Value of: Fowler + Stoner to New Jersey

[Ducksgo*]

No one got time for that Lindholm crap IMO

 

[Halla]

ducks fans expect a top 6 LW, one with multiple years of control left apparently. 2 years of a guy (like JVR) isnt enough for 2 years of Fowler

 

[Finnish your Czech]

The question is if Lindy will even sign here. If he doesn't want to it's all moot. Fowler is signed and we have Theo who can obviously take Lindholms place. I'm expecting this week Lindholm will be treated like Bobby Ryan scenario. So the next trade threads should be Lindholm to whomever

Is this sarcasm

Nothing indicates that Lindholm wants out, and frankly it's more likely that Anaheim's being a bit cheap.

 

[Ducksgo*]

Is this sarcasm

Nothing indicates that Lindholm wants out, and frankly it's more likely that Anaheim's being a bit cheap.

I'm giving an honest opinion. Is this a Bobby Ryan scenario all over again? Regardless of the contracts? We've already been there and done that. And maybe it's because I'm a bit upset because he and Rakell haven't signed already, but at the same time we have to look at other alternatives

 

[dracom]

ducks fans expect a top 6 LW, one with multiple years of control left apparently. 2 years of a guy (like JVR) isnt enough for 2 years of Fowler

What are you talking about? I think most Ducks fans would be ok with getting JVR, though JVR costs a bit more than Fowler which I think could be resolved (not sure how exactly though). Love that you had to come into a thread that didn't involve the Leafs at all just to take a dig at Ducks fans though.

 

[heilongjetsfan]

The same Perrault the ducks GM didn't want any part of so he let him test free agency as a RFA?

Is that how that went? I'll be honest, he wasn't really on my radar before he became a Jet.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

He was not pretty terrible last season. Stop looking at advanced stats to judge a player they don't give you the whole picture.

Quit using your eyes, they have bias.

 

[dracom]

Quit using your eyes, they have bias.

So no fan of a team can talk about their player because their eyes have bias. Right...

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

So no fan of a team can talk about their player because their eyes have bias. Right...

No, taken out of the book of Collision Avoidance Rules, "they shall use all available means appropriate" which includes eyes and advanced statistics. It's a similar situation to Merrill who passed the eye test two years ago but underperformed miserably by advanced statistics. Last year he failed the eye test as well.

 

[dracom]

No, taken out of the book of Collision Avoidance Rules, "they shall use all available means appropriate" which includes eyes and advanced statistics. It's a similar situation to Merrill who passed the eye test two years ago but underperformed miserably by advanced statistics. Last year he failed the eye test as well.

Ok, but you also need to use context with those stats as well. Fowler is a #2 defensemen asked to a #1's job, while carrying a #6th defensemen, in a shutdown role which isn't his strongest aspect. He's just not going to have good fancy stats in that role, but he still passes the eye test and the on ice test (Ducks have been one of the top teams with him being the most used defensemen).

 

[Ducksgo*]

What are you talking about? I think most Ducks fans would be ok with getting JVR, though JVR costs a bit more than Fowler which I think could be resolved (not sure how exactly though). Love that you had to come into a thread that didn't involve the Leafs at all just to take a dig at Ducks fans though.

We need retention though Dracom. That's why we went to Detroit for Tatar

 

[Scorcho]

John Quenneville, 2018 1st For Fowler.

 

[Smitty426]

John Quenneville, 2018 1st For Fowler.

No thx you can keep him

 

[Ducks in a row]

Quit using your eyes, they have bias.

Stop using advanced stats only they don't show the entire picture. Teams have scouts because they know you need to use your eyes to see what someone is good at and not so good at and that will never change.

John Quenneville, 2018 1st For Fowler.

If we are trading Fowler we need someone who helps us win now and I don't see that here so...