Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5

[The Devilish Buffoon]

I know he is a good solid goaltender but at his age a first + looks like too much to give up.

Fair enough, although I disagree. I’d gladly give up Bos 1st + a 2nd for Markstrom at 4m x 2yrs. He’s a very good goalie and an absolute workhorse.

 

[Micklebot]

Markstrom was in the Vezina hunt for more than half the season, his numbers do not tell the story of his season.

What is the story? Inconsistencies? First 19 games, average. Next 19, great, final 10 brutal.

Talbot was the runaway favourite for the Vezina at one point, then finished the year pretty average, if you aren't consistently good, then what good are you?

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

What is the story? Inconsistencies? First 19 games, average. Next 19, great, final 10 brutal.

Talbot was the runaway favourite for the Vezina at one point, then finished the year pretty average, if you aren't consistently good, then what good are you?

That seems to follow the trend of their team this year in general.

They came out flat and dug a not quite Edmonton sized hole, then they sorta dug themselves out but not enough to make the playoffs.

Then they traded away a few big guys and rolled out a lesser roster to finish the year.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Markstrom at 4.125M for 2 years is probably worth what will likely be a late 1st a year from now.

Glad they took him off the board. I bet we were offering the 25th OVR but he didn't want to come here.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

What is the story? Inconsistencies? First 19 games, average. Next 19, great, final 10 brutal.

Talbot was the runaway favourite for the Vezina at one point, then finished the year pretty average, if you aren't consistently good, then what good are you?

Their entire team fell off a cliff. I’d also argue that Markstrom has been one of the more consistent goalies in the last 5 years. Behind Vasi, Bucky, Saros, Igor, Otter, Demko, and the Boston two, he stands up nicely to just about anyone.

He led the league in GSAE for much of the year and finished top 10 (7th amongst regulars), too. He isnt in the top group of goalies, but he’s usually been near the top of the next group.

What is the story? Inconsistencies? First 19 games, average. Next 19, great, final 10 brutal.

Talbot was the runaway favourite for the Vezina at one point, then finished the year pretty average, if you aren't consistently good, then what good are you?

Their entire team fell off a cliff. I’d also argue that Markstrom has been one of the more consistent goalies in the last 5 years. Behind Vasi, Bucky, Saros, Igor, Otter, Demko, and the Boston two, he stands up nicely to just about anyone.

He led the league in GSAE for much of the year and finished top 10 (7th amongst regulars). He’s not a top goalie but he’s right in that next group behind them.

 

[Wondercarrot]

I wouldn’t have traded Kleven and Boston 1st for that deal.
We are somewhat hamstrung by the lack of assets we can afford to give up.

If we go big game goalie hunting then I want it to be a big time goalie. I’d pay for that, rather than whittle down what assets we have for a “pretty good” short term solution.

Askarov
Saros (signed)
Sorokin

Not saying id give up the 7th but I’d rather do that than give up Kleven and a mid 1st for Markstrom.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Not sure why people are bringing up Kleven, he projects as a better player than Bahl.

 

[Micklebot]

That seems to follow the trend of their team this year in general.

They came out flat and dug a not quite Edmonton sized hole, then they sorta dug themselves out but not enough to make the playoffs.

Then they traded away a few big guys and rolled out a lesser roster to finish the year.

Ok, what about last year?

He was brutal most of the year, yet the team itself finished much better.

I think he was an excellent goalie, that is currently on the wrong side of where age related regression kicks in and it's taking its toll. Maybe with a lighter workload he'd be fine, but I'm not convinced he is a good option unless the cost to acquire is discounted, which it looks like it was not.

 

[OttawaSenators11]

I dunno l, but I think I’d trade #7 for Askarov if need be.

Russian goalies are the best in the world and we be getting a franchise one for the first time ever!

At 22 he’s ready to come in and play very soon.

Buyout Korpisalo, trade Forsberg and the money we save is pretty decent to improve other areas!

 

[Micklebot]

I dunno l, but I think I’d trade #7 for Askarov if need be.

Russian goalies are the best in the world and we be getting a franchise goalie for the first time ever probably if he lives up the expectations.

