Post-Game Talk: From the jaws of defeat…

LTIR

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Get the best players possible. FO are about 35th in terms of factors that win you or lose you games.
Not how it works. They will add a player to fit a specific role and not get another J.Skinner or Kakko
 

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Was annoying seeing people shit on him in the gdt. It’s so f***ing old.
I couldn't watch the game and reading the GDT it felt like we were getting our asses kicked. The first 10-15 pages was just shitting on Stu. Figured we were down big and was happy I didn't watch. Went to page 37 and saw that we had won in OT. WTF. Stu let in 2 goals...one of which was tipped by Drai and we are shitting on him like that...
 

Oilslick941611

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I couldn't watch the game and reading the GDT it felt like we were getting our asses kicked. The first 10-15 pages was just shitting on Stu. Figured we were down big and was happy I didn't watch. Went to page 37 and saw that we had won in OT. WTF. Stu let in 2 goals...one of which was tipped by Drai and we are shitting on him like that...
first period was bad.

Rest of the game was perfectly fine from everyone.
 

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I couldn't watch the game and reading the GDT it felt like we were getting our asses kicked. The first 10-15 pages was just shitting on Stu. Figured we were down big and was happy I didn't watch. Went to page 37 and saw that we had won in OT. WTF. Stu let in 2 goals...one of which was tipped by Drai and we are shitting on him like that...

I usually go by Knoblauch's comments. He said he played well last night. People act like elite goalies rarely let in high quality chances and never let in anything else. He's also being paid 2.X million per year.

The Oilers should probably explore an upgrade to Pickard to have a 1A/1B, but that doesn't appear to be in the cards this year. I guess perhaps if Kane is on LTIR until playoffs, but I don't think there are any dramatic upgrades available at a good price.
 

Jimmi McJenkins

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Somehow my biggest takeaway from last night was the reinforcement of how amazing a skater Kulak is. He was flying. To the point where he was often are best option for zone entries throughout the game, breaking through the Bruins snoozefest neutral zone system. Damn lucky to have him, and very glad he is an Oiler.
He's become such a good player, he's just a found top-4 defenseman and the Oilers are much better off because it.
 

ToeMcDrag83

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He's become such a good player, he's just a found top-4 defenseman and the Oilers are much better off because it.
It's nuts how valuable he is. Doesn't matter who he's been paired with this year, he has been the model of consistency and made his partner's job easier, whether it's been Nurse, Emberson, or Bouchard last night. Dude is logging 20+ minutes a night.
 

Jimmi McJenkins

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It's nuts how valuable he is. Doesn't matter who he's been paired with this year, he has been the model of consistency and made his partner's job easier, whether it's been Nurse, Emberson, or Bouchard last night. Dude is logging 20+ minutes a night.
In my mind it's really changed (along with Nurse's uptick) how the team views improving the blueline, it's alot less urgent and concerning, imo.
 

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I couldn't watch the game and reading the GDT it felt like we were getting our asses kicked. The first 10-15 pages was just shitting on Stu. Figured we were down big and was happy I didn't watch. Went to page 37 and saw that we had won in OT. WTF. Stu let in 2 goals...one of which was tipped by Drai and we are shitting on him like that...
2 goals against in the first period in a year he has been bad will draw criticism. Is what it is.

That being said he locked it down afterwards and is a reason the Oilers were able to come back. Pasta had a couple of really good chances.
 
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brentashton

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I couldn't watch the game and reading the GDT it felt like we were getting our asses kicked. The first 10-15 pages was just shitting on Stu. Figured we were down big and was happy I didn't watch. Went to page 37 and saw that we had won in OT. WTF. Stu let in 2 goals...one of which was tipped by Drai and we are shitting on him like that...
It gets back to the sheer lack of consistency that the annointed #1 goaltender, Stu Skinner demonstrates in his game and frankly, is one of his only consistent characteristics he does have. Last night he lost the tipped goal, he wasn’t tracking the puck well, wasn’t feeling the puck as evidenced by him fumbling around the crease for loose pucks, playing certain plays with low average positioning etc..

Good #1 goalies typically are dependable and can be found to have solid fundamentals that allow them minor swings one way or the other from their otherwise above-average performance. Skinner doesn’t have minor swings in performance. He can swing quite wide at times.

Until he can deliver consistency in his game to game, week to week, month to month performance we shouldn’t be surprised by cries of frustration with his game, especially during the course of a GDT thread where anything is possible.
 

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I couldn't watch the game and reading the GDT it felt like we were getting our asses kicked. The first 10-15 pages was just shitting on Stu. Figured we were down big and was happy I didn't watch. Went to page 37 and saw that we had won in OT. WTF. Stu let in 2 goals...one of which was tipped by Drai and we are shitting on him like that...
Accurate assessment.

I usually go by Knoblauch's comments. He said he played well last night. People act like elite goalies rarely let in high quality chances and never let in anything else. He's also being paid 2.X million per year.

The Oilers should probably explore an upgrade to Pickard to have a 1A/1B, but that doesn't appear to be in the cards this year. I guess perhaps if Kane is on LTIR until playoffs, but I don't think there are any dramatic upgrades available at a good price.
Knobs comments are often quite insightful for the game overall. Always a good listen. But on the specific topic of Stu, the first goal was “completely not his fault.”
 

TheNumber4

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Emberson is also helping the situation. I think my take has gone from "the Oilers need another top 4 defenseman" to "the Oilers need another bottom 4 defenseman," but I'm someone who thinks Stetcher should be the #7.
I’ve been liking Stechers game a lot lately. His confidence with the puck and in the o-zone is growing steadily. Last night was disappointed to see a bad read on goal 2 though.
 

iCanada

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And we haven't even played SJ or ANA yet

Worth noting - we have the fourth easiest schedule in the league if you average out the points percentages of our opponents of our remaining games.

There is some bad news there though, too;

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f***ing Vegas.

Calgary, LA, and Vancouver though are all in the top 10 for most difficult remaining schedules.
 

nally

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So - I'm normally not into the sports gambling thing but like - oddsmakers currently have Draisaitl winning the Art Ross at 20:1 and the Hart at 25:1.

I can't help but feel like that's easy money.

I feel like worst case you cash out a couple of months from now and double or triple your money.
I just emailed bet365 to make me a bet that includes Drai winning the Hart, Art Ross, Rocket as well as the Oilers winning the division. I've got $46 to use. I could see Matthews taking the Rocket and Dave-o the Art Ross...AND Vegas the division...but if not... : P
 

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Hyman is a f***ing warrior... even when he wasn't connecting early on in the season... never a doubt that he was giving it his all and no player on the Oilers gives 100% more often than Hyman.
Yet I was defending him from the usual falling on players that goes on here when they go through a tough stretch. With posters matter of fact telling me it doesn't matter at all what he did last season. I don't know. We're a demanding fanbase. Hyman more than earned some benefit of doubt and even at tht you could see the try was still in his game and getting chances. The 55 goals is outlier, will never happen for him again. 30-40 is good benchmarks for him.

But this fanbase, some posters were shittng on Ekholm after the Florida game. Saying he's not the same player. The cool kids use the term "washed" now apparently.
 

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