Post-Game Talk: Four Nations | Canada def. USA - 3-2 (Our Game. Our Country.)

[xtr3m]

Big if true.

 

[Hit the post]

Did Gretzky really come out of the USA dressing room?

From a poster in Calgary:

 

[arttk]

I really am not sure, Scooter. I think in that situation, the Canadian players would have had to touched it, but they all wisely did not.

I'm sure 87 was screaming on the bench not to touch it. That was the biggest difference between Canada and US. Canada knew what they could get away with. The US still doesn't understand the game as well as Canadians, that's my take but I haven't read one rulesbook or instructional manual in my life.

yeah someone needs to touch the puck
not sure what happens if the american player hits the extra canadian player with a puck though, i guess that will depend if it affects the play.

 

[Hodgy]

Marner was excellent in the biggest game of his pro career.

I agree with your lesson. Let a skilled guy play his game and play him with players that maximize it.

Marner made two excellent passes, and without those two plays, Canada doesn't win this game. And at the end of the day, that's what is important.

But I actually don't think, other than those passes, that he was very good. Soft on the puck multiple times and wasn't managing the puck well in the offensive zone.

I don't really know if I'd want to give him an 8 year contract notwithstanding his excellent regular season production. And I recognize that these type of players don't hit the market often.

 

[bossram]

Marner made two excellent passes, and without those two plays, Canada doesn't win this game. And at the end of the day, that's what is important.

But I actually don't think, other than those passes, that he was very good. Soft on the puck multiple times and wasn't managing the puck well in the offensive zone.

I don't really know if I'd want to give him an 8 year contract notwithstanding his excellent regular season production. And I recognize that these type of players don't hit the market often.

He made a lot of high skill plays throughout the game. And yes, you want a star player to be able to break the game open with a high skill play, even if they're otherwise not playing well. That's the edge you're paying for. Your criticism of Marner applies even more to McDavid's game last night.

Any team with the cap space absolutely should be chasing Marner.

 

[Hodgy]

He made a lot of high skill plays throughout the game. And yes, you want a star player to be able to break the game open with a high skill play, even if they're otherwise not playing well. That's the edge you're paying for. Your criticism of Marner applies even more to McDavid's game last night.

Any team with the cap space absolutely should be chasing Marner.

I think McDavid had a bad game as well other than his goal. He didn't seem to be skating well like his normal self, and I wonder if he had the flu which is running through the team.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

I think McDavid had a bad game as well other than his goal. He didn't seem to be skating well like his normal self, and I wonder if he had the flu which is running through the team.

I was literally saying to my nephew that he was having a rough game, and I just kept waiting for him to step up and grab the game by the balls and have his own golden moment.

And then he did. And as time goes on, not many will remember the rough game he had up to that moment.

 

[VanJack]

I think fans of Calgary and Buffalo might have some mixed feelings about this game.

Sam Bennett and of course Matthew Tkachuk were Flames draftees, and started their careers in Cowtown. Meantime Jack Eichel and Sam Reinhardt were originally high Sabres draftees, but couldn't survive in upstate New York.

Sad fact--that sometimes even when your team drafts the right players, in the end it still doesn't work out.

 

[valkynax]

I was literally saying to my nephew that he was having a rough game, and I just kept waiting for him to step up and grab the game by the balls and have his own golden moment.

And then he did. And as time goes on, not many will remember the rough game he had up to that moment.

If McDavid had a quiet game and buried the US, like he did, he is the hero.

If he had a 4 pts game but missed the puck that led to an OT loss (Stefan style), he will be raked across the burning coal.

To me it's always been more about...the moment, and seizing it without hesitation.

The 4 nations tourney turned out well, to my surprise, and it's gotta be at least partly due to the intolerable arrogance and insufferable trampling of our country's sovereignty, by the ASSHOLES of the south. Though I also have to say that I am very thankful for their monumental stupidity - this comical and childish charade has galvanized and united this country in ways I have not seen for the two and half decades I've lived here. And it even made Justin Trudeau sound badass for once lol. This whole thing also woke up something deep inside me that I almost forgot I had - a near fatalistic fanatic patriotism that I used to have for China, and now shared between my old homeland and new one.

Murikkkans, if you want to take our country, I'll wipe my ass with your f***ing piece of shit flag and send it back with the brown stain on it, then dye the soil crimson red with my blood on the frontlines.

EDIT: Once again if this post created extra work for the mods I apologize in advance, it's just that I can no longer keep some things under my chest anymore.

 

[StreetHawk]

I think fans of Calgary and Buffalo might have some mixed feelings about this game.

Sam Bennett and of course Matthew Tkachuk were Flames draftees, and started their careers in Cowtown. Meantime Jack Eichel and Sam Reinhardt were originally high Sabres draftees, but couldn't survive in upstate New York.

Sad fact--that sometimes even when your team drafts the right players, in the end it still doesn't work out.

Bennett, the production just was t there in Calgary. Can blame the coach (Sutter?) but ultimately it just didn’t work out.

The other 3, Matt Tkachuk, big mistake by Calgary not getting him signed for max term like Ott did with Brady. Some guys, especially Americans on CAD clubs, if they are willing you need to max term them and do whatever it takes to make it happen. Be it eat or give up assets to move a contract.

