GDT: Free Agent Frenzy

[Ricelund]

They are over the cap floor, thanks to 8.2M of rookie bonuses, which are count against he floor (but capfriendly doesn't count them).

Oh, got it. Thanks.

 

[Scottgaf1]

Always wait for the full offseason to judge where the team is. Lots of ways to build a roster.

My only preference is to avoid 4+ year deals on middling players. I don't mind stop gaps to remain competitive, but paying guys when they arent playing can set a rebuild back a long ways.

 

[izlez]

That's not happening.

Yzerman supposedly drop kicked a guy off the team for struggling down the stretch. He won't send a guy back down to GR for more seasoning for the same?

What part of getting time reduced to 15 minutes and going -3 and 0 points in the last 2 games, 2 huge games, really cemented his spot?

 

[dalem177]

Dallas has younger and better talent than Detroit right now and it's not really debatable.

And they got Brendan Smith!

 

[norrisnick]

Yzerman supposedly drop kicked a guy off the team for struggling down the stretch. He won't send a guy back down to GR for more seasoning for the same?

What part of getting time reduced to 15 minutes and going -3 and 0 points in the last 2 games, 2 huge games, really cemented his spot?

Because there is literally nothing else for him to learn in the AHL. If you want him to be an AHLer, stick him in GR. If you want him to be an NHLer he has to play in the NHL.

 

[RedHawkDown]

If Ed is sent down, that would truly be hilarious.

Chiarot-Seider
Maatta-Petry
Gustafsson-Holl
Johansson

Worst defense in the NHL, and it's not close.

 

[izlez]

Because there is literally nothing else for him to learn in the AHL. If you want him to be an AHLer, stick him in GR. If you want him to be an NHLer he has to play in the NHL.

How many times has this exact thing been said about this exact player while he stayed down in GR?

 

[Henkka]

Mathew Joseph traded to St. Louis... don't have to face Perron at practise.

 

[norrisnick]

How many times has this exact thing been said about this exact player while he stayed down in GR?

And it hasn't been wrong. Yet people keep being shocked that an AHL all-star hasn't yet calibrated to NHL pace. Ed would be much better with a full NHL season under his belt, but here we are.

 

[izlez]

And it hasn't been wrong. Yet people keep being shocked that an AHL all-star hasn't yet calibrated to NHL pace. Ed would be much better with a full NHL season under his belt, but here we are.

Well ok. I brought up the idea that that is what Yzerman might do based on his track record. Not whether or not HFBoards thought it was a good idea

 

[norrisnick]

Well ok. I brought up the idea that that is what Yzerman might do based on his track record. Not whether or not HFBoards thought it was a good idea

HFBoards has nothing to do with it.

There is an expectation that people learn from mistakes.

Not that I think Yzerman is dumb, but I'd bet if anyone asked him he'd acknowledge that he's missed opportunities to get key kids into the lineup. He's mentioned missing out due to injury at times, but it's not like we had a gangbuster blue line where someone couldn't sit for a few games to get a kid a look.

And this isn't just about Ed. AlJo more than anyone. At the end of the '22-23 season SY mentioned that AlJo would have been the call up late if healthy. Yet didn't figure out a way to get him in this past season.

 

[Henkka]

- Tatar back to Devils, 1.8M
- Buchnevich extended for 6 years, 8.0M
- Mathieu Joseph + 3rd <> STL future considerations (interesting dump)
- James Reimer to Buffalo, 800k
- Victor Olofsson to VGK, 1.05M
- Hedman extension, 4 years, 8.0M (dirt cheap)
- Faksa DAL <> STL for future considerations

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Yzerman supposedly drop kicked a guy off the team for struggling down the stretch. He won't send a guy back down to GR for more seasoning for the same?

What part of getting time reduced to 15 minutes and going -3 and 0 points in the last 2 games, 2 huge games, really cemented his spot?

Those were tight games when the Wings were trying to sneak into the playoffs. It's not surprising Fester shortened his bench.

Walman is 28 years old with 200+ NHL games under his belt. Ed is 21 years old with 25 games in the NHL. The expectations and potential for growth aren't the same.

 

[izlez]

HFBoards has nothing to do with it.

