Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5

[Agent Zuuuub]

Oh, who knows? But they are both very intense too & I doubt Miller would stand up against Tkachuk given what Tkachuk could do to him.

feels like Brady is a happy go lucky type of guy, while Miller is a competitive asshole MJ type of guy.

I doubt Miller would be scared about getting on Brady, and I doubt Brady would be able to take it well.

 

[Golden_Jet]

feels like Brady is a happy go lucky type of guy, while Miller is a competitive asshole MJ type of guy.

I doubt Miller would be scared about getting on Brady, and I doubt Brady would be able to take it well.

lol funny story.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

considering it is becoming likely that we might not have enough offensive/playmaking talent to make us a top team and really very little hope of getting a player like that through our prospects or picks.

Pettersson would be a good gamble to stave off mediocrity. he is galaxy brains type of hockey IQ and playmaking which is something we lack badly.

lol funny story.

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[Gil Gunderson]

People in here are really underrating Norris. He's turning into a very good defensive centerman, once he's comfortable with his defensive game, he will start putting up more points. That shot isn't going anywhere. Yeah he's overpaid at the moment, but he's missed a lot of time and is having his first healthy season in a while. He could easily get back to being the 30+ goal guy he was, except now he'll also have a great defensive game in addition to that. I know there's injury concerns, but I wouldn't be so quick to trade this guy away, he's a big part of this team.

Pettersson has more upside definitely, but let's not act like Norris isn't currently contributing to the successful season the team has had so far. I doubt the team would be so quick to trade him, even in a Pettersson deal.

I think he's fairly rated. Defensively he's just average, compared to Stutzle and Pinto.

 

[GCK]

feels like Brady is a happy go lucky type of guy, while Miller is a competitive asshole MJ type of guy.

I doubt Miller would be scared about getting on Brady, and I doubt Brady would be able to take it well.

JT Miller was sent out of Tampa for peanuts. Tampa had a great veteran core but they sent him packing. I’d stay far, far away from him

 

[Golden_Jet]

what is

I doubt Miller would be scared about getting on Brady, and I doubt Brady would be able to take it well.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

JT Miller was sent out of Tampa for peanuts. Tampa had a great veteran core but they sent him packing. I’d stay far, far away from him

yea JT miller is great player but i don't think he is good enough to be a wannabee Jordan lol

People in here are really underrating Norris. He's turning into a very good defensive centerman, once he's comfortable with his defensive game, he will start putting up more points. That shot isn't going anywhere. Yeah he's overpaid at the moment, but he's missed a lot of time and is having his first healthy season in a while. He could easily get back to being the 30+ goal guy he was, except now he'll also have a great defensive game in addition to that. I know there's injury concerns, but I wouldn't be so quick to trade this guy away, he's a big part of this team.

Pettersson has more upside definitely, but let's not act like Norris isn't currently contributing to the successful season the team has had so far. I doubt the team would be so quick to trade him, even in a Pettersson deal.

that shot literally could go somewhere. and thats like 3m of Norris value.

I like Norris but you can't be confident about his shoulders until he has 1-2 more seasons without incident, and the shot actually coming back.

 

[Golden_Jet]

yea JT miller is great player but i don't think he is good enough to be a wannabee Jordan lol


that shot literally could go somewhere. and thats like 3m of Norris value.

I like Norris but you can't be confident about his shoulders until he has 1-2 more seasons without incident, and the shot actually coming back.

I’m actually getting much more comfortable with Josh’s shoulder after going to same surgeon Tank went to for his third. Plus being second on team in hits, seems like he has a lot of confidence in it.

 

[LiseL]

13 of his 15 goals came in the first 26 games, i don't think it's a smart move to expect him to recreate that next year.

I remember that a lot of that early production came when he was playing with Cousins & either MacEwen or Gregor. Ironically, none of those players are currently in the line-up. He's good as a 4th line center if his linemates are good at getting him the puck.

