Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5

[SensFactor]

If we can sign Pinto now and bring in a vet RD to play with Kleven. So be it.

 

[h2]

We can thank Dorion for overpaying Joseph, he was overpaid by about a million.

Dorion loved throwing an extra mil AAV at random players. See Joseph, Norris, Brannstrom.

Outside of the 2018 and 2020 1st rounders, I absolutely hate everything Dorion has done to this franchise.

 

[GCK]

idk, he exceeded expectations for the first two months, met them for a couple, then failed to meet them to finish off the year. Very up and down player,

I'd have held on to him if possible, as I like the depth he adds, but he wasn't getting top 6 time this year, and could see him being a very expensive 4th liner for much of the year.

It’s like people don’t remember Joseph from 2022/23

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

I prefer Amidio but I wouldn't pay a 3rd to make that upgrade. Certainly a strange decision.

Maybe they're not done yet, even after Pinto.

 

[CallSaul]

I prefer Amidio but I wouldn't pay a 3rd to make that upgrade. Certainly a strange decision.

The benefit of Amadio is he can also play C.

There's also something to be said for sake for the sake of change.

I think that's what Staios is doing.

He's limited by contracts in the top 6. But he wants a different vibe everywhere else.

I'd assume he got some good intelligence from Jacques about habits, work ethic, attitude, etc, that's gone into some of these moves.

 

[SensFactor]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1808207036439519584

 

[BondraTime]

Really, really bad trade, especially paired with the signings and seeing the deals yesterday, but it is what it is

Pretty much Chychrun and Joseph for Jensen, when it's all said and done

 

[GCK]

Sign Pinto

Add Nate Schmitt

If there’s room get Daniel Sprong.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Yeah I'm going to wait to see what the replacement is but we're absolutely going to get slower.

The replacement is Amadio. He makes 350k less is probably a comparable player impact-wise.

 

[TheNewEra]

Sign Pinto

Add Nate Schmitt

If there’s room get Daniel Sprong.

schmidt or kylington please, jbd we can try and bury in the ahl

 

[bicboi64]

Joseph is replaced by Amidio,

Here's how I see it

Tank -> Perron (bit of a downgrade)
Joseph -> Amidio (improvement imo)
Kastelic -> Ostapchuk (I like Ostapchuk better but there's risk)
Kelly -> Gregor (close)
Brannstrom -> Kleven (better fit)
Chychrun -> Jensen (better fit)

How is Amadio an improvement over Joseph? He's paid less, but he isn't a good PK, scores at a lesser rate than Joseph (even if Joseph finds a middle ground between last season and the year before), and doesn't have Joseph's speed.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Man staios did turn down first round picks for chychrun.

They could have just done that and then waited Washington out. They had to trade Jensen.

If we did pay the absolute premium of premiums for Jen’s Washington likely would have had to attach a pick to him to get rid of him right now lol

 

[Micklebot]

How is Amadio an improvement over Joseph? He's paid less, but he isn't a good PK, scores at a lesser rate than Joseph (even if Joseph finds a middle ground between last season and the year before), and doesn't have Joseph's speed.

I think he's more appropriate in his role, more consistent too. Joseph piled up points getting thrust into top 6 mins he never should have gotten but the guy could be invisible a lot of the time.

Joseph had 18 goals in three years here (+8 in TbL), Amadio has 30 in his last two seasons.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Man staios did turn down first round picks for chychrun.

They could have just done that and then waited Washington out. They had to trade Jensen.

If we did pay the absolute premium of premiums for Jen’s Washington likely would have had to attach a pick to him to get rid of him right now lol

Where did you read that?

Have a hard time believing a 1st was ever on the table given what he went for.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Where did you read that?

Have a hard time believing a 1st was ever on the table given what he went for.

Dreger

 

[Hale The Villain]

Dreger

Where? When?

 

[Korpse]

Where did you read that?

Have a hard time believing a 1st was ever on the table given what he went for.

Wouldn't be surprised. Seems that after they missed out on some targets in FA, they shifted and acquired a RD using Chychrun.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Wouldn't be surprised. Seems that after they missed out on some targets in FA, they shifted and acquired a RD using Chychrun.

I would be extremely disappointed if we passed up a 1st round pick for Jensen and a future 3rd.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Wouldn't be surprised. Seems that after they missed out on some targets in FA, they shifted and acquired a RD using Chychrun.

They could have just offered way les all. Capitals are like 6 mil above the cap

I would be extremely disappointed if we passed up a 1st round pick for Jensen and a future 3rd.

Could have been 1st from someone else and Jensen from capitals for very little.

 

[Senator Stanley]

Where did you read that?

Have a hard time believing a 1st was ever on the table given what he went for.

On his podcast today, Dreger said that Staois was telling teams at the draft that he had a 1st and 2nd on the table for Chychrun. Dreger immediately cast doubt on that actually being the case.

Maybe he did. Maybe he was bluffing. Maybe he never said anything like that and Dreger's intel is wrong. We'll never know.

 

[Hale The Villain]

On his podcast today, Dreger said that Staois was telling teams at the draft that he had a 1st and 2nd on the table for Chychrun. Dreger immediately cast doubt on that actually being the case.

Ok that makes more sense. Seems obvious he was just trying to get them to up their offers.

I imagine there were several teams offering a 2nd + a secondary piece like a 3rd or a C prospect, but I doubt any team was offering a 1st, let alone a 1st + 2nd.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I think poulin will over rule tierney and we will sign dumba

 

[Gil Gunderson]

I can't think of anything less reliable than "Darren Dreger heard".

I think poulin will over rule tierney and we will sign dumba

Dumba already got massively overpaid by Dallas. You're safe. Really surprising Jim Nill would do something that stupid.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I think poulin will over rule tierney and we will sign dumba

Dumba signed in Dallas.

 

[Senator Stanley]

Ok that makes more sense. Seems obvious he was just trying to get them to up their offers.

I imagine there were several teams offering a 2nd + a secondary piece like a 3rd or a C prospect, but I doubt any team was offering a 1st, let alone a 1st + 2nd.

Maybe he did have a later 1st on the table, and to Staois that 1st for Jensen plus a 3rd was a trade he'd make.

Knowing our desperation for a second pair RHD, you can see how Staois could talk himself into Jensen+3rd over the picks packages that might have been out there.