GDT: Frozen Four

Tough way to go for Minnesota. Jimmy should go back for another year tbh. No unfinished business!

Brutal day for the Big Ten in general
 
Sucks to end your college career that way. But honestly, it’s perfect for both them. Roster spots are wide open for both of them to come in and play immediately.
 
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Gotta think Minnesota gets rid of Motzko, has not done nearly enough in NCAA tourney
No way. They’d won games in each of the 4 tournaments prior to this one including two frozen fours. It’s HARD to win this tournament. It Motzko goes after that then there might be 3 guys in the entire country with safe jobs
 
No way. They’d won games in each of the 4 tournaments prior to this one including two frozen fours. It’s HARD to win this tournament. It Motzko goes after that then there might be 3 guys in the entire country with safe jobs
I guess it's not necessarily the losses in general but they have blown leads each of those years except for maybe one if I remember correct. Got to win at a program like Minnesota
 
I guess it's not necessarily the losses in general but they have blown leads each of those years except for maybe one if I remember correct. Got to win at a program like Minnesota
Sure but there’s probably 10 programs nationally that you can say you “have to win at”. Motzko has done a fine job. If he goes now the top programs might as well be cycling through coaches every 2-3 years
 
I wouldn't be upset If Rinzel and Moore stayed put another year.
I don't think I would either especially with Moore. But Seravalli has been unequivocal in his reporting that Rinzel is going to be joining the Hawks this season. I don't think he'd say what he's saying in the way he's saying it if he didn't know something.
 
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I don't think I would either especially with Moore. But Seravalli has been unequivocal in his reporting that Rinzel is going to be joining the Hawks this season. I don't think he'd say what he's saying in the way he's saying it if he didn't know something.
Rinzel and Moore have been roomates for two years. Gotta believe that if one goes, they both go.
 
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Do Moore and Rinzel have anything left to prove at that level?

If not, it would be great to see them on the Hawks this year. Burn a year off their ELC's and see what happens at next years training camp.
 
Do Moore and Rinzel have anything left to prove at that level?

If not, it would be great to see them on the Hawks this year. Burn a year off their ELC's and see what happens at next years training camp.
Moore hasn't exactly eclipsed the college level as a scorer. He generates chances at a solid clip though, his issues are mostly with finishing and I'm not sure whether another year in Minnesota will improve that or not.

Rinzel is ready to turn pro in my opinion.

If I had to guess, both will sign over the weekend, finish out the year in the NHL and start with Rockford next year.
 
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Sign both....Moore and RInzel will be just fine in Rockford and hopefully good enough for a cup of coffee by the end.
 
Moore probably would benefit from another year and Rinzel can still add strength .and weight.
How is Moore going to benefit from another year at Minny?

I'll give it a try. I'll start with what his does really well at the NCAA level-

Face-offs. Last night he was 21-8 for 72% while the rest of his team was 18-40 for 45%. He's consistently done well in the dot.
Puck transporting. One reason he's on PP1 is to gain the zone.
Puck retrieval. Another reason he's on PP1 but this is also a positive at even strength.
Defensive play. Yes, Moore lacks hockey IQ with the puck but that doesn't translate to his defensive play.
Good hand to eye coordination with 3 slot defelections for goals this season.
Not afraid to go to the net.

The Minny PP1 ran through Snuggerud, Rinzel, and Wood with Moore mostly as a net front presence. If they don't return, Moore could be a player the PP features. His abilty to score down low needs work whether it's a one-timer, bumper shot, or rebounds. This would be an area he needs to improve. Also, f he returns he'll also get more PK responsibility. And if he returns, perhaps his decision making with the puck improves, even if on the margins. But don't count on it.

I believe he can improve the above with a year in Rockford and another year in Minny won't move the needle much.
 
How is Moore going to benefit from another year at Minny?

I'll give it a try. I'll start with what his does really well at the NCAA level-

Face-offs. Last night he was 21-8 for 72% while the rest of his team was 18-40 for 45%. He's consistently done well in the dot.
Puck transporting. One reason he's on PP1 is to gain the zone.
Puck retrieval. Another reason he's on PP1 but this is also a positive at even strength.
Defensive play. Yes, Moore lacks hockey IQ with the puck but that doesn't translate to his defensive play.
Good hand to eye coordination with 3 slot defelections for goals this season.
Not afraid to go to the net.

The Minny PP1 ran through Snuggerud, Rinzel, and Wood with Moore mostly as a net front presence. If they don't return, Moore could be a player the PP features. His abilty to score down low needs work whether it's a one-timer, bumper shot, or rebounds. This would be an area he needs to improve. Also, f he returns he'll also get more PK responsibility. And if he returns, perhaps his decision making with the puck improves, even if on the margins. But don't count on it.

I believe he can improve the above with a year in Rockford and another year in Minny won't move the needle much.
I generally agree with this. He's playing a fairly mature physical/2-way game already this season which is probably what players that age typically work on the most during their time in college/juniors.

Hockey IQ and skill is probably not going to budge a whole lot from this point onwards regardless of how much time they spend developing, so you might as well get a guy like Moore acclimated to pro hockey ASAP so we can start using his physical tools in our lineup sooner rather than later.


If anything Rinzel is the guy who could probably benefit more from continuing to develop his physical tools against less punishing competition, but I wouldnt want the Hawks FO to run the risk of him taking the UFA route next reason tbh. Rockford seems to be a great spot for our young dmen as well
 
Yeah the officiating today has been non existent. They might as well not even have officials. They don't call a f***ing thing.

It's the funniest thing when refs don't want to "decide the game" by calling penalties (which are part of the game) and then decide the game by not making an obvious call that leads directly to the OT winner. Absolutely brutal. Across all levels.

Just do your job man. Call the penalties you see. That's literally all you need to do.
 
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