GDT: Free Agency Day 1: You're from Boston? Come on down

[Gurglesons]

I wonder where Sid ends up when he retires after the 2026 Olympics. I dunno if he'd make a good coach, but I dunno what makes a good coach anyway. Maybe a scout? AGM who is Dubas' successor down the road? Maybe he just f***s off and goes fishing and randomly showing up at shitty rinks in little nowhere pockets of NA.

On a boat fishing trying to get his girlfriend pregnant before his sperm count gets too low.

Puustinen is going to be a top 9 RW anyway next year. I don't get it.

Is he?

It's weird how many people have faith in Sullivan not playing Bemstrom, Lizotte, and Hayes over all of our youth.

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807909060747870459

There goes the Skinner dream.

I prefer Chalmers.

 

[HandshakeLine]

It is 100% more fun to watch a bad team with guys that might be long shot diamonds in the rough (but probably aren't) living their dreams than a bad team made up of overpaid vets who have no urgency.

Like how is this even up for discussion? Lol.

 

[Andy99]

Man would Arvidsson had been a nice get

Rakell Sid Rust
Bunting Malkin Arvidsson
DOC Ponomarev Puustinen
Lizotte Hayes Beauvillier

Can’t make players want to sign to,play for a bottom 10 organization…

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

This came up somewhere else and I think @CheckingLineCenter or someone else with experience in the field mentioned that this was a super weird career move. I'm curious about it, for sure.

Looks odd but hard to speculate from outside. Work on an investment team. I’m not an expert on the industry but know a little.

just copying my post here

“FSG is not normal finance firm but typically you don’t leave at Beeston’s level unless it’s to start your own firm or retire. Golden handcuffs are very real. Typically… it means fund (in this case the team) is not doing well and your carried interest (personal equity) is wiped out or you were pushed out for performance/politcal reasons.

However there’s a real chance the pay difference is crazy. Again FSG is not really in the Wall Street bucket, Clearlake fully is. So I don’t really wanna speculate on the reasoning. People kill to be seniors at places like Clearlake, Blackstone because you can make crazy money.

Could actually affect the Penguins if Beeston was the guy who ran point on them.”

Not to be middle man Dan but it could mean something or it could mean nothing. But without in and outs of FSG and the role Beeston is going to I can’t tell you.

 

[Turin]

FWIW the Pens are projected to have well over 30 million in cap space next offseason, even with a Sid extension accounted for.

 

[HandshakeLine]

FWIW the Pens are projected to have well over 30 million in cap space next offseason, even with a Sid extension accounted for.

It's also going to be the first year we're not paying for JJ in like half a decade

 

[Turin]

Looks odd but hard to speculate from outside. Work on an investment team. I’m not an expert on the industry but know a little.

just copying my post here

“FSG is not normal finance firm but typically you don’t leave at Beeston’s level unless it’s to start your own firm or retire. Golden handcuffs are very real. Typically… it means fund (in this case the team) is not doing well and your carried interest (personal equity) is wiped out or you were pushed out for performance/politcal reasons.

However there’s a real chance the pay difference is crazy. Again FSG is not really in the Wall Street bucket, Clearlake fully is. So I don’t really wanna speculate on the reasoning. People kill to be seniors at places like Clearlake, Blackstone because you can make crazy money.

Could actually affect the Penguins if Beeston was the guy who ran point on them.”

Not to be middle man Dan but it could mean something or it could mean nothing. But without in and outs of FSG and the role Beeston is going to I can’t tell you.

Can we just get the Fred Rodgers estate to own the team or something? Local.. wholesome.. not related to Boston and or Lebron James.

 

[IcedCapp]

It is 100% more fun to watch a bad team with guys that might be long shot diamonds in the rough (but probably aren't) living their dreams than a bad team made up of overpaid vets who have no urgency.

Like how is this even up for discussion? Lol.

Major League 1 is way better than Major League 3, basically

 

[ThosePuckingPenguins]

FWIW the Pens are projected to have well over 30 million in cap space next offseason, even with a Sid extension accounted for.

Oh wow. Who comes off the books?

 

[Gurglesons]

FWIW the Pens are projected to have well over 30 million in cap space next offseason, even with a Sid extension accounted for.

So we will go back to competing again and then we will say Kyle Dubas is great because he's doing right by the core?

 

[Dennis Reynolds]

Puustinen is going to be a top 9 RW anyway next year. I don't get it.

Is he?

He was sent down last year so that Jansen Harkins could not score for us.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

FWIW the Pens are projected to have well over 30 million in cap space next offseason, even with a Sid extension accounted for.

They can take on more Hayes-like contracts for picks. Hopefully worse players/contracts for better picks and a better shot at McKenna in 2026.

 

[Gurglesons]

Oh wow. Who comes off the books?

Petts and 3 mil of dead cap.

 

[Nfumass]

Don't complain too much or @IcedCapp will be mean to you.

And tell you your a child for calling Dubas kindergarten Kyle and then make a post with a poop joke about bowels like a real high and mighty adult.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Can we just get the Fred Rodgers estate to own the team or something? Local.. wholesome.. not related to Boston and or Lebron James.

That would own, but they probably wouldn't allow the team to ice any pests, which... boo for me.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Can we just get the Fred Rodgers estate to own the team or something? Local.. wholesome.. not related to Boston and or Lebron James.

hate to tell you but the private equity bros are coming for everything mate

 

[orby]

Skinner is gonna light it up in Edmonton. At the very least he'll probably get to play in the postseason!

 

[HandshakeLine]

Is he?

He was sent down last year so that Jansen Harkins could not score for us.

Still laughing that Harkins went 41 games without a goal.

 

[Gurglesons]

Still laughing that Harkins went 41 games without a goal.

I can't wait for Ryan Shea and Emil Bemstrom to infuse hunger and youth into this line up.

I hope we can get DOC to perform though.

He's probably one of the few players on our roster we could get a 1st for if he really goes off.

 

[HandshakeLine]

On a boat fishing trying to get his girlfriend pregnant before his sperm count gets too low.

Well, there's his problem. Sperm goes in the vagina.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

hate to tell you but the private equity bros are coming for everything mate

I'm about to make a comfortable living as a guillotine salesman. Can't wait.

 

[Dennis Reynolds]

Still laughing that Harkins went 41 games without a goal.

*45

 

[ChaosAgent]

At this point? There is no alternative. They've made their bed and are now laying in it. There's no way out of it realistically, because Letang's deal is absolutely unmovable and Malkin's deal is probably not much easier to move. But at the time, they could have committed to a 2-3 year retool with the intent of trying to compete again in Crosby's last 3 or 4 years.

There's a lot of ifs here and it's hard to tell how exactly that could have been done. But I think there was a path in 2022 you could have gone down that didn't involve running it back with the core that could have yielded a contender right now. One big thing I wonder: could the Penguins have gotten Gaudreau to sign with them?

I mean even in 2022.

Malkin and Letang are still good-ish players at $6.1M AAV. Maybe in the alt reality we sign Trocheck, trade a pick for Petry and trade Dumoulin for futures and run with:

GCR
Zucker-Trocheck-Rakell

Matheson-Petry
Petts-Marino

As our top-9/top-4. But I don't see that being better than what we did really. The alternative question would be if getting rid of Malkin and Letang would have shaken the Powerplay up sufficiently. Even though the Sid/Geno/Letang dynamic is toxic on the PP, I think the coaching is just as toxic and so I don't have much faith that the Powerplay shake-up would have been better.

 

[HandshakeLine]

*45

lmao, sorry. I misspoke.