Buffalo, more just the inability to build a team.

Odd that 3 of those guys landed in FLA together.

 

[Quinning]

I felt like Nostradamus after that one.

 

[Coffee]

Brandon Hagel with a shoutout to @MS !!!

 

[F A N]

No way the Sens take EP for Brady, and I say this as an EP booster. Brady is a power forward and game breaker on his own, EP needs a supporting class to shine. It's like the difference between a lifted 4x4 and a Bughatti. Both are great vehicles and excel in situations which they are designed for, but only one is getting you up a mountain.

I don't agree. Petey plays C and prime Petey is a game breaker on his own. I would absolutely take a prime Petey over Brady. But we don't have a prime Petey.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

@Mr. Canucklehead

f*** buddy where does the time go. You don’t look like Rick Nash so much anymore. Let him know if he ever wants to skip work to play shinny with a bunch of strangers from the internet, I did

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

@Mr. Canucklehead

f*** buddy where does the time go. You don’t look like Rick Nash so much anymore. Let him know if he ever wants to skip work to play shinny with a bunch of strangers from the internet, I did

Age comes for us all.

We’ll have to try and organize a shinny game again some day now that we’re all older and slower.

 

[rockymtnoyster]

 

[racerjoe]

Age comes for us all.

We’ll have to try and organize a shinny game again some day now that we’re all older and slower.

I am actually slower and older...

But seriously would love to get those games again was fun to meet everyone.

 

[andora]

Ffs pettersson is just... i dont know what to say

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

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Brandon Hagel with a shoutout to @MS !!!

Who the hell is "KK"? It's driving me crazy.

 

[nucks88]

Quinn Hughes was the single biggest missing piece for any team in this tournament. But Canada’s defense continuing to perform as well as it did despite losing Pietrangelo, Theodore and Morrisey for the final game was really impressive.

Harley was a nice surprise……guy was not even close to my radar!

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

The best part about the win, for me, had nothing to do with politics, nationalism, patriotism, or anything else. It was sharing the game and win with my 5 year old son. He's got very deep into watching and playing hockey with me. We were shooting a ball around while watching the 1st period. We missed the first 5 minutes of the 3rd while I read him books but then we snuggled in my bed and watched the rest of the game on my phone. He's too young to understand anything other than who we are cheering for and he wants to spend the time with me.

Sharing that moment with him was special. Nothing else matters.

my kiddo was five during the 2020 playoff run. cried himself to sleep at the end of game seven against vegas.

man we needed those games that summer. just like we needed that game last night.

I think McDavid had a bad game as well other than his goal. He didn't seem to be skating well like his normal self, and I wonder if he had the flu which is running through the team.

mcdavid himself said in his postgame availability that he was bad for the rest of the game.

I was literally saying to my nephew that he was having a rough game, and I just kept waiting for him to step up and grab the game by the balls and have his own golden moment.

And then he did. And as time goes on, not many will remember the rough game he had up to that moment.

maybe i’m just stubborn but i still remember that crosby didn’t do shit until the golden goal

 

[arttk]

Marner made two excellent passes, and without those two plays, Canada doesn't win this game. And at the end of the day, that's what is important.

But I actually don't think, other than those passes, that he was very good. Soft on the puck multiple times and wasn't managing the puck well in the offensive zone.

I don't really know if I'd want to give him an 8 year contract notwithstanding his excellent regular season production. And I recognize that these type of players don't hit the market often.

Well unless we trade for him, he won’t be getting a 8 year contract from us

Harley was a nice surprise……guy was not even close to my radar!

I thought Harley was kinda crap

 

[Lindgren]

Who the hell is "KK"? It's driving me crazy.

The only one I know of is Kirill Kudryavtsev.

 

[I am toxic]

The best part about the win, for me, had nothing to do with politics, nationalism, patriotism, or anything else. It was sharing the game and win with my 5 year old son. He's got very deep into watching and playing hockey with me. We were shooting a ball around while watching the 1st period. We missed the first 5 minutes of the 3rd while I read him books but then we snuggled in my bed and watched the rest of the game on my phone. He's too young to understand anything other than who we are cheering for and he wants to spend the time with me.

Sharing that moment with him was special. Nothing else matters.

My teenager was too young to appreciate 2010, and 2014 was a cakewalk


We couldn't watch it together, he was in whistler to go skiing, and I missed the entire game for my daughter's dance performance

My son texted me last night "that was the best hockey game i've ever seen"

the players took this tournament seriously, and it made for historic hockey that will be spoken about along with '72, the Canadiennes v Soviets, Miracle on ice, '87 CC, '96 loss to Hull, '98 to Hasek, 2002 and 2010

 

[me2]

Those Trudeau tweets were from the top rope. Absolute chefs kiss.

He's also actually standing up for Canada. The other party leaders have been strangely silent on a topic as impactful as Canada's economic welfare and...y'know, sovereignty.

Our sovereignty isn't under threat, the republicans are actually terrified of Canadians. The USA would have to take 10 provinces and 3 territoriesand make them states, that is 26 more senators, the vast majority anti-maga. Canada would control the US not the other way around. Trudeau should take up the offer just to watch Trump backpedal.


All this is just noise to distract from the real shenanigans goings on. It made the 4 nations more interesting at least.