Gabriel Landeskog participates in full Avs practice for first time in 995 days

[Avsfan1921]

If Colorado has used his cap space and Landeskog is ready for day 1 of the playoffs but not a moment sooner, it’s exactly the same as Tampa/Vegas.

The question isn’t the validity of the injuries. It’s the timing of health coinciding exactly with the moment it no longer becomes a cap concern.

It’ll be the same if Kane is ready day 1 for the Oilers.

All of these teams are circumventing the cap and the league just looks the other way.

The NHL can’t, nor should they, hold a team to a hard deadline on a player that has missed MULTIPLE YEARS due to needing an experimental surgery to attempt a comeback. Sucks for other teams if he comes back and plays at a high level, but this circumstance is completely understandable to anyone who doesn’t have an agenda. Call it cap circumvention if you want but to take offence in this instance is silly.

This is not a comparable to any other situation the league has faced.

 

[Czechboy]

Great story. Curious how it goes! Any chance we can get klefbom back?

 

[Hennessy]

He's gonna high-hat Benn game one.

 

[Stealth1616]

He's had multiple knee surgeries, but the most serious one is a cartilage transplant in May of 2023.

He literally has somebody else's knee cartilage in his body.

First time ever in NHL history.

What’s the cap hit on the other player ?

 

[Coffee]

Being on LTIR for half a season are rookie numbers.

Colorado are doing it for almost 3 years.

No they haven’t.

 

[Hennessy]

The NHL can’t, nor should they, hold a team to a hard deadline on a player that has missed MULTIPLE YEARS due to needing an experimental surgery to attempt a comeback. Sucks for other teams if he comes back and plays at a high level, but this circumstance is completely understandable to anyone who doesn’t have an agenda. Call it cap circumvention if you want but to take offence in this instance is silly.

This is not a comparable to any other situation the league has faced.

No. It's not.
But if he's in the lineup game 1?
Come on.
That's a bit convenient.

 

[dabeechman]

Classic cap circumvention. Sit a guy out for 3 years, just for him to come back for a playoff run.

Kidding, this is amazing. Super happy for the guy.

 

[oconnor9sean]

This has classic “die a hero or live long enough to become the villain” written all over it.

He’ll be a popular morale boost for their 5 or 6 playoff games, but when his broken body starts counting 7 million against the cap for the next 4 years, the “this contract is killing us” chatter will start halfway through next year.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

If Colorado has used his cap space and Landeskog is ready for day 1 of the playoffs but not a moment sooner, it’s exactly the same as Tampa/Vegas.

The question isn’t the validity of the injuries. It’s the timing of health coinciding exactly with the moment it no longer becomes a cap concern.

It’ll be the same if Kane is ready day 1 for the Oilers.

All of these teams are circumventing the cap and the league just looks the other way.

“The question isn’t the validity of the injuries”

Lol what? Could you make forcing your agenda any more obvious?

The guy was out for nearly three years. It’s a huge risk that he’s going to be even be any good at all IF he gets back into a game period. Its COMPLETELY DIFFERENT than other situations?

It truly blows my mind that you can convince yourself otherwise. And you’re only fooling yourself by tossing the Kane hypothetical in there as to appear unbiased.

 

[avsfan9]

LTIR is a good thing. It’s a good thing the Avalanche have been able to fill his space while he’s been unhealthy. But once he’s healthy that ability to fill his ~$7M should end and you shouldn’t be able to skirt around that come playoff time.

Very simple solution would be any player that finishes the season on LTIR is ineligible for those playoffs. If a team thinks the player will return come playoff time then they can’t fill his LTIR in season and then dress him come playoff time.

In this instance Landeskogs return would need to be pushed back to the start of next season once the Avs can get cap compliant. Or, 10 days ago when the deadline was here the Avalanche could have prepared for his return and made sure they left enough space open to be able to fit him in on the cap.

It’s great Landeskog looks like he’s getting close to returning to action after it looked like his career might be ending.

They’ll still be BSing the system in the exact same way Vegas and Tampa did in the past if he’s ready the instant the playoffs start but not before.

If the Oilers had done it with Klefbom after he missed multiple seasons from injury but only returned once the playoffs began that would be BS too. It’ll be BS if they do it with Kane this year after he’s missed the entire season.

I’m sick of teams gaming the system to add impact players for the start of the playoffs and wish the league would change it.

It has nothing to do with any of the specific players or any of the specific teams.

Well it’s not against the rules, the league, Gm’s and owners seem to have less of a problem with it than the fans do. It is what it is but I think you should be cap compliant when the playoffs come which means dressing to the cap no matter how many you have on your team.

