GDT: Free Agency 2019

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

How would you guys rank these guys:

Nash in 2012
Gaborik in 2010
Panarin in 2019?

Obviously Panarin is at the top of that list.

 

[Deleted member 23124]

Uncle Larry: Sounds like $12m per is magic # for Panarin. Trouba is going to come in at close to $8m. NYR have about $18.4 of space and don’t have Buchnevich, Lemieux, DeAngelo signed yet. Cap space presumes Smith in AHL.

$12M is McDavid money (or close to it)....Unless we're actually getting McDavid -- No thanks.

 

[will1066]

How would you guys rank these guys:

Nash in 2012
Gaborik in 2010
Panarin in 2019?

Panarin's a more complete player. Nash and Gaborik were more pure snipers.

 

[SA16]

How would you guys rank these guys:

Nash in 2012
Gaborik in 2010
Panarin in 2019?

Panarin then Nash then Gaborik. But I may have put Gaborik number 1 if not for his major injury history.

 

[NYR Viper]

How would you guys rank these guys:

Nash in 2012
Gaborik in 2010
Panarin in 2019?

Panarin

Nash

Gaborik

 

[Off Sides]

I disagree. Paying Panarin $12 million+ would just be old time Rangers bull****. Sticking to our price and not budging is most definitely not a Rangers thing. It is refreshing.

Giving out that kind of contract to a player who would be 34 when it ends is actually beyond what the Rangers of old have done, stick to their price or not.

 

[RangerLifer]

There was no leverage.

It gave other teams leverage to offer more, knowing the Rangers limits.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Do they? 27 forwards scored 80+ points this year. Seguin, Kessel, Wheeler, Panarin were the only ones who have ever been traded. Wheeler was not what he is now when he was traded, Kessel has defensive issues and has had issues with managements which leads you just Seguin (before he was established), and Panarin.

Well, hopefully, we just drafted two of them in the 1st round the past two drafts.

 

[SA16]

$12M is McDavid money (or close to it)....Unless we're actually getting McDavid -- No thanks.

12M is not McDavid as a UFA money. McDavid as a UFA money would be a max deal 20% of the cap.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife.

Which is also not irony.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Seems as though the NYR and Panarin are playing a game of chicken right now. The Rangers holding off offering more money and Panarin holding off committing to the NYI.

 

[Gardner McKay]

It gave other teams leverage to offer more, knowing the Rangers limits.

The teams knew anyway. Panarin's agent is going to tell them. If the Rangers offer was the top at the time, he would use that as leverage to gain a higher offer. Brooks writing about it has ZERO impact. ZERO.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Do they? 27 forwards scored 80+ points this year. Seguin, Kessel, Wheeler, Panarin were the only ones who have ever been traded. Wheeler was not what he is now when he was traded, Kessel has defensive issues and has had issues with managements which leads you just Seguin (before he was established), and Panarin.

Well, when you look at a micro-sample like that, sure it might fit your argument. I was more so referring to elite players. Kessel was literally just traded...again. EK. Stone. Hall. This will be Panarin's third team in four years.

 

[Leetch3]

being okay with 10.5 but not 12 just makes no sense to me. it’s an elite player. unless you really don’t want him in the first place (which is fine) that 1.5 mill is meaningless.

you have to draw the line somewhere...10.5 - 12 is just a meaningless 1.5 mil...then why not go to 13.5 mil since 12-13.5 is just another meaningless 1.5 mil?

 

[Ghost of jas]

Seems as though the NYR and Panarin are playing a game of chicken right now. The Rangers holding off offering more money and Panarin holding off committing to the NYI.

This is the likely scenario.

 

[haohmaru]

Panarin's a more complete player. Nash and Gaborik were more pure snipers.

Nash was one of the best two way wingers we’ve ever had.

 

[SA16]

Well, when you look at a micro-sample like that, sure it might fit your argument. I was more so referring to elite players. Kessel was literally just traded...again. EK. Stone. Hall. This will be Panarin's third team in four years.

I mean do the "elite players" score under 80 points? I can drop down to 70 it's more of the same. Guys like Lindhom/Teravainen were there and traded but well before they were that kind of player.

 

[will1066]

The Rangers were being the Rangers for most of the last 15 years. Besides riding Lundqvist, they never drafted very high, several first round busts, no cups, several bad buried signings?

If the barometer for anything good/bad the Rangers do for the rest of the 21st century is what happened from y2k to the 05 lockout, then yeah...they were way less stupid, but..

This is the first year they ever really tried to build.

But they also home-grew a lot of players during that time also.

 

[RangerLifer]

This is the likely scenario.

Plus, I heard he has a model girlfriend that works in NYC so is she willing to commute to Manhattan for her work? I don't think so.

 

[Lone Ranger]

I'm all for signing Panarin, but can you imagine how annoyed Zbad will be, if he ends up outscoring the Breadman when he's making half his salary?

 

[will1066]

Nash was one of the best two way wingers we’ve ever had.

He became that in the latter part of his career. I was referring more to Panarin's playmaking ability.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

But they also home-grew a lot of players during that time also.

I really don't think thats going to be any different this time around.

We have a deeper and just all around more talented crop now too.

The one plus to signing Panarin is that it more or less means that we're moving Kreider who should have pretty strong value. That deep and talented crop would get even better.

 

[Hire Sather]

I'm all for signing Panarin, but can you imagine how annoyed Zbad will be, if he ends up outscoring the Breadman when he's making half his salary?

Who cares

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I’m hesitant to go 12 million for Panarin but it can be done if they make other smart moves.

Kakko and Kravtsov will still have one year on their ELC when Staal, Shatty, Hank and Smith come off the books. And you assume the cap will continue to go up during that span as well, with Seattle coming in.

Obviously everything changes if someone like Chytil breaks out and expects a big contract in two years.

But the situation I think is extremely workable. There’s obvious potential for their to be cap hell, but Gorton is smart and I believe he could navigate it.

Also maybe they just buy him out via compliance buyout in two years ala Richards lol

 

[NernieBichols]

you have to draw the line somewhere...10.5 - 12 is just a meaningless 1.5 mil...then why not go to 13.5 mil since 12-13.5 is just another meaningless 1.5 mil?

bc that is 3million over your preferred offer and not 1.5 million.

Just come out and say and leave it as I don’t want to risk signing a guy to that big of a contract. Just say that and leave it as that instead of spending so much energy thinking of arguments and reasoning instead of just being blunt about it