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Lemay, Gagnon, DLC. Go check for yourself .... it's really becoming a fast trend and a soon-to-be never-ending story.
French media frenzy
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Emkay
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The subject: Should we ban clickbait? Seriously... How would you even implement that? Outside of waiting for the Liberals to ban everything but CBC I mean... And even then, they'd click bait you also...
Ezpz
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I don't support any media muzzling in Canada. In China, the government sees order and peace being integral parts of a stable economy in which they can prosper indefinitely. In the States, rich people only care about getting rich, no regard for anything else or the consequences of that mindset. Even then, China's muzzle is to prevent foreign interference which has had mixed results; sometimes they create a narrative that is impossible to walk back. Like the government does not want to support Russia in Ukraine but some of their citizens are so brainwashed by pro-Russia propaganda since their youth that they voluntarily signed up to go fight for Russia. They were taught Canada is great because of Norman Bethune introducing western medicine to them so many were not on board with trashing Canada over the Huawei thing and many are thrilled about Canada and China "teaming up" against the USA in the trade war.
My point is China's current government is interested in preserving Chinese growth and are generally benevolent towards their people, but it can change at the drop of a dime depending on international political climate, dissention from the people (i.e. they caved in to end COVID lockdowns because people were upset other countries stopped. They also set housing price limits per square foot, depending on city and district location, which decimated the perceived wealth of rich but made housing affordable for regular families and absolutely crushed the rental market prices. My two bedroom that was 3000 rmb a month when I lived there was about 1800 rmb after COVID), and leadership changes.
So media control can go in good and bad directions depending on weather. I know I am making it sound like China is better than here, it currently is, but things were the complete opposite 10 years ago. Media weren't allowed to report on smog and air pollution and death tolls of building fires and other shit. I lived in one of the most polluted cities and could not see beyond the 12th or 13th floor of a high rise on the worst days. Pollution indexes were "western propaganda" and anyone who did not live in those cities in China ate it up. Similarly a building caught fire a few kms from mine and my entire wechat zone (think facebook wall) blew up with videos and live reports of the situation. They were all scrubbed within a few hours and the fire was erased from the media. After some backlash they put it back up and said there were zero deaths and it was under control. That entire building was blazing, in the middle of the day, in an area where tons of grandparents look after the house while parents work. It was unbelievable that nobody was in the building. Same with their COVID death totals, absolutely mental to believe (I don't beleive) they escaped with less deaths than Canada until several years in.
When you allow media to be controlled, you are giving completely autonomy to rich or government to write the narrative. We cannot be sure there is any benevolent rich people in Canada, considering how many are quiet now and others have supported bending the knee to the USA. Thus, let the French media go crazy. It's too dangerous to let anyone decide what can or can't be media because you can be sure the first thing that is snuffed out is legitimate media like the CBC rather than tabloid trash.
I would be in favour of a law that oversees fact checking media sources though. Like warning labels "this information is not corroborated by any legitimate source and is highly speculative, viewer discretion is advised". Kind of a consumer protection thing, like how they target false advertising. Enforcement is another can of worms, since corps get off with lying all the time.
More important though is educating our youth on how to engage with media and discerning the difference between truth and opinion. Too many people think CBC, the only Canadian media with integrity, by law, is fake news compared to the gluttonty of American owned news like Fox and Postmedia (which owns a good 80% of notable newspapers within the country).
If anything we should be encouraging these French tabloids and banning foreign companies from owning media in Canada. These American media companies have been peddling Russian and American propaganda to our country in absurd quantities since Facebook blew up to the point that there's Canadians who legitimately believe Canada is broken and should split up like we're Yugoslavia or that Trudeau was a space lizard sent to destroy Canada. Nationalizing the news is the only way to avoid foreign interference; China figured it out first as much as I hate to credit them and admit to my wife that I was wrong. (The real issue is reality has a left-leaning bias that some people cannot get over as being true so they think any news that doesn't peddle their particular view is fake or biased.) If you engage with this shit you are encouraging it to spread, btw. The whole reason the world has turned to this form of media is because it generates engagement that traditional, boring, accurate, and truthful news did not.
