Four Nations Face-Off Schedule

[Stylizer1]

Well there is no 4 on 4 OT anymore. 3 on 3 while better than a shootout is also pretty gimmicky. I’d rather award the xtra point for a regulation win and encourage that instead of sitting back and waiting for everything to go to overtime

that's what I meant.

they would never go to 3 points because the bad teams would be so far behind 2 months in. The reason they wait to go to overtime is because then they are both guaranteed a point. Get rid of that and penalize both teams for getting to the shootout with only 1 point. Teams wont want to risk going to 3 on 3 then.

the only obvious team missing is Russia for obvious reasons.

I personally don't mind that there aren't weaker teams at the tournament because it makes for a lot more boring and one sided games.

I feel like people would complain about blow outs if you had weaker teams

Its a dumb reason and politics should never be involved with sports in this manner.

 

[Beech]

1945. Canada 's population is 12,000,000 people.. Predominantly immigrants from Endo-Europe (Great Britain, France and many of the Northern, Nordic and eastern European nations)

immigration to Canada since 1945 ~ 175,000 persons per year (average, from 25,000 to 500,000). Predominantly from 3rd world nations.

175,000 people a year at 1% increase means that today, we have in the neighborhood of 22,000,000 who can claim to an ancestry that was from outside of Canada at some time during the last 80 years.

Canada is today 41,000,000 and change... less the 22,000,000, means ~ 19,000,000 are the pre WWII population.

effectively the pre WWII population has grown at 0.5 % ...

hockey is expensive and far more in the fabric of the pre WWII/Indo-European Canadian, than those from 3rd world nations. And so the financial impact, plus the "social relevance" has meant that the game is slowing, not growing.

You may have noticed the names of the team Canada players... The skin colour..their hair colour..
You may have noticed that no French Canadian (Marchand, aside).
You may have noticed no black, Asian, South Asian, Arab, Latino.

Anytime you want, drop by the Frescho in Barrehaven. Due east of Vimy Bridge. Feel free to stay a while and do a survey of who the customers are. Now walk some 2 km east to River Side South. Hang a right towards the new section. Knock on doors and see who answers. No, you are not in New Delhi or Beijing.


19,000,000 pre WWII, 22,000,000 since WWII.... At some point Canada and hockey have to come to grips with it and begin to adjust, or the game will fade away.

Sweden is 11,000,000 today. It was 6,800,000 in 1945. Since 1945, ~6,000,000 in immigrant population. Effectively the native Swedish population has shrunk by 1,800,000

Finland was 3,800,000 after WWII. It lets in a conservative 10,000 k a year. Resulting in ~ 1,700,000. It is today ~5,700,000. And has increased a whopping 200,000 in 80 years. ~ 0.06% per year.


Have you figured out why the NCAA is allowing CHL players???? They need them.. The numbers are shrinking.

Have you figured out why Drew Doughty and Marchand and other 30 plus's are on the team? No 20 something is pushing them out.

The State of hockey...and Hockey Canada has its head in the sand.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

1945. Canada 's population is 12,000,000 people.. Predominantly immigrants from Endo-Europe (Great Britain, France and many of the Northern, Nordic and eastern European nations)

immigration to Canada since 1945 ~ 175,000 persons per year (average, from 25,000 to 500,000). Predominantly from 3rd world nations.

175,000 people a year at 1% increase means that today, we have in the neighborhood of 22,000,000 who can claim to an ancestry that was from outside of Canada at some time during the last 80 years.

Canada is today 41,000,000 and change... less the 22,000,000, means ~ 19,000,000 are the pre WWII population.

effectively the pre WWII population has grown at 0.5 % ...

hockey is expensive and far more in the fabric of the pre WWII/Indo-European Canadian, than those from 3rd world nations. And so the financial impact, plus the "social relevance" has meant that the game is slowing, not growing.

You may have noticed the names of the team Canada players... The skin colour..their hair colour..
You may have noticed that no French Canadian (Marchand, aside).
You may have noticed no black, Asian, South Asian, Arab, Latino.

