Value of: Frank Vatrano at the deadline.

ZegrassyKnoll

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Vatrano is built for the playoffs and I have to imagine would fetch a high value.

That said, he plays the exact kind of game Verbeek wants us to play and seems to really like it here, so I'd be surprised if he was traded.
 

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Maybe or maybe not. It is a question of allocating resources including signing other potential free agents (i.e., a better player).

That being said, do you think Vatrano is looking for a 2 year contract? i doubt that as this is his final high dollar contract opportunity.
No I’d sign him for a longer contract though as he is a good player. As long as the money makes sense he’s very effective and can play anywhere in the lineup with the kids. He’s only 30. I’m not saying 8 years and a ton, but if it makes sense he should 100% be re-signed.
 

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Honestly I think for Anaheim right now it’s possible they could be a buyer of sorts - not because they’re contending this year but because they want to continue to take steps toward contending. Clearly, even with some glaring issues, this team is better than last year’s team and the year before that.

Trading Vatrano means it’s harder for them to continue to be competitive and for just another pick, unless it’s a first, I’m not sure that makes a ton of sense right now. They’re 9 points out of a playoff spot with a couple games in hand. They won’t make the playoffs but I think it’s far more important to have this young group striving for something and playing meaningful games than acquiring another pick for another asset
 

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My guess (based on previous history) is that Verbeek will offer Vatrano a 3-year contract in the $4 million range. If Vatrano wants a richer/longer deal then he will be traded.
 
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My guess (based on previous history) is that Verbeek will offer Vatrano a 3-year contract in the $4 million range. If Vatrano wants a richer/longer deal then he will be traded.
If they can get him for that then I will totally be happy with it.

But lets be honest, someone is going to offer him 5 mil in UFA, especially if he gets 30 goals again.
 

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If they can get him for that then I will totally be happy with it.

But lets be honest, someone is going to offer him 5 mil in UFA, especially if he gets 30 goals again.
Agree on both fronts. He'll probably get a 4th year too.
 

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I'm thinking that he's getting a 20M contract
You very well could be right. Hopefully not from the ducks. That money is better spent on a top 6 winger. And I say that as someone who really likes Vatrano's game and sandpaper. I'd pay that for Vatrano if we didn't already have $$ committed to Killorn and Strome.
 

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You very well could be right. Hopefully not from the ducks. That money is better spent on a top 6 winger. And I say that as someone who really likes Vatrano's game and sandpaper. I'd pay that for Vatrano if we didn't already have $$ committed to Killorn and Strome.

If we can keep to to four years, I'd prefer to sign him. I don't see the AAV getting out of the fives and that's really going to be good third liner type money as the cap rises. I don't think it's a huge gamble expecting Frank to be a good third liner in four years. But yeah once you get into longer term, I get queasy for sure.

The Ducks basically see all of their older veterans expire within the next two years. I realize some will stay and some will be replaced in the form of young players becoming veterans, but it's an interesting situation. Gibson (2),Vatrano (UFA), Strome (2), Killorn (2), Trouba (1), Gudas (1), Fabbri (UFA), Dumoulin (UFA) - literally every single established veteran has short term commitment remaining on their deal with the exception of arguably our best player in Troy Terry. It doesn't mean you start throwing term around with reckless abandon, but it definitely lessens the concern about giving a guy like Frank a fair market value contract IMO. Need to keep veteran stability, show that you are building a team/program/culture and not just a collection of young players.
 
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Why would they sign a 30 year old?
He's one of the few veteran contracts that's been good for us, we can't ice all 21 year olds plus Troy Terry. There has to be a point we stop selling everything off for picks, keep the good and usher out the bad.

Of our vets we brought in to insulate the kids, he's the one I'd want to resign. Killorn is showing his age, gudas has dropped off (I think the pressure of captain is too much, but that's a different conversation), strome has one good play for every five bad ones, and trouba is too early to say but so far I like what I see (cap doesn't matter to us at this point in time, so yeah his cap hit does not match his play, but right now it's more what he brings on the ice).

All that said, if he's a part of a trade for a better top 6 scoring winger, I'm all for it. We desperately need more scoring, so trading Frank for picks would only set us back imo.

Edit: Typo and clarity
 

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Why would they sign a 30 year old?
Because he’s more valuable to the team than a 2026 2nd round pick. I’m not saying they should re-sign him no matter what, but I’m not sure I see a team offering something that would offset the value lost from taking Vatrano off the roster. If someone is willing to pay a 1st or a pretty good young player/prospect, then I’d be much more open to moving him.
 

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