 

[SpezDispenser]

I think we all wish.

Reinhardt on waivers. Man that stings I really like his game

Same

 

[Micklebot]

Huberdeau was almost 30 when he signed with the flames and his first 100 point season. Lots of good metrics are in Petersson favour at both ends of the ice. I would look at a better comparable in the flames turning on MTkachuk only to realize they should have built around him.

Whoever gets Pettersson is getting an excellent player

Ok, so lots to unpack here...

Huberdeau had just turned 29 when he was traded, I guess that's almost 30, but a bit misleading framing it that way Petterrson is 26, turns 27 at the start of the next season, about 2 1/2 year difference.

Unlike Huberdeau, and Tkachuk, who both were coming off career years, Pettersson has already seen his production decline.

Huberdeau was 28 his first 100 pts seasons, and had 4 consecutive 90 pts pace seasons when he was traded. he was clearly well established as a high point producer,

Cgy didn't turn on M.Tkachuk, he turned on them,
“I put myself in a position with the last deal I signed to kind of reevaluate my life and my career at this stage, and I kind of came to the conclusion after the RFA period (July 13) it was time to look elsewhere,”

Huberdeau was also an excellent player, whether you want to admit it or not. The point I was making is long term deals with massive contracts come with significant risks, especially when you change circumstances. Gaudreau (RIP) is another example of a guy that saw his prodution drop significantly in new circumstances. Louie Eriksson while not as offensively talented, is another example, considered one of the most underated players in the league with Dallas, never really the same after getting traded.

 

[ottawagm]

I've said it about a number of players but it bears repeating again, with all this Norris talk: selling low on players makes absolutely no sense. If so many of you had had your way, Chabot would be flourishing somewhere else this season and who knows what we would have got in return.

Unless you are also buying low on an upgrade or a position of need.

I'm not sold on Pettersson, but if we think he's a #1 C/LW then it make sense to consider it, if we can swap Forsberg for Lankinenin the same deal to even out the salaries.

 

[aragorn]

The other thing I don't like about acquiring Pettersson is that the Sens play a hard forechecking game with a lot of hitting (Norris second on the team in hits) & Pettersson is a fly by player & rarely throws a hit. IMO he is way too soft to play on this team & I don't see how he fits in with the team strategy & play.

 

[aragorn]

feels like Brady is a happy go lucky type of guy, while Miller is a competitive asshole MJ type of guy.

I doubt Miller would be scared about getting on Brady, and I doubt Brady would be able to take it well.

I'll take a competitive ass hole over someone that you constantly have to hype up to get his intensity going. This is the NHL if they are not driven then their god given talent won't help, look at the Leafs this is their biggest problem in the playoffs, intensity when it's required cannot just be manufactured.

Miller would be an idiot to get in Brady's grill without getting something back in return, players fight in practise from time to time & sometimes it can get out of hand, my money's on Brady. I would also take Miller over Pettersson every time, but I don't think Ott needs either of them, they are playing very well defensively & have plenty of skill to score goals which will come back soon enough.

 

[darude]

I'll take a competitive ass hole over someone that you constantly have to hype up to get his intensity going. This is the NHL if they are not driven then their god given talent won't help, look at the Leafs this is their biggest problem in the playoffs, intensity when it's required cannot just be manufactured.

Miller would be an idiot to get in Brady's grill without getting something back in return, players fight in practise from time to time & sometimes it can get out of hand, my money's on Brady. I would also take Miller over Pettersson every time, but I don't think Ott needs either of them, they are playing very well defensively & have plenty of skill to score goals which will come back soon enough.

While I agree there are different degrees of competitive asshole. It's telling that now two franchises appear to need to move on from the guy.

 

[aragorn]

While I agree there are different degrees of competitive asshole. It's telling that now two franchises appear to need to move on from the guy.