Anytime you want, drop by the Frescho in Barrehaven. Due east of Vimy Bridge. Feel free to stay a while and do a survey of who the customers are. Now walk some 2 km east to River Side South. Hang a right towards the new section. Knock on doors and see who answers. No, you are not in New Delhi or Beijing.


19,000,000 pre WWII, 22,000,000 since WWII.... At some point Canada and hockey have to come to grips with it and begin to adjust, or the game will fade away.

Sweden is 11,000,000 today. It was 6,800,000 in 1945. Since 1945, ~6,000,000 in immigrant population. Effectively the native Swedish population has shrunk by 1,800,000

Finland was 3,800,000 after WWII. It lets in a conservative 10,000 k a year. Resulting in ~ 1,700,000. It is today ~5,700,000. And has increased a whopping 200,000 in 80 years. ~ 0.06% per year.


Have you figured out why the NCAA is allowing CHL players???? They need them.. The numbers are shrinking.

Have you figured out why Drew Doughty and Marchand and other 30 plus's are on the team? No 20 something is pushing them out.

The State of hockey...and Hockey Canada has its head in the sand.

Naw there were better players available than Doughty or Marchand. Team Canada just didn't pick them.

 

[Stylizer1]

1945. Canada 's population is 12,000,000 people.. Predominantly immigrants from Endo-Europe (Great Britain, France and many of the Northern, Nordic and eastern European nations)

immigration to Canada since 1945 ~ 175,000 persons per year (average, from 25,000 to 500,000). Predominantly from 3rd world nations.

175,000 people a year at 1% increase means that today, we have in the neighborhood of 22,000,000 who can claim to an ancestry that was from outside of Canada at some time during the last 80 years.

Canada is today 41,000,000 and change... less the 22,000,000, means ~ 19,000,000 are the pre WWII population.

effectively the pre WWII population has grown at 0.5 % ...

hockey is expensive and far more in the fabric of the pre WWII/Indo-European Canadian, than those from 3rd world nations. And so the financial impact, plus the "social relevance" has meant that the game is slowing, not growing.

You may have noticed the names of the team Canada players... The skin colour..their hair colour..
You may have noticed that no French Canadian (Marchand, aside).
You may have noticed no black, Asian, South Asian, Arab, Latino.

Anytime you want, drop by the Frescho in Barrehaven. Due east of Vimy Bridge. Feel free to stay a while and do a survey of who the customers are. Now walk some 2 km east to River Side South. Hang a right towards the new section. Knock on doors and see who answers. No, you are not in New Delhi or Beijing.


19,000,000 pre WWII, 22,000,000 since WWII.... At some point Canada and hockey have to come to grips with it and begin to adjust, or the game will fade away.

Sweden is 11,000,000 today. It was 6,800,000 in 1945. Since 1945, ~6,000,000 in immigrant population. Effectively the native Swedish population has shrunk by 1,800,000

Finland was 3,800,000 after WWII. It lets in a conservative 10,000 k a year. Resulting in ~ 1,700,000. It is today ~5,700,000. And has increased a whopping 200,000 in 80 years. ~ 0.06% per year.


Have you figured out why the NCAA is allowing CHL players???? They need them.. The numbers are shrinking.

Have you figured out why Drew Doughty and Marchand and other 30 plus's are on the team? No 20 something is pushing them out.

The State of hockey...and Hockey Canada has its head in the sand.

When was the last time you were at a kids hockey tournament? It is my generation who have the kids of non-white backgrounds which is creating the diversity in hockey. Look At basketball and what the Raptors have ushered in. Again, It's my generation that are producing tomorrows athletes. I can only imagine what the kids hockey leagues look like in a city like Brampton where it is mainly south Asian. Canada cannot tap into new markets liekethe US has been doing over the last 30 years. That's the reason they are getting better.

Go to any discount grocery store in the city and you will find those same people. You know why? because those are the places that sell the food people want like Ox tail, turmeric root, and a likkle bottle a Ting.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

that's what I meant.

they would never go to 3 points because the bad teams would be so far behind 2 months in. The reason they wait to go to overtime is because then they are both guaranteed a point. Get rid of that and penalize both teams for getting to the shootout with only 1 point. Teams wont want to risk going to 3 on 3 then.