There is an expectation that people learn from mistakes.

Not that I think Yzerman is dumb, but I'd bet if anyone asked him he'd acknowledge that he's missed opportunities to get key kids into the lineup. He's mentioned missing out due to injury at times, but it's not like we had a gangbuster blue line where someone couldn't sit for a few games to get a kid a look.

And this isn't just about Ed. AlJo more than anyone. At the end of the '22-23 season SY mentioned that AlJo would have been the call up late if healthy. Yet didn't figure out a way to get him in this past season.

And this really goes back to my original point. What part of having 7-8 NHL defenseman on the roster, not counting Edvinsson, indicates that he's looking for opportunities to get Edvinsson into the lineup?

 

[Ricelund]

And this really goes back to my original point. What part of having 7-8 NHL defenseman on the roster, not counting Edvinsson, indicates that he's looking for opportunities to get Edvinsson into the lineup?

Edvinsson’s got a spot man. Are you making things up just to complain?

 

[norrisnick]

And this really goes back to my original point. What part of having 7-8 NHL defenseman on the roster, not counting Edvinsson, indicates that he's looking for opportunities to get Edvinsson into the lineup?

He drafted him. If he doesn't want to play him, he should trade him for someone he would play while he still has any value. Which right now is a hell of a lot, but a couple more 8-10 game seasons and not so much.

 

[better Red than Dead]

And this really goes back to my original point. What part of having 7-8 NHL defenseman on the roster, not counting Edvinsson, indicates that he's looking for opportunities to get Edvinsson into the lineup?

He learned his lesson this last season, he knows he should have called him up earlier and that it might have led to a playoff birth. Edvinsson is top 4 here gojng forward

 

[izlez]

Edvinsson’s got a spot man. Are you making things up just to complain?

I'm not even complaining. I'm just having a discussion about the roster.

Last year, Yzerman thought Ed needed more seasoning time. Honestly I agreed.

I'm not so sure I saw enough at the end of the year that I think has him locked in. It looks like we have a lot of defenseman in the roster. I think we need to take an honest look if Yzerman might keep him down based on his roster construction

 

[Henkka]

Think Edvinsson is in the team.

Walman gave that spot already and was traded away.

Also his difference to Seider is 57 NHL games less at same point of career. I think they can trust him as well as they did for Moritz.

 

[better Red than Dead]

Not a free agent but it’s be great if they made a run at Rutger McGroarty, we have to give up some prospects but that’s a trade I hope they explore

 

[Bench]

Well shit.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1808221663265272117

 

[Run the Jewels]

Think Edvinsson is in the team.

Walman gave that spot already and was traded away.

Also his difference to Seider is 57 NHL games less at same point of career. I think they can trust him as well as they did for Moritz.

Yzerman seemed to suggest Edvinsson and AlJo will be in Detroit.

 

[Euro Twins]

Our strategy going into 24/25. 0 GAA

 

[JediOrderPizza]

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[raymond23]

It is just crazy to me that people have such a long leash for Yzerman simply because he was a legendary player here. If Holland was making these moves (or lack thereof) people would be losing it.

I am judging the guy independent of what he’s done for this city and for Detroit sports. I’m also not going to just assume some 4D chess moves are coming before they actually happen, given that he has made exactly 0 such moves in Detroit since arriving as the GM. Yzerman the player is a legend in my eyes. Yzerman the GM has not been that great apart from solid 1st round drafting, and I am worried about the direction he has for this team. To some people it seems that opinion translates to “I’m freaking out and the sky is falling!!!!”, and I’m not sure why.

I absolutely feel you, it's pretty easy to doubt Yzerman right now. The Walman trade and the lack of UFA aggressiveness makes you question the direction we're headed. His pre-draft presser also left me feeling a lot of doubt

At the same time, I try to acknowledge that we’ve gotten better every single year. We also have a prospect pool that's been rated #1 in the league by multiple outlets - many of those prospects on the cusp of being in Detroit full time

We are one bad contract away from really f***ing our future. Part of that is on Yzerman for deals he's handed out BUT at this point roster and cap flexibility is huge to our future success. I think we're far from done in terms of roster building this summer. Or that's what I'm hoping for