As long as it isn't foreign interference I do not give a shit what media say. If it's American backers spewing shit out of Danielle Smith's mouth and supporting what is actually impossible separation, I give a shit. Alberta was created by the Federal government after they purchased the land from the Hudson's Bay Company, who were initially given the lands by the King of England for the purpose of trade, and is almost entirely Indigenous territorial lands. The first settlers were not these racist people but French settlers who later integrated to become Metis. The people of Alberta do not own the province or it's resources, as the treaties and the land itself belong to both the Dominion of Canada and the Indigenous peoples. Completely different circumstances than the province of Quebec, which predates Canada as an entity and were the OG colonial plunderers. Imagine an ethnic Indian province forming in Brampton 40 years from now and asking to separate from Canada 20 years after that, that is what Alberta's 5% seditionists are; whiny immigrants.
tl;dr
let them speak. let more Canadian voices speak. Let Alberta media cry about how unfair their life is because of equalization payments, when they will be the poorest province in the country after the rest of the world moves to clean energy because they have literally nothing else to offer and haven't used the boon to diversify whatsoever. Let there be Canadian discussion about Canadian problems. Let the French media pretend we are getting Crosby and get angry when we don't. It's up to us to not buy into ragebait and keep a level and educated opinion about happenings.
btw Crosby is totally coming to the habs i heard it from a relative that lives in nova scotia that knows him through about five degrees of separation. the caveat is we also have to sign jack johnson, whose dad once predicted the two of them would retire with the Habs together. somehow the mfer hasn't retired yet, probably because his parents screwed him out of his career earnings. maybe his dad not a reliable source after all.
My point is China's current government is interested in preserving Chinese growth and are generally benevolent towards their people, but it can change at the drop of a dime depending on international political climate, dissention from the people (i.e. they caved in to end COVID lockdowns because people were upset other countries stopped. They also set housing price limits per square foot, depending on city and district location, which decimated the perceived wealth of rich but made housing affordable for regular families and absolutely crushed the rental market prices. My two bedroom that was 3000 rmb a month when I lived there was about 1800 rmb after COVID), and leadership changes.
So media control can go in good and bad directions depending on weather. I know I am making it sound like China is better than here, it currently is, but things were the complete opposite 10 years ago. Media weren't allowed to report on smog and air pollution and death tolls of building fires and other shit. I lived in one of the most polluted cities and could not see beyond the 12th or 13th floor of a high rise on the worst days. Pollution indexes were "western propaganda" and anyone who did not live in those cities in China ate it up. Similarly a building caught fire a few kms from mine and my entire wechat zone (think facebook wall) blew up with videos and live reports of the situation. They were all scrubbed within a few hours and the fire was erased from the media. After some backlash they put it back up and said there were zero deaths and it was under control. That entire building was blazing, in the middle of the day, in an area where tons of grandparents look after the house while parents work. It was unbelievable that nobody was in the building. Same with their COVID death totals, absolutely mental to believe (I don't beleive) they escaped with less deaths than Canada until several years in.
When you allow media to be controlled, you are giving completely autonomy to rich or government to write the narrative. We cannot be sure there is any benevolent rich people in Canada, considering how many are quiet now and others have supported bending the knee to the USA. Thus, let the French media go crazy. It's too dangerous to let anyone decide what can or can't be media because you can be sure the first thing that is snuffed out is legitimate media like the CBC rather than tabloid trash.
I would be in favour of a law that oversees fact checking media sources though. Like warning labels "this information is not corroborated by any legitimate source and is highly speculative, viewer discretion is advised". Kind of a consumer protection thing, like how they target false advertising. Enforcement is another can of worms, since corps get off with lying all the time.
More important though is educating our youth on how to engage with media and discerning the difference between truth and opinion. Too many people think CBC, the only Canadian media with integrity, by law, is fake news compared to the gluttonty of American owned news like Fox and Postmedia (which owns a good 80% of notable newspapers within the country).
If anything we should be encouraging these French tabloids and banning foreign companies from owning media in Canada. These American media companies have been peddling Russian and American propaganda to our country in absurd quantities since Facebook blew up to the point that there's Canadians who legitimately believe Canada is broken and should split up like we're Yugoslavia or that Trudeau was a space lizard sent to destroy Canada. Nationalizing the news is the only way to avoid foreign interference; China figured it out first as much as I hate to credit them and admit to my wife that I was wrong. (The real issue is reality has a left-leaning bias that some people cannot get over as being true so they think any news that doesn't peddle their particular view is fake or biased.) If you engage with this shit you are encouraging it to spread, btw. The whole reason the world has turned to this form of media is because it generates engagement that traditional, boring, accurate, and truthful news did not.
