Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5

[Micklebot]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1808202703245328498

 

[Senator Stanley]

This better not be a real pick.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1808204108853055832

 

[Mark Stones Spleen]

This better not be a real pick.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1808204108853055832

Oh come on

 

[BondraTime]

Joseph trade will definitely be quite bad.

Needed money so the trade makes sense, but he was one of the few guys worth the contract

Can see a future considerations type deal

It's hilarious to see teams pay a 2nd + for Tanner Jeannot and it costs picks to move an actual good 3rd liner

 

[Micklebot]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1808204108853055832

 

[Senscore]

I feel its a mistake trading Joseph

Speed is a distinct weakness now

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Kind of surprising they had to pay considering some of the shite deals handed out yesterday.

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

If they're paying to get rid of Joseph then they must not be done. Pinto obviously needs to be signed, but it wouldn't surprise me if they have their eyes set on one more bottom 6 forward or a bottom pairing dman.

 

[Slippy]

This better not be a real pick.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1808204108853055832

Can it be the pick the Sens need to surrender?

 

[Hale The Villain]

This better not be a real pick.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1808204108853055832

That's a strike for Staios.

Incredibly stupid to trade Joseph, lose a pick and 1M in cap space to sign Perron.

 

[Micklebot]

That's disappointing, but it might mean a deal for Pinto is forthcoming.

 

[Very Stable Genius]

Speed is a distinct weakness now

Plus he was one of the few guys who actually met or exceeded expectations.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

That's a strike for Staios.

Incredibly stupid to trade Joseph, lose a pick and 1M in cap space to sign Perron.

The speed hurts, but Perron should produce in line with his salary and will almost certainly outproduce Joseph as he has the last few years.

 

[Micklebot]

Plus he was one of the few guys who actually met or exceeded expectations.

idk, he exceeded expectations for the first two months, met them for a couple, then failed to meet them to finish off the year. Very up and down player,

I'd have held on to him if possible, as I like the depth he adds, but he wasn't getting top 6 time this year, and could see him being a very expensive 4th liner for much of the year.

 

[SensFactor]

Joseph is the sacrificial lamb for Pinto deal. I liked Joseph speed but he had nights where he was completely useless.

 

[Hale The Villain]

The speed hurts, but Perron should produce in line with his salary and will almost certainly outproduce Joseph as he has the last few years.

Could have kept Joseph, the pick it cost to dump him, and used the extra 1.05M in cap space to outbid Toronto/Winnipeg for Hakaanpa/Miller instead of trading for Perron.

 

[Micklebot]

The speed hurts, but Perron should produce in line with his salary and will almost certainly outproduce Joseph as he has the last few years.

Joseph is replaced by Amidio,

Here's how I see it

Tank -> Perron (bit of a downgrade)
Joseph -> Amidio (improvement imo)
Kastelic -> Ostapchuk (I like Ostapchuk better but there's risk)
Kelly -> Gregor (close)
Brannstrom -> Kleven (better fit)
Chychrun -> Jensen (better fit)

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Could have kept Joseph, the pick it cost to dump him, and used the extra 1.05M in cap space to outbid Toronto/Winnipeg for Hakaanpa/Miller instead of trading for Perron.

Could have ya.

I'm not really arguing for one direction over another, but in a bubble, I think Perron even at this stage of his career, is a better fit for this team than Joseph. The extra mil he costs is easily made up by his higher offensive production. I also think he'll be a calming presence on the 2nd PP unit.

 

[Senator Stanley]

Staois paid a f***ing third rounder for this?

There better be another shoe to drop here.

 

[Micklebot]

Could have kept Joseph, the pick it cost to dump him, and used the extra 1.05M in cap space to outbid Toronto/Winnipeg for Hakaanpa/Miller instead of trading for Perron.

Apparently Hakanpaa is potentially done, his knees are bone on bone and may never play again.

 

[Bileur]

Certainly seems odd to add a pick to move Joseph after giving Amadio (who I don’t see as an upgrade) a similar deal. Maybe there were issues in the room?

 

[Micklebot]

Staois paid a f***ing third rounder for this?

There better be another shoe to drop here.

We can thank Dorion for overpaying Joseph, he was overpaid by about a million.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Joseph is replaced by Amidio,

Here's how I see it

Tank -> Perron (bit of a downgrade)
Joseph -> Amidio (improvement imo)
Kastelic -> Ostapchuk (I like Ostapchuk better but there's risk)
Kelly -> Gregor (close)
Brannstrom -> Kleven (better fit)
Chychrun -> Jensen (better fit)

That's about how I see it too. Joseph/Perron comparisons were made which is what made me go there, but I agree with this assessment of who's replacing who.

I like the fits better overall. I'm hoping Steve has another body or two in mind.

Certainly seems odd to add a pick to move Joseph after giving Amadio (who I don’t see as an upgrade) a similar deal. Maybe there were issues in the room?

It has been implied by a few here that he was a bit of the party ring leader. No clue if there's any truth to that.

 

[GCK]

That's a strike for Staios.

Incredibly stupid to trade Joseph, lose a pick and 1M in cap space to sign Perron.

You really need to get a grasp on what management including Martin and Alfie saw with the team last year.

 

[Micklebot]

Certainly seems odd to add a pick to move Joseph after giving Amadio (who I don’t see as an upgrade) a similar deal. Maybe there were issues in the room?

I prefer Amidio but I wouldn't pay a 3rd to make that upgrade. Certainly a strange decision.