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Bjornar Moxnes said:
Absolutely no to Desharnais.
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I get it, I honestly do, but beggars can't be choosers and half the league is looking for a RHD who can take a shift. I wouldn't do it without sending some $ back but he's proven to have a higher ceiling than what the team has rolled out at bottom pair RD this season.
 
Joeyjoejoe said:
He plays all forward positions
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I was just mentioning the position he actually plays, he has taken more faceoffs this year, than anyone on the Senators and has played 30% less games.
If he comes to Ottawa it would be at centre. Sure any centre can play the wing but JT plays centre for the nucks.
 
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Duncstar said:
If we trade for Pettersson, it's:

Norris+Zub+small add,

For: Pettersson.

Then we'd need to turn around and hopefully pickup a top 6 RHD, hopefully someone like Connor Murphy or an expiring RHD.

Painful yes, but consider that we have Poolie who subscribes to the cup winning formula of having

1 star C
1 elite C
1 elite power fwd
1 star D
1 top D
1 elite G.

I mean, if that's your recipe for a cup and you beleive you can get the best Pete then you make this trade. Cue the moans and cries about Zub but it's the only way this trade happens.
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I could see that because it wouldn't surprise me if management isn't sold on Zub due to his injury history, but it would leave a massive hole in our lineup without the cap to get a replacement.

Kleven makes more sense if VAN is high on him. He can play for them right away. While we lose more long term by moving Kleven, Pettersson would be a win now move. Kleven is still very much only playing #6-#7 minutes for us.
 
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frightenedinmatenum2 said:
I could see that because it wouldn't surprise me if management isn't sold on Zub due to his injury history, but it would leave a massive hole in our lineup without the cap to get a replacement.

Kleven makes more sense if VAN is high on him. He can play for them right away. While we lose more long term by moving Kleven, Pettersson would be a win now move. Kleven is still very much only playing #6-#7 minutes for us.
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I hope they steer clear of Petey.
 
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frightenedinmatenum2 said:
I could see that because it wouldn't surprise me if management isn't sold on Zub due to his injury history, but it would leave a massive hole in our lineup without the cap to get a replacement.

Kleven makes more sense if VAN is high on him. He can play for them right away. While we lose more long term by moving Kleven, Pettersson would be a win now move. Kleven is still very much only playing #6-#7 minutes for us.
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Matinpalo has also played pretty well (enough to be a full time NHLer at this point) so maybe Staios and co are now more willing to part with Zub to get Petey. That's a pretty big drop off in experience after Chabot and Jensen though...
 
frightenedinmatenum2 said:
I think people need to consider that the Senators have 49 contracts right now. I think that would impose on their willingness to take a flyer on Boqvist as a depth piece in the lineup, unless they are super high on him.



If we could somehow get Pettersson for Norris and not a very small package of picks+prospects, I would take that gamble with the intention of renting Pettersson and listening on him in the summer if he's not a homerun fit here. His NMC doesn't kick in until July 1st.

Of course, they can't take a contract like that without being okay with the possibility of being stuck with it. But I think there is a possibility that they could use Pettersson as a trojan horse to get value out of Norris and get out of his contract, assuming Vancouver is desperate enough to move him for Norris and not a lot extra.
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Excellent point. My guess is that it could be Miller that moves rather than Pettersson & I doubt they want to lose both. I would still take Brock Boeser RW over both since IMO he would fit better here & we need a RW in our top six to replace Giroux in the very near future.

www.usatoday.com

JT Miller responds to Jim Rutherford comments on Elias Pettersson rift before Canucks-Predators game

Ahead of the Canucks game vs the Predators, forward J.T. Miller responded to Canucks' Jim Rutherford's comments on his rift with Elias Pettersson.
www.usatoday.com www.usatoday.com
 
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Petersson isn't it. He is a phenomenal talent. But Miller fits the make-up of this team 100%


Tkachuk-Miller-Batherson could be a filthy line
Giroux-Stutzle-Perron
Greig-Pinto-Amadio

In the off-season we get Stutzle proper winger support.