We don't need either guy, they could both be problems, this team has plenty of skill already & have finally learned to play well defensively. Defence wins in the playoffs & we need players who can take the hard hitting physicality & intensity of the playoffs, we don't need soft perimeter players.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I don't think it's in the cards to get Petey and I think it'd be unwise to go after Miller. They should just focus on trying to get a lesser top 6 player so they can give Stu someone to play with. That's the hole in the lineup pretty obviously atm.

 

[aragorn]

I don't think it's in the cards to get Petey and I think it'd be unwise to go after Miller. They should just focus on trying to get a lesser top 6 player so they can give Stu someone to play with. That's the hole in the lineup pretty obviously atm.

They could always play Stu with Giroux & Tkachuk that way Stu has someone to make room for him out there or they could put him in the middle of the two vets who both have scored a lot of goals in the NHL in Perron & Giroux.

Perron is signed for next yr so they have to do something with him & Amadio who seems to have some chemistry with Greig & Pinto on the 3rd line is signed for another two seasons. If all these guys could start producing now, this would be the time to push for a playoff position. We need Perron & Amadio to start putting up some pts & making a difference.

Tkachuk - Norris - Batherson ---------------- Tkachuk - Stutzle - Giroux
Perron - Stutzle - Giroux --------------------- Perron - Norris - Batherson
Greig - Pinto - Amadio ----------------------- Greig - Pinto - Amadio

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Saad is a g

 

[Blotto71]

I don't think it's in the cards to get Petey and I think it'd be unwise to go after Miller. They should just focus on trying to get a lesser top 6 player so they can give Stu someone to play with. That's the hole in the lineup pretty obviously atm.

Agreed. Though I'll continue to say I think Norris on a wing helps the top 6. Him with Tkachuk and Pinto, Timmy with Giroux and Bath.

Grieg centers 3, Ostapchuk 4.

 

[DackellDuck]

It’s often been said that Travis Green’s system, style and coaching personality are similar to Rick Tocchet’s.

Elias Petterson has not been all that good playing under Rick Tocchet. Certainly not 11.6M per year good.

 

[Blotto71]

It’s often been said that Travis Green’s system, style and coaching personality are similar to Rick Tocchet’s.

Elias Petterson has not been all that good playing under Rick Tocchet. Certainly not 11.6M per year good.

Good reason not to trade for him.

 

[Stutzlaaaa]

Yeah do no trade with Vancouver let's somebody else bite on that. Either player for me are not better than Stu in the upcoming seasons and both will be payed more than him which is really not good for us for the upcoming years where we want to add depth to the roster.

We should target the best cheap top6 players available at trade deadline. It not the time to trade for big names for us.I like the option of Quinn if he they want to trade or he wants out. Look for any player with upside or just the perfect fit for the top 6.

We targeting a player who is fast skater, has good hand/playmaking and good shot. Nothing elite juste above average is needed here.

 

[Boud]

It’s often been said that Travis Green’s system, style and coaching personality are similar to Rick Tocchet’s.

Elias Petterson has not been all that good playing under Rick Tocchet. Certainly not 11.6M per year good.

Pettersson had great seasons under Green as a youngster though.

Not advocating to trade for him but not necessarily agreeing with the statement.

Saad is a g

I feel like Saad would be a good pickup here that wouldn’t cost any assets. With Cousins out 8 weeks or whatever it would help round up the roster.

 

[BlueGoose27]

I’d take JT over EP40…he’d fit better. The main reason those two have issues is EP40 doesn’t work as hard as he should. That’s why JT has an issue. You’re paid like a top player, now work like one, act like one, take control, be more assertive, act like you care and want to win. If EP showed more care and want, JT wouldn’t be on his ass. JT knows how talented EP is, but hates the lack of desire to be great. It’s almost like EP is ok w where he’s at. JT wants to get better everyday, every practice, every game…he wants to win, he wants to be perfect and that’s where the difference is. He also admitted he has a temper, but it’s cause of one thing…winning. Anyway, Brady is very similar to that and that’s why I think him and JT would mesh better.