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Sens of Anarchy said:
Why would the Canucks want Perron back for Pettersson? Works for us but.
And it would take picks starting with a 1st on top of that.
According to Cam Robinson .. Pettersson trade rumors may pickup because they are not getting what they want for Miller at this point.

Anyway that relationship and the trade talk is not helping the Canucks
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My comparison was more about cap and people saying 11mill is a lot to dish out but i rather have that for a 26 year old elite center and worry about replacing Perron on the roster with a much cheaper player

Petersson seems like an offseason move unless a bottom feeder makes a move rn.
 
BonHoonLayneCornell said:
There's no chance at all that they would do that for Norris and Perron alone.

Easily add a 1st, a solid prospect, maybe Montgomery, and add something for taking Perron's salary. Still probably gets beat by other teams.
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Yea that’s what I see as well. A bunch of teams probably ready to give more for a top center.

Carolina, Boston, maybe Seattle just to name a few.
 
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You can't trade just prospects and picks for either Miller or Pettersson, equivalent money with term needs to go the other way.

Norris almost certainly has to be part of the trade.

It is very unlikely that we could make Pettersson work, at least not in season. We also simply don't have the assets to get him. If you're Vancouver and you don't "have" to trade Pettersson, because you have the alternative of selling low on Miller, what are you asking for in terms of a pick or prospect to trade Pettersson to Ottawa for something like Norris+Perron? Probably Yakemchuk.

Miller is a different story. Maybe they want a small plus with Norris, but if the second best offer is having to take Chytil just to get a heavily protected 1st, Norris and something like a 2nd starts to look pretty good, even if his contract isn't ideal.
 
Biggest thing with Miller will be convincing him to come

Also not sure if a rookie GM like Staois has the experience to pull the trigger mid season while we are fighting for the playoffs.

its a clear upgrade for a lower than his value cost
 
Blotto71 said:
I get not wanting to move Greig, but what-the-actual-f*** has Norris done this year that Miller wouldn't improve (and, spoiler, Miller has more face-off wins and a better %'age on the dot than Norris)?
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It’s just how much of a chance do you want to take on Miller who seems like he comes with some baggage and to upgrade Milker over Norris, Milker is the better player but I don’t know chemistry, term wise, age it’s worth it.

Ottawa needs Norris AND Milker not one or the other, so it’s an improvement but not sure if I roll the dice on Miller when he has recurring issues. Ottawa doesn’t have enoguh offense but they have great chemistry, Miller would completely change the locker room not sure it’s the best idea
 
frightenedinmatenum2 said:
You can't trade just prospects and picks for either Miller or Pettersson, equivalent money with term needs to go the other way.

Norris almost certainly has to be part of the trade.

It is very unlikely that we could make Pettersson work, at least not in season. We also simply don't have the assets to get him. If you're Vancouver and you don't "have" to trade Pettersson, because you have the alternative of selling low on Miller, what are you asking for in terms of a pick or prospect to trade Pettersson to Ottawa for something like Norris+Perron? Probably Yakemchuk.

Miller is a different story. Maybe they want a small plus with Norris, but if the second best offer is having to take Chytil just to get a heavily protected 1st, Norris and something like a 2nd starts to look pretty good, even if his contract isn't ideal.
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I'm not an advocate for trading Norris, but if you're looking for a shakeup we could do far worse, to the point that I don't think it's a realistic trade tbh, and that's before considering his NMC.
 
Tuna99 said:
It’s just how much of a chance do you want to take on Miller who seems like he comes with some baggage and to upgrade Milker over Norris, Milker is the better player but I don’t know chemistry, term wise, age it’s worth it.

Ottawa needs Norris AND Milker not one or the other, so it’s an improvement but not sure if I roll the dice on Miller when he has recurring issues. Ottawa doesn’t have enoguh offense but they have great chemistry, Miller would completely change the locker room not sure it’s the best idea
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I understand the lockeroom concern that will be for management and Green to figure out as he has history there.

In terms of play. Miller is probably twice the player Norris is. That's a massive upgrade and would instantly be our best center. I would like to keep Norris if there was no cap but Miller makes a lot of sense with his style of play and being able to play both center and wing.
 
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HSF said:
I understand the lockeroom concern that will be for management and Green to figure out as he has history there.

In terms of play. Miller is probably twice the player Norris is. That's a massive upgrade and would instantly be our best center. I would like to keep Norris if there was no cap but Miller makes a lot of sense with his style of play and being able to play both center and wing.
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Unless both he and Pettersson are "locker room cancers", Miller can't be that bad if they are considering keeping him and moving Pettersson.

Also, in a 5D chess sort of way, I don't think Miller spends his entire contract here if we acquire him. Even with his NMC, I think he is easier to move than Norris would be. If we did acquire him, it wouldn't shock me if the idea is go help Ottawa for a season or two, and if you're not happy they will try to move you. In July 2026, it's probably easier to move Miller to the Rangers or Devils than it is to find a home for Norris.

We are at a point where we need to make the playoffs. I don't think missing them is reasonable option for us if we want to keep Brady.

With that said, I will refrain from making a joke about how Norris for Miller is just as substantial of an upgrade for us as Turris for Duchene was.