Its a dumb reason and politics should never be involved with sports in this manner.

I think hypocrisy is the main issue. If you're going to ban Russia for being an "evil Imperialist nation", then why in the world is the USA allowed to attend? Heck even Canada isn't innocent there. Historically, Sweden and Finland aren't so innocent either.

When was the last time you were at a kids hockey tournament? It is my generation who have the kids of non-white backgrounds which is creating the diversity in hockey. Look At basketball and what the Raptors have ushered in. Again, It's my generation that are producing tomorrows athletes. I can only imagine what the kids hockey leagues look like in a city like Brampton where it is mainly south Asian. Canada cannot tap into new markets liekethe US has been doing over the last 30 years. That's the reason they are getting better.

Go to any discount grocery store in the city and you will find those same people. You know why? because those are the places that sell the food people want like Ox tail, turmeric root, and a likkle bottle a Ting.

Hockey also struggles to reach traditional markets in Europe. Denmark and Norway are doing better than before but are nowhere near actual hockey nations, for example.

 

[Beech]

When was the last time you were at a kids hockey tournament? It is my generation who have the kids of non-white backgrounds which is creating the diversity in hockey. Look At basketball and what the Raptors have ushered in. Again, It's my generation that are producing tomorrows athletes. I can only imagine what the kids hockey leagues look like in a city like Brampton where it is mainly south Asian. Canada cannot tap into new markets liekethe US has been doing over the last 30 years. That's the reason they are getting better.

Go to any discount grocery store in the city and you will find those same people. You know why? because those are the places that sell the food people want like Ox tail, turmeric root, and a likkle bottle a Ting.

Then you better get going.

Willie O'ree made his debut 70 years ago.

Let me know when the NHL is approximately 10% Muslim/Arab, 10% Asian, 10% Indian/Pakistani, 10% Latino (US influence predominantly), 10% other. When I see team Canada and others, I see a smatter.. 70 years later!!!!

I see team Canada in soccer, being ethnic/immigrant laden and doing well. A huge surge over times past.
I see team Canada basketball, being ethnic/immigrant laden and doing well. A huge surge over times past.

Even Black players in the NHL recently have had a strong component of mixed race. Hello Quinton Byfield and Lucas Raymond, and Tage Iginla and others.

Large swats of Canada's population has near zero presence in hockey.

An all Muslim/Arab team would be 6-6 players
An all Asian team 6-7
A Philippino team 3-4
A Pakistani/Indian team 3-4
A latino team 3-4

correct for bi-racial, you are down to half that.

800 players in the league. 800 in the AHL.

What is even more disappointing. See junior hockey.

70 years after O'ree.

Over time, ethnics and immigrants will dominate and shift their loyalty to other sports.

North side of River Side south. Two outdoor skating areas. Boarded rink and open skating area. Maintained by Indo-Europeans. Used by Indo-Europeans.

South Side of RSS, predominantly Chinese and Indians/ethnics....zero rinks.

I hope that the alarms go off at Hockey Canada and the NHL.

 

[Stylizer1]

You answered your own questions. All of the ethnicities you talk about come from countries that don't experience winter and that is why you don't see more of those groups in Hockey yet. When you look at Basketball Canada mens team it's either white or black, no Asians, No Arabs, no Latinos, just white and black. It's the Children and grandchildren of those immigrants from the 70's and 80's who came from the Caribbean and Africa and are diversifying basketball now. Hockey is a way bigger sport in Canada and although there is a financial element to it, its not a factor in established communities across the country. Don't know if you know this but there are almost twice the number of kids who play soccer in Canada than play hockey. There is a reason why is the most popular sport on the planet.

You live in such a small bubble and actually think "you're an expert". You base everything on your perception because of your neighbourhood then extrapolate to infinity to give a view of Canada.

Stop talking about race because we all know your point of view on them from your past delusional epiphanies.