Honestly, if there's a way we can get JT, you go for it hard. Feels like perfect player to steer this team to the next level. I honestly would be ecstatic and confident to see him line up against the Matthews, Ahos, Points etc.

Would be thrilling hockey to watch.
 
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aragorn said:
Excellent point. My guess is that it could be Miller that moves rather than Pettersson since he has also called out the GM & I doubt they want to lose both. I would still take Brock Boeser RW over both since IMO he would fit better here & we need a RW in our top six to replace Giroux in the very near future.
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If the Sens end up trading for Boeser after all this, you just gotta laugh :sarcasm:
 
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frightenedinmatenum2 said:
I could see that because it wouldn't surprise me if management isn't sold on Zub due to his injury history, but it would leave a massive hole in our lineup without the cap to get a replacement.

Kleven makes more sense if VAN is high on him. He can play for them right away. While we lose more long term by moving Kleven, Pettersson would be a win now move. Kleven is still very much only playing #6-#7 minutes for us.
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They need a RHD D though...

Definitely a big hole. You're going to get a 50% retained D with a 2nd and 3rd or similar (not big name, a good soldier type)

ReginKarlssonLehner said:
Petersson isn't it. He is a phenomenal talent. But Miller fits the make-up of this team 100%


Tkachuk-Miller-Batherson could be a filthy line
Giroux-Stutzle-Perron
Greig-Pinto-Amadio


In the off-season we get Stutzle proper winger support.
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Agreed but the teams he's willing to go to is small. Petey you can get with a good package.
 
Micklebot said:
Ok, so lots to unpack here...

Huberdeau had just turned 29 when he was traded, I guess that's almost 30, but a bit misleading framing it that way Petterrson is 26, turns 27 at the start of the next season, about 2 1/2 year difference.

Unlike Huberdeau, and Tkachuk, who both were coming off career years, Pettersson has already seen his production decline.

Huberdeau was 28 his first 100 pts seasons, and had 4 consecutive 90 pts pace seasons when he was traded. he was clearly well established as a high point producer,

Cgy didn't turn on M.Tkachuk, he turned on them,
“I put myself in a position with the last deal I signed to kind of reevaluate my life and my career at this stage, and I kind of came to the conclusion after the RFA period (July 13) it was time to look elsewhere,”

Huberdeau was also an excellent player, whether you want to admit it or not. The point I was making is long term deals with massive contracts come with significant risks, especially when you change circumstances. Gaudreau (RIP) is another example of a guy that saw his prodution drop significantly in new circumstances. Louie Eriksson while not as offensively talented, is another example, considered one of the most underated players in the league with Dallas, never really the same after getting traded.
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This was from 31 thoughts....people really don't remember the lead up to Tkachuk wanted to leave the flames which is something I always point out when they say Brady will leave. This was a big moment

"Those players look really frustrated," said Friedman on his most recent 31 Thoughts Podcast. "I think Tkachuk was really frustrated by what happened. That whole puck flipping thing led to a meeting that I think just sent them sideways. I think Tkachuk feels that some of the players didn't want him to create something every game and I think he's confused by that. I think he understands only how to play the game a certain way and I think he's questioning it now. "

There was def a rift in the locker room. FLA took advantage by building a team that supports his style of play and the rest is history.
 
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Torts and Kuzmenko are going to be the most hilarious coach-player duo in the league.
 
Boud said:
This is such an odd deal for the Flyers.

Seems great on the surface for the Flames who are in the thick of it for a playoff spot. Should give them a nice boost
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They cleared some cap since Kuzmenko is a pending UFA and moved two players that weren’t working out for them. I think it makes sense. Calgary probably thinks they can get more out of them but as of now everyone involved is mediocre. And there’s a Kuzmenko/Michkov connection.
 
Cosmix said:
The coaching staff should be making the point with Pettersson! If Pettersson is "uncoachable" then he should be traded. It seems that Miller is a bit of an asshole!
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Nothing wrong with being an asshole at times…especially when the person you’re being an asshole too is a soft little bitch
 
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