Micklebot said:
I'm not an advocate for trading Norris, but if you're looking for a shakeup we could do far worse, to the point that I don't think it's a realistic trade tbh, and that's before considering his NMC.
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I think that they would want more than Norris, but if the Rangers offer was Chytil, Lindgren, and a heavily protected 1st - Norris, a 2nd, and another B or C asset would be the better package.
 
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The Sens should trade Chabot LD for Boeser RW straight up, this would reduce the amount of mistakes Ott makes & reduce their goals against while at the same time increase offensive production & give us a Giroux replacement. Then re-sign Boeser with Chabot's money & look for a trade to replace Chabot with a much cheaper LD point producer.
 
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aragorn said:
The Sens should trade Chabot LD for Boeser RW straight up, this would reduce the amount of mistakes Ott makes & reduce their goals against while at the same time increase offensive production & give us a Giroux replacement. Then re-sign Boeser with Chabot's money & look for a trade to replace Chabot with a much cheaper LD point producer.
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Count me out on this one. Chabot has been one of their best this year.
 
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For the love of this team, do not aquire miller or Elias for that matter. Everyone complains that dorion left the cupboard empty, but wants staios to empty our last box of crackers. I for one wouldn't mind a hockey trade but not one where we're adding from our very limited prospect pool or our young guys like ostapchuk and greig.
 
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Kyrou

To St. Louis:
Batherson




To Ottawa:
Morgan Frost

To Philadelphia:
Chabot




To Ottawa:
Berkly Catton

To Seattle:
Norris


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aragorn said:
The Sens should trade Chabot LD for Boeser RW straight up, this would reduce the amount of mistakes Ott makes & reduce their goals against while at the same time increase offensive production & give us a Giroux replacement. Then re-sign Boeser with Chabot's money & look for a trade to replace Chabot with a much cheaper LD point producer.
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Should have kept Chychrun and play him on the left side and trade Chabot
But hey dismantling the Country club is a no no

Boeser would be a good replacement for Giroux who has lost a steep but still has a better PPG than Norris lol. and is cheaper and is +1 vs -9

If Vancouver want Norris + for Miller you just have to make it
It would change the whole dynamic of the team
The guy can skate, score ,59% at the dot, even strength point producer, not afraid to engage, can play RW,LW and C,
Miller plays like 25yo, Norris like 31 even though he's 31 and Norris 25
Their salary is the same basically
 
Norris would have to go back the other way if we acquire Miller or EP. If we want EP, not sure if we have additional cap we can send Vancouver to make it worth their while. We just extended Greig so aren't trading him, and we can't move Pinto because we finally have C depth. They don't need nor would they want Perron. Best we could do is Norris, Amadio, and a conditional pick that gets better.

Norris for Miller would also need a sweetener but what do we even have in the asset pool to add as a sweetener that doesn't mess with our depth? High ankle sprained JBD?
 
Alex1234 said:
Should have kept Chychrun and play him on the left side and trade Chabot
But hey dismantling the Country club is a no no

Boeser would be a good replacement for Giroux who has lost a steep but still has a better PPG than Norris lol. and is cheaper and is +1 vs -9

If Vancouver want Norris + for Miller you just have to make it
It would change the whole dynamic of the team
The guy can skate, score ,59% at the dot, even strength point producer, not afraid to engage, can play RW,LW and C,
Miller plays like 25yo, Norris like 31 even though he's 31 and Norris 25
Their salary is the same basically
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Chabot & Norris for Boeser & Miller????? Not sure what that would do to the room? It's interesting.
 
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aragorn said:
No he has not, he has 3 goals & 20 pts, that is not great. He consistently makes numerous mistakes throughout games, gives the puck away constantly, he's soft & makes way too much for what he delivers.

How so?
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I disagree. The underlying numbers have shown he's one of our best. Xspyrit and others have made that clear in the past.

And while his production isn't as high as we'd like, that applies to the entire team and he's outproduced Sanderson 5v5 a fair bit.
 
ottawagm said:
I don't think Tkachuk would want to stay through a retool, but that is probably what is needed.
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I'm not sure how it would affect the room, we do know that Norris & Tkachuk are close. How close Chabot & Tkachuk are I'm not sure. I think the team could absorb a trade of one expensive player, but I'm not sure about two.

Either Boeser or Miller would immediately add more offence & physicality to the top six something that is needed. The defence already ranks low in points for & that has to improve & while Chabot has that offensive potential he just isn't living up to that potential & makes way too many mistakes IMO. Norris seems to be who the fans have turned against, but I would prefer to trade Chabot before Norris. It would be easier to replace a LD defencemen.
 
aragorn said:
No he has not, he has 3 goals & 20 pts, that is not great. He consistently makes numerous mistakes throughout games, gives the puck away constantly, he's soft & makes way too much for what he delivers.

How so?
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That is the old Chabot, he is not close to that this year. He has been the best or second best D on the team.
 
aragorn said:
No he has not, he has 3 goals & 20 pts, that is not great. He consistently makes numerous mistakes throughout games, gives the puck away constantly, he's soft & makes way too much for what he delivers.

How so?
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O thought you liked Chabot?
 
considering the islanders seem to be throwing hail mary's now i wonder if we could try for duclair or palmeri

both good skaters, duclair a bit riskier due to term but have similar offensive production. The speed alone would be nice
 
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