Too small sample size these players arent top tier hockey players. Well goalie you can take whoevers hot but Strome's just average nhl player in larger scale.
What? You mentioned he was one of the top even strength performers. I checked the numbers. He was behind a lot of guys who didn't even make my team. What's what I was showing you. Also, I didn't factor in age at all because the tournament is later this year, not some time in the distant future. If we were projecting Olympics rosters, I might care about age. And no, he doesn't need to put up McDavid numbers - he would need to put up numbers that put him among the best 13 or so Canadian forwards, and every scoring stat (and others as well) puts him in the 20-30 range - still a very good player, but not good enough to be on the national team.
Yeah, and that doesn't make it less pathetic that Canada may end up hopeful to be selected by Joey Daccord at the best on best level.
I think you need some perspective. Go look at Team Sweden and how their goalies have been playing. If Canada has Talbot, Daccord, and Thompson, they'll have three guys who have all been playing well this year - that's better than we could have hoped for given how dismal Canada's goaltending options have been for a while. Remember when Skinner was likely a consensus choice?
My perspective is that Canada has never gone into anything like a best on best type event and been in a situation where the team would consider hoping that a Joey Daccord level player, who is not even from Canada, would choose Canada. Pathetic is the only word for it. I don't particularly care how Sweden's goaltenders have been playing.
Call it pathetic if you want, but not putting Daccord on the team doesn't make the choices any less pathetic. It's a best on best tournament - you put the guys on the team who give you the best chance to win. The reason I mentioned Sweden, is all this moaning about team Canada's goalie choices starts to look pretty weird when you see that Sweden (known for developing top goalies, has even worse choices for their team. All their supposed best goalies are playing poorly, and they don't have the top end forward talent Canada does to balance it out.
I agree Canada's overall development of goalies has become pathetic. But man, I don't envy your priorities if you rank sending a message to Hockey Canada as being more important than winning the tournament.
Point taken and of course you always want to win but it's because of my priorities and the health of our program going forward that sending a message to TC, as painful as it will be, is probably needed.
Canada shouldn't opt for Daccord because he isn't from Canada, but that isn't the pathetic thing I was talking about. It is that Canada is reduced to hoping for Joey Daccord. Not Vezina, Benedict, Gardiner, Durnan, broda, Sawchuk, Hall, Plante, Parent, Dryden, Fuhr, Roy, Belfour, Brodeur, Luongo, or Price....... Daccord. There has never really been a time in hockey history when Canada couldn't select a HHOF goaltender, even if he wasn't the starter, other than now.
Yeah I am not interested in a bandaid, not that I think that Daccord makes a difference either way. There likely would have been a wake up call if the NHL had maintained best on best hockey from 2018-2022, but here we are. Something needs to be done about goaltending (which has been true for a long time) and I think it will be more obvious to people when Canada starts naming goaltenders for this and the Olympics.
I mean, he is Canadian (has citizenship through his father). He's also American (born and trained) and Swiss (through his mother). To me, it may be prudent for Hockey Canada to consider him. Is he willing though? Not only for this unbinding tournament but international competition moving forward? All signs indicate he was leaning toward Switzerland. He's not a top three for the U.S. at this point (even though Swayman hasn't been good this year and Demko is injured).
His father in from Montreal and he has Canadian citizenship. Who are you to declare that he's not Canadian?
He wasn't born or raised in Canada. From a hockey context, no he's not Canadian.
Wait, let me try to understand this. So because Canada doesn't have great goalies to choose from, they should avoid putting someone on the team who is good enough to make it because he's not Canadian enough (whatever that means) and to make it more obvious that Canada doesn't have great goalies? By this logic, shouldn't Canada name their three goalies Scott Wedgewood, James Reimer, and Tristan Jarry? I mean, that would sent the message you want, right? Heck, why not just name the whole team AHL-level guys and lose on purpose just to tell Hockey Canada that there is a problem?
Again, he father is from Canada. Have you never met someone born in country A, whose parents are from county B, who is feels like someone from both A and B? I've had lots of friend like that. They love the country they were born in, but are proud of where their parents are from. How do you know he's not like that? And if you want to be technical, he is a citizen of Canada, Switzerland and the United States. So he's all three - he could choose to play for whichever of the three countries he wants, and since there are at least three guys ahead of him on the US roster, why wouldn't he want to play for Canada? There's lots of history in hockey of guys choose teams to play for that aren't where they were born.
You're definitely missing at least Thomas and Konecny. Someone is also going to have to point out to me which stats they're using to put Lafreniere not only on the team, but in the top six. Also, switch Reinhart and MacKinnon - they're on the wrong wing.
I don't know what you can't grasp. It is pathetic that Canada does not have even one elite goaltender to select. It is a random quirk that Daccord, born and raised in the United States, happens to have Canadian citizenship through a parent and Canada should pick a goaltender that Canada actually produced rather than hoping to be selected by the likes of Joey Daccord. Canada's goaltending has been a problem for a long time and while the interest in Daccord indicates how significant it is, selecting him or not won't make it less obvious.