 

[LokiDog]

Nobody freaking out about this??!! Or is that only when Tampa or Vegas does this kind of stuff lol

I think it’s a modicum easier to trust the validity of his injury and the timing of his return when he’s missed 3 years and not the exact number of days remaining in a single season from the time he went on IR… but that could just be me and my stupid common sense talking.

 

[Drake1588]

Love Landeskog, love the comeback bid, hope it goes well for the player.

Hate that they get to use his money to add players and they get to add him for the playoffs too.

A modest proposal: At the beginning of every game in the playoffs, every team has to submit its roster for that game, and it must be under the salary cap. You might be able to use LTIR to add depth, but you can't ice a roster in any playoff game that has a cumulative cap hit over the salary cap. Problem solved.

 

[josra33]

Will they send him to the AHL ? i know he needs it but could be a slap in the face if he gets injured and his last game is not in the NHL

I’m sure he’d rather get injured trying than sitting at home and phoning it in to collect a paycheck.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Should of waited 5 more days to be more dramatic.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

You dirty f***ers cheated and had him on the LTIR for 2 years to do this.

I've back traced it and I'm calling the government

 

[Toothless Legend]

A modest proposal: At the beginning of every game in the playoffs, every team has to submit its roster for that game, and it must be under the salary cap. You might be able to use LTIR to add depth, but you can't ice a roster in any playoff game that has a cumulative cap hit over the salary cap. Problem solved.

Seems reasonable. It would be interesting to see how teams would adapt to such a rule. I think we could see the current arms race on steroids if some teams had the right circumstances.

 

[The Shadow]

Kitchener Rangers for those out there who are confused.

 

[Spawn]

The NHL can’t, nor should they, hold a team to a hard deadline on a player that has missed MULTIPLE YEARS due to needing an experimental surgery to attempt a comeback. Sucks for other teams if he comes back and plays at a high level, but this circumstance is completely understandable to anyone who doesn’t have an agenda. Call it cap circumvention if you want but to take offence in this instance is silly.

This is not a comparable to any other situation the league has faced.

Keep telling yourself it’s different. It’s exactly the same.

And sure they can hold a team to a hard deadline. The NHL is littered with hard deadlines.

 

[Spawn]

I think it’s a modicum easier to trust the validity of his injury and the timing of his return when he’s missed 3 years and not the exact number of days remaining in a single season from the time he went on IR… but that could just be me and my stupid common sense talking.

Incredibly easy to trust that after a missed 3 years he’d be ready for day 1 of the playoffs but not game 82 of the regular season.

 

[Spawn]

“The question isn’t the validity of the injuries”

Lol what? Could you make forcing your agenda any more obvious?

The guy was out for nearly three years. It’s a huge risk that he’s going to be even be any good at all IF he gets back into a game period. Its COMPLETELY DIFFERENT than other situations?

It truly blows my mind that you can convince yourself otherwise. And you’re only fooling yourself by tossing the Kane hypothetical in there as to appear unbiased.

What is my agenda lol? That I think teams double dipping with LTIR and then having that player in the playoffs is BS? I mean I guess yes… that is my agenda lol.

 

[Blitzkrug]

It's absolutely insane already he made it this far. The guy is trying to come back from something only one guy in modern history has in Lonzo Ball. (who from what i understand has been a pretty big part in his recovery)

I'm not sure if it's feasible to assume he gets game action this season but shit i'm rooting for him. Even getting to come back and not being able to hang anymore i feel like would be a win because he at least gets to go out on his terms rather than just having to outright retire.

Long odds coming back from an almost 3 year layoff on it's on never mind the injury/surgery but at the very least it looks like he's going to get to play said odds.

Hate that they get to use his money to add players and they get to add him for the playoffs too.

A modest proposal: At the beginning of every game in the playoffs, every team has to submit its roster for that game, and it must be under the salary cap. You might be able to use LTIR to add depth, but you can't ice a roster in any playoff game that has a cumulative cap hit over the salary cap. Problem solved.

This is a time where i'm okay with LTIR being used as such. It's mot like Landeskog got hurt before the deadline and went "hey look i'm all better now" miraculously in time for the playoffs. By all accounts and data, this dude's career was cooked to the point even Colorado seemed pessimistic he'd be back.

 

[Mattb124]

It's okay for people to ask questions here.

How many cups are there in a quart? Would really appreciate if someone could help me out here.

 

[Bear of Bad News]

How many cups are there in a quart? Would really appreciate if someone could help me out here.

I can't answer that question about cups, but I can tell you that to increase playoff scoring, the NHL is only going to allow players named Stanley to wear a cup.

Makes you think.

 

[Bizz]

Nobody freaking out about this??!! Or is that only when Tampa or Vegas does this kind of stuff lol

Difference is Landeskog didn't fake his injuries like Stone did.

 

[SomeDude]

Dude couldn’t wait to get to an even 1000?