At 22 he’s ready to come in and play very soon.

I wouldn't, he's still very far from being a sure thing imo.

 

[Wondercarrot]

I dunno l, but I think I’d trade #7 for Askarov if need be.

Russian goalies are the best in the world and we be getting a franchise goalie for the first time ever probably if he lives up the expectations.

At 22 he’s ready to come in and play very soon.

I agree.
If Askarov was in the draft this year and you could get what he is now of would you not pick him at 7?

Who would you take over him at 7?

 

[SpezDispenser]

What is the story? Inconsistencies? First 19 games, average. Next 19, great, final 10 brutal.

Talbot was the runaway favourite for the Vezina at one point, then finished the year pretty average, if you aren't consistently good, then what good are you?

Preach homie!

 

[Wondercarrot]

I wouldn't, he's still very far from being a sure thing imo.

Ohhhh interesting.
Hmmm. Maybe I’m overrating him.

 

[SpezDispenser]

Markstrom at 4.125M for 2 years is probably worth what will likely be a late 1st a year from now.

Glad they took him off the board. I bet we were offering the 25th OVR but he didn't want to come here.

Probably 25th + JBD, which would be fair IMO. I like him, but there are other options

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Ok, what about last year?

He was brutal most of the year, yet the team itself finished much better.

I think he was an excellent goalie, that is currently on the wrong side of where age related regression kicks in and it's taking its toll. Maybe with a lighter workload he'd be fine, but I'm not convinced he is a good option unless the cost to acquire is discounted, which it looks like it was not.

That year with the .892 save % is probably the weakest I've ever seen him, but the team was also underperforming and was the end of Daryl Sutter's tenure. Vladar also saw a .011 save % drop year on year, so something was in the water there that year or something. Markstrom had been above .910 save % every year but 1 of the 7 prior where he had .905. No excuse either way, but he is a guy I see as relatively consistent.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Package 25+Chychrun return for Weegar? It's pretty clear where this Calgary team is headed.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Package 25+Chychrun return for Weegar? It's pretty clear where this Calgary team is headed.

I'd love Weegar. Target #1 imo.

 

[BankStreetParade]

Package 25+Chychrun return for Weegar? It's pretty clear where this Calgary team is headed.

I wonder if they'd be willing to take Forsberg off our hands for a low-level prospect/pick and no cap coming back? Not sure they're gonna wanna roll with Vladar and Wolf for an entire season and he's a UFA at the end of the year, so no commitment for them.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Sharks claim Goodrow. A bit surprising, but it makes sense. They are going to need veterans with Celebrini coming in. Not necessarily star top players, just guys to create the right environment. Similar to how Chicago overpaid to bring in a bunch of 30+ year old players when they got Bedard.

They are going to have a difficult time attracting players because of how bad they are, and it is possibly that they were in his no trade list.

Great deal for the Rangers to get rid of all that cap.

I bet this was premeditated between both teams.

 

[Bileur]

Goodbye Markstrom dream, hello Ullmark dream

See you soon Korpisalo-Forsberg reality.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Package 25+Chychrun return for Weegar? It's pretty clear where this Calgary team is headed.

7+Chychrun for Weegar+9 if Iginla is on the board.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

7+Chychrun for Weegar+9 if Iginla is on the board.

Calgary has no need for Chychrun. Maybe a three-way trade.


Look at that, San Jose bails out the Rangers from the Goodrow contract.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

See you soon Korpisalo-Forsberg reality.

At least we'll be guaranteed another lottery pick!

7+Chychrun for Weegar+9 if Iginla is on the board.

Not enough value to include Weegar imo and Chychrun may not be a great fit given the direction of the team.

Calgary has no need for Chychrun. Maybe a three-way trade.


Look at that, San Jose bails out the Rangers from the Goodrow contract.

Watch them make a deal this summer with SJ getting the better return with this basically being a favor in advance.

 

[Emerica]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1803486696417190253

Reads like Markstrom tried to be flexible and may have been willing to waive if it came down to it

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

What are the chances of a 4th round pick being better than Dellandrea?

https://x.com/i/web/status/1803484074067046543

I'd gladly have given up a 4th for him.