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Post-Game Talk: Four Nations, Three Losses, Two Forwards, One Defenseman, Zero Goalies

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McDrai said:
I will say what nobody wants to hear…

We look like Chicago and Pittsburgh after they had won their cups, except we haven’t won a damn thing. The team as a whole is too old now and the cupboards are bare thanks to incompetent management. It’s too late to rebuild things at this point. We will not win a Cup in the McDrai era.
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Eh, maybe. More likely some actual coaching to utilize players properly (exhibit A: J. Skinner) and a shakeup in goal, the team will look like they were at their peak of the season.
 
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Jimmi McJenkins said:
Honestly, this is probably a standard going forward, looks like pre-break was smoke, mirrors and Leon, oh well, at least they extended Draisaitl. Sucks that this is what we get for the rest of the year, but that's just how it goes.
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Some people sure love their drama. No, playing horribly for 2-3 games around a longer break is little more than a bad stretch. Those tend to happen over a 82 game season. As do weaker runs where you still win.

There really is no reason to assume that these last two games are somehow representative of how the Oilers really are, while the division leading team after 54 games somehow isn't.

They might be in a bad stretch right now, and it is very much possible that it will continue for another few games, but you can also count on them doing the very opposite soon enough. And the play around game 55 isn't any more likely to be the shape they will show in the playoffs than any other random mark earlier in the season.
 
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Sanderson said:
Some people sure love their drama. No, playing horribly for 2-3 games around a longer break is little more than a bad stretch. Those tend to happen over a 82 game season. As do weaker runs where you still win.

There really is no reason to assume that these last two games are somehow representative of how the Oilers really are, while the division leading team after 54 games somehow isn't.

They might be in a bad stretch right now, and it is very much possible that it will continue for another few games, but you can also count on them doing the very opposite soon enough. And the play around game 55 isn't any more likely to be the shape they will show in the playoffs than any other random mark earlier in the season.
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Rational, emotionally stable posting?

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Edmonton Sports Talk is hilarious today.

Apparently it's blasphemy to say we need a better goalie in net because Skinner was good last year but its all right to say Bouchard sucks... even though he was amazing last year
 
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Bryanbryoil said:
Something isn't right for sure.
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Did anyone see the dressing room closeups before the 4Nation Final? When they focussed on CmcD, I was surprised at the guys appearance. He has lost most of the upper bulk he once had (and he didn’t have much). His upper arms aren’t even muscular in the “fit” sense. They were skinny, lacking in any definition. Even my wife commented that he looked far too skinny (not lean) in an unhealthy way. He’s not a guy that needs bulk, his game and speed depend on being lean and sinewy almost, but it’s very pronounced this year.
 
Shanahanigans said:
Knob is usually pretty conservative with his words, so him saying “we looked like a slow team” post game today is a pretty clear message to management I think.
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Oh goodie time to waste a ton of assets and whatever cap is left to try and find a worse version of Holloway and Foegele.
 
Embarrassment Weekend.

Slow and completely discombobulated yesterday against a fast Flyers team. Zero defensive structure makes way to getting choked out by a big, heavy Capitals team. A couple of super elite forwards and a flotilla of third and fourth small, finesse types. D corp isn't good enough, deep or multi-faceted enough and last line of defense is marginal goaltending. There's lots of work required in each area of this hockey team. Alot of work.
 
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KCC said:
Glad this is happening. Force management to make goaltending changes etc. skinner is trash. Pikard had been good this year but was shelled today.
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I get a bit worried that we are creating so many things to point at as issues, we just end up trying to fix the easiest one to trade for. Starting goaltending fixes at the deadline are as hard as it gets. Getting a solid top 4 D really hard too, especially if we want a RHD for Nurse. Toss assets to flip around some wingers and call it a deadline would be the easy thing to make fans thing you did something.
 
bellagiobob said:
I’ll try to be as positive as I can here. Hopefully this is just one of those stretches that all teams go thru and we fight our way thru it. Cause the alternative is frightening.
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They will bounce back but this display doesn't look like a team that says "this is it and we are not letting it get away from us this season."

Behind Enemy Lines said:
Embarrassment Weekend.

Slow and completely discombobulated yesterday against a fast Flyers team. Zero defensive structure makes way to getting choked out by a big, heavy Capitals team. A couple of super elite forwards and a flotilla of third and fourth small, finesse types. D corp isn't good enough, deep or multi-faceted enough and last line of defense is marginal goaltending. There's lots of work required in each area of this hockey team. Alot of work.
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Some of the boys are looking their age.
 
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MoontoScott said:
He was much better than the guys who have followed. He was (in my opinion) simply a better athlete.
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That's the exact kind of goalie we need on this team. Someone with some athleticism that never quits on plays. And a guy that is able to build up and maintain his own confidence no matter what is going on.

The confidence piece of huge, we've broken the brains of so many goalies here. Guys that have painfully fragile confidence. We seriously need to put goalies personality very high on our list of requirements. Campbell was probably the worst possible goalie for us to target, a guy that already had huge mental health red flags before he even got here.
 
Sanderson said:
Some people sure love their drama. No, playing horribly for 2-3 games around a longer break is little more than a bad stretch. Those tend to happen over a 82 game season. As do weaker runs where you still win.

There really is no reason to assume that these last two games are somehow representative of how the Oilers really are, while the division leading team after 54 games somehow isn't.

They might be in a bad stretch right now, and it is very much possible that it will continue for another few games, but you can also count on them doing the very opposite soon enough. And the play around game 55 isn't any more likely to be the shape they will show in the playoffs than any other random mark earlier in the season.
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Sure bud, you have a significant chunk of the board singing the praises of misunderstood hero Jack Campbell, so group think is the team is bad and the season is over, so lean in, it saves time.
 
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McTonyBrar said:
Edmonton Sports Talk is hilarious today.

Apparently it's blasphemy to say we need a better goalie in net because Skinner was good last year but its all right to say Bouchard sucks... even thought he was amazing last year
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The Edmonton Media likes Stu--not very objective I'm afraid.
 
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oobga said:
That's the exact kind of goalie we need on this team. Someone with some athleticism that never quits on plays. And a guy that is able to build up and maintain his own confidence no matter what is going on.

The confidence piece of huge, we've broken the brains of so many goalies here. Guys that have painfully fragile confidence. We seriously need to put goalies personality very high on our list of requirements. Campbell was probably the worst possible goalie for us to target, a guy that already had huge mental health red flags before he even got here.
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Goalies tend to be nervous, nebulous types and it takes a good coach to handle them. Fuhr was a good example.
 
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