As long as it isn't foreign interference I do not give a shit what media say. If it's American backers spewing shit out of Danielle Smith's mouth and supporting what is actually impossible separation, I give a shit. Alberta was created by the Federal government after they purchased the land from the Hudson's Bay Company, who were initially given the lands by the King of England for the purpose of trade, and is almost entirely Indigenous territorial lands. The first settlers were not these racist people but French settlers who later integrated to become Metis. The people of Alberta do not own the province or it's resources, as the treaties and the land itself belong to both the Dominion of Canada and the Indigenous peoples. Completely different circumstances than the province of Quebec, which predates Canada as an entity and were the OG colonial plunderers. Imagine an ethnic Indian province forming in Brampton 40 years from now and asking to separate from Canada 20 years after that, that is what Alberta's 5% seditionists are; whiny immigrants.
tl;dr
let them speak. let more Canadian voices speak. Let Alberta media cry about how unfair their life is because of equalization payments, when they will be the poorest province in the country after the rest of the world moves to clean energy because they have literally nothing else to offer and haven't used the boon to diversify whatsoever. Let there be Canadian discussion about Canadian problems. Let the French media pretend we are getting Crosby and get angry when we don't. It's up to us to not buy into ragebait and keep a level and educated opinion about happenings.
btw Crosby is totally coming to the habs i heard it from a relative that lives in nova scotia that knows him through about five degrees of separation. the caveat is we also have to sign jack johnson, whose dad once predicted the two of them would retire with the Habs together. somehow the mfer hasn't retired yet, probably because his parents screwed him out of his career earnings. maybe his dad not a reliable source after all.
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We've banned cigarette ads, shouldn't we be able to ban clickbait, which is misinformation at best?
Grate n Colorful Oz
Get a grip
Some of the worst culprits of this are at BPM radio. Laraque, Martin Lemay, Marinaro, etc. The have waaaaaaaaaay to much time on air so they use a lot of it by encouragin speculation among themselves and their listeners. As someone who listens regularly, it kinda drives me nuts but it's sometimes a lot of fun too when done right. It's akin to the discussions you have here or with your buddies irl, it's dumb but mostly harmless fun.
Then you have the sites à potins with the Max Trumansof this world and the other parasites like the guys at Hockey30 or Habsolumentfan. It's complete trash and operated by soulless weasels. But it's like asking TMZ not to drop articles on Paris Hilton's/the Kardashians' lovelife... what can you do.
Edit : on the other hand, the french media also have the cream of the crop all languages included : the guys at Radio-Canada like Leclerc, Godin, etc., the 98.5 crew with Mcguire and Dubé, and Pierre and Marc on RDS are all ancient god-tier, so it balances everything out imo.
Hockey30 is pure clickbait, rumormongering heavy mouthbreathers. To top it off, their mastery of French is downright horrible.
Ezpz
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As much as I love to shit on the French media, tell me you don’t actually think this is a French thing? All media is clickbait… ALL!
WeThreeKings
Habs cup - its in the BAG
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No i do not think it's a French thing, but I am talking about the actual situation in the French media market
Team_Spirit
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I haven't heard anything Crosby related except he's at the worlds with MAF
You probably engaged with Crosby to Habs content and the algorithm fed you more.
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What an absurd discussion. Ever opened Facebook? 99% of what's on there is AI-generated clickbait and had nothing to do with the "french media". And more to the point you do have the option of not listening to sports radio shows (the lowest form of sports entertainment known to man) or to refrain from clicking on articles.
By making the thread, you gave them the ONLY thing they care about... engagement. Same thing for HFBoards as well, btw. How do you think they pay their bills?
By making the thread, you gave them the ONLY thing they care about... engagement. Same thing for HFBoards as well, btw. How do you think they pay their bills?
Kimota
ROY DU NORD!!!
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Kimota
ROY DU NORD!!!
Where are clickbaits occuring? Is it on You Tube or Facebook or X, where? Sometime I check BPM sport or JC on You Tube clips but I have seen them talk about Crosby one time.
OnTheRun
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Now, everybody went to watch the French media, to see if it's true that they are talking about Habs and Crosby. In fact the open post was probably written by Journal de Montréal's owner.Brilliant.
Now, what French Media means. ? RDS, Lapresse, TVA and ? Because if by media, he's talking about Hockey30, Dans les coulisses, Vestiaire, etc..they are only kids or random young wannabe journalists,
Paddyjack
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Y'en aura pas de facile
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I can confirm I've heard it discussed on the radio a few times in the last weeks, and since the Habs are eliminated, it had an uptick.
And how did you decide that Nostradamus?
I for one see it a very logical and possible thing.
