ice time, Carlo is just to easy to play against
 

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Boston is a complete joke to Florida at this point. Sam Bennett who never has had to answer for the Marchand cheap shot still flat out ran their ****ing goalie over...and nothing. All summer they pimped the size of the Bruins and Florida made them a laughing stock again.
Bennett will never be afraid of this Bruins team. If anything he might get bored of being so enabled to take liberties.
 

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SUNRISE, Fla. — The Panthers ran their Stanley Cup banner to the Amerant Bank Arena rafters Tuesday night and then promptly ran the Bruins right out of the rink.

Boston looked a day late and a dollar short for long stretches of its 6-4 opening-night loss to Florida in a game that wasn’t close to being that close.

The Bruins scored a pair of late goals to cloud the competitiveness of this one.
Unable to consistently generate chances early, the Bruins fell behind early and then got lost in a fog of Florida’s ferocious

“Their execution was really good. Our execution was really poor,” said Bruins coach Jim Montgomery. “I can’t pinpoint why we looked slow, but we looked slow the entire game, not just the first 10 minutes, in my opinion.”

Making his first start with the Bruins, Joonas Korpisalo (29 saves) was peppered with shots early and then physically pummeled later when Sam Bennett ran him over after Florida’s final goal.

  • “Korpisalo was not a problem tonight. It was the people in front of him. You can’t give up four backdoor tap-ins and expect your goalie to make save after save,” said Montgomery. “He made a lot of saves on breakaways. He was good tonight. The players in front of him, the rest of the team, and the coaching staff. We weren’t good enough.”
Korpisalo was under siege almost immediately and he held up well for the first five minutes, making a big right pad save on Carter Verhaeghe after a sloppy giveaway at center ice while the Bruins were changing. He denied Verhaeghe on the doorstep moments later.

The Bruins, meanwhile, didn’t land a shot on Sergei Bobrovsky until five minutes had elapsed.

The first fisticuffs of the season came when Mark Kastelic dropped ‘em with ex-Bruin A.J. Greer, who had taken exception to Kastelic’s hit on another ex-Bruin, Jesper Boqvist.

Greer rapped his stick on Kastelic’s legs and the two went at it, exchanging a couple of nice blows. Greer, mysteriously, escaped an instigator minor.

Trent Frederic tried to spark his mates by challenging Matthew Tkachuk, but the Panther wouldn’t oblige — just like last season’s playoffs — and Frederic was hit with an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty.

Tkachuk’s unwillingness to match up surprised Frederic.

“He said yeah, and he didn’t [drop his gloves], so it’s kind of hard when someone says, yeah,” said Frederic. “He actually asked me because I was asking him and then he didn’t, so it’s hard to read that.”

“I mean, the game was 4-1 after first, so not too happy with that,” said Korpisalo. “A couple weird bounces. Four go in in one period. It doesn’t matter how many shots you got there. It’s pretty tough to climb back there.”

The Bruins showed a little life as the second opened but couldn’t cash in on their chances.

The Panthers upped the advantage to 5-1 and this time it wasn’t the usual suspects. The fresh faces got involved.

Following another sloppy center ice exchange, Boqvist bolted down the left side before saucering a cross-slot pass to Jonah Gadjovich, who banged it home.

Shortly after the goal the Panther crowd started a “We want Swayman” chant. They weren’t getting Boston’s $66 million man on this night.

Almost as if he was responding to them, Korpisalo made his best save of the night, denying Aleksander Barkov on a breakaway with a nice flash of the right pad.

Boston got it to 5-2 when Bobrovsky couldn’t cleanly glove Johnny Beecher’s snapper and McAvoy zipped home the rebound.

Things got ugly (and a little dangerous) when Max Jones was slashed by Evan Rodrigues and when Jones went to return the favor, he instead caught linesman Devin Berg. Jones was sent off for unsportsmanlike conduct.

Rodrigues scored to make it 6-2 with Bennett barreling over Korpisalo a split second after the puck went in. The hit set off a mini melee that resulted in a Boston power play.

Frederic and David Pastrnak scored in the last four minutes to pull the Bruins within two goals. That late surge was a silver lining to Frederic.

“I thought a positive there is we kept pushing back and I think we just ran out of time, and we’ll get them in the next week or so,” Frederic said of the upcoming Columbus Day matinee rematch. “I think it’s good. I mean, it’ll be fun at our rink.”
Few thoughts

Florida is a very fun team and a balance of high draft picks (Barkov, Reinhart, Ekblad, Tkachuk) but reclamation players - Forsling, Bennett, Verhague

How can anyone not like Evan Rodrigues

Lundell is a really good player anchoring third line

Getting rid of Cousins was big for me, he was that stain on a clean shirt

I liked the Boqvist brothers add - hopefully they stay in good health

This is exactly what the Bruins needed to start

There is your mountain.

Best way to start is realizing what you need to improve on
 

Dennis Bonvie

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Most disappointing was the vaunted D crew. Size didn't help them as the Panthers ate them alive in front of Korpisalo.

It's not that the Bruins are slow of foot, but slow to react. Panthers jumping on pucks all over the ice while Bruins seemed unable to read the play at all. Panthers had the puck all night.

Have to give Freddy an A for effort. But he doesn't seem to know how to play the role of tough guy. Tried to fight, tried to hit, scored a goal. Don't like him at center, though.

Only time Bruins had a chance was when they had the power play, down 2-1. And they give up a shorty. Hate to see our best defenseman get beat one-on-one, but what a great goal by Reinhart.

Bruins have 12 Americans on the roster. 4 Canadians. Panthers have 3 Americans, 9 Canadians. Just sayin'....
 

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There is your mountain.

Best way to start is realizing what you need to improve on
Well said. I was thinking - and others said it last night - in 2018-19 we got hammered by the Caps in game one 7-0 or something close to that. The sky was falling, crashing actually (LOL!) annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd months later they made the finals. Lots of hockey to go. If last night was a trend and we keep seeing it in say January, then its time to flip out. New season with new guys coming in getting used to each other. They have to be better and they will be. And they know it.

Like you said DKH, Florida is the benchmark. Aim to be better than them and I don't even mean next Monday. Play like you have to beat them to win the Cup in all games and they will be ok.

Glad hockey is back and everyone is back here posting too. Enjoy the new season everyone!

Go Bruins!
 

BB79

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Boston is a complete joke to Florida at this point. Sam Bennett who never has had to answer for the Marchand cheap shot still flat out ran their ****ing goalie over...and nothing. All summer they pimped the size of the Bruins and Florida made them a laughing stock again.
Completely disappointed this morning. If you're going to lose fine just rack up a hundred PIM making them pay a price for it. When Tkachuk wouldn't drop his gloves Frederick should have unloaded on him anyways. Make him defend himself instead of getting made a fool of.

That's all I have to say on this game. Burn the tape, get mad and take it out on Montreal...and then be prepared for Florida again next week.
 
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Thirty Seven

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This team struggles with starting games on time. It was like that all last year. It's your first game of the season vs the team that has eliminated you from playoffs twice in the last 2 years and that's the effort they come out with? sad.

It was 5-2 and Marchand takes a stick to the face and then the Florida player punches someone and the Bruins respond with a little bit of pushing because they don't want to take a penalty.

New faces but seems like the same ol